41 replies to this topic

[MVP23]

If he leaves, I wish him the best....that being said, I wish him the best. He isn't staying. I've known that since he turned down the freaking Max offer. Oh well......

[MVP23]

I would be more worried if this was Smooves contract year....since he is our best player and all.

[Gray Mule]

Let me get this straight.

If we sign JJ and keep him it will cost the Hawks big $$$.

If we lose JJ for nothing, we will have no $$$ to sign another player.

Doesn't seem fair. For sure, lots of stuff going on in the NBA isn't what most would consider fair.
Example: Big Z and Cleveland. Smells fishey, doesn't it.

So, Atlanta has two choices. (1) Sign JJ for major $$$ (2) Lose JJ for nothing and have no $$$ to sign
another player.

[MVP23]

Give Smoove the max, he becomes a 30 15 guy.

..the only real option we have is a sign and trade. Sign Joe, trade him for a Kevin Martin.

[exodus]

MVP23, on 09 March 2010 - 06:42 PM, said:

If he leaves, I wish him the best....that being said, I wish him the best. He isn't staying. I've known that since he turned down the freaking Max offer. Oh well......

What are you talking about?

[mrhonline]

Gray Mule, on 09 March 2010 - 06:48 PM, said:

So, Atlanta has two choices. (1) Sign JJ for major $$ (2) Lose JJ for nothing and have no $$ to sign
another player.

The "club" just grew by one.

[MVP23]

exodus, on 09 March 2010 - 07:22 PM, said:

What are you talking about?

Im talkin bout practice. No, seriously

http://bleacherrepor...e-atlanta-hawks

[mrhonline]

To clarify, the Hawks offered Joe the max extension, something altogether different from the max free agent contract they can offer him this summer.

The former was limited to four years, the latter can be up to six years. The distinction matters when judging Joe's intentions.

[exodus]

mrhonline, on 09 March 2010 - 07:38 PM, said:

To clarify, the Hawks offered Joe the max extension, something altogether different from the max free agent contract they can offer him this summer.

The former was limited to four years, the latter can be up to six years. The distinction matters when judging Joe's intentions.

I didn't know there was such a big disparity. interesting.

[AHF]

exodus, on 09 March 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

I didn't know there was such a big disparity. interesting.

This is why I have never read much into his failing to get a deal done last season. He would have to be a moron to pass on a 5 or 6 year contract to sign a 4 year deal when his leverage this offeason is about 100X more than it will be in 4 years.

[mrhonline]

To clarify again, the Hawks (reportedly) didn't offer the "max" extension, but could have. Sorry.

[hawksfanatic]

mrhonline, on 09 March 2010 - 08:49 PM, said:

To clarify again, the Hawks (reportedly) didn't offer the "max" extension, but could have. Sorry.

I was about to say something about that. If I remember correctly, the Hawks only offered ~$60 million over 4 years. That isn't the max that we could offer. Personally, I don't think Joe is looking for the max per year deal. It seems to me that Joe is looking for the max length deal and likely won't receive the maximum amount of money he could potentially make.

And to clarify, the Max that New York can offer is less than the Max that Atlanta can offer. Sund has shown that he won't bid against himself (the exception would be Ray Allen) so I don't think we even offer our Max deal.

[Johnnybravo4]

If we lose JJ then we have to try to move Marvin and Bibby for a middle road player. Like a Caron Butler. Move Teague to the starting lineup and we don't really take that far a step back imo.

[exodus]

I don't want to think about losing JJ right now. we'll had plenty of time to worry about that in the summer.

[Diesel]

If Joe Leaves.. You can best believe we're making more moves. For instance, i can see Bibby leaving in a trade.

Sund is going to have that flagship guy on this team.

So if that means doing something crazy like Al/Bibby/First for Amare or some other big... watch him do it.