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Al Jefferson is going to be a monster again next year. The injury he had takes time to recover. If we could get him for Smoove, id do that in a heartbeat. Jefferson is more of a 5 than Horford is. (and the 2 Big Als would be a hell of a marketing campaign). And I will NEVER use Chris Wallace of Memphis as a benchmark for a player's value.

Are you kidding me? We'd do Smoove for Jefferson in a second. Minnesota would be retarded for that one (Al is going to have a huge year.. last year was a down year while recovering from his injury).

It's common knowledge the Warriors are trying to cut costs and shed contracts. Now that we're balls deep in the ludicrous build-a-championship-caliber-team-around-JJ-Horf-Smoove approach, I think we gotta roll the dice on adding a young stud. Ellis is a great candidate. Elite skills. Young (24 years old). Never really had the chance to thrive, but clearly the skills are there. I'd offer Crawford's expiring and a 1st. I can kinda talk myself into a JJ-Ellis-Smoove-Horf core. That's 4 All Star caliber players, and a fun team to boot.

First post in awhile. Stupid thing for Joe to say, but he's obviously very frustrated and disappointed in himself. I will say this though: I think there's a decent shot that JJ joins Lebron somewhere. He's the perfect side-kick, #2 guy. He can definitely be the Pippen to Lebron's Jordan... and it's going to be very tough for us all to watch as we slip back into mediocrity for a bit.

Too bad Watson lost. But LOL at Bill Simmon's Twitter post: "How has a 59 year-old played 20 holes without urinating yet, that is Watson's most impressive feat."

not great quality, but applicable

LOL @ this thread. Diesel, at this point, I would say your infatuation with Marvin is bordering on "unhealthy". WOW.

Wallace is a tough mofo. We do need that. Im happy with him being a big off the bench. Sign him and Wilcox (to go with Zaza) and that's a toughass bench. Theyll knock some dudes around. I like it.

In all fairness, Rio is paid for his value as a "practice" player, not an "in-game" player (he pushes our regular rotation players in practice -- every team needs a guy like that).

Teague did way better in Hollinger's projections for college players in the NBA (anyone have that link?).

Jeez I forgot how sensitive people can get if they perceive you to be "hating" on their guy. Again, I always liked Acie (and I think he will do a lot better on a team that isnt so desperate for outside shooting the way we are). But come on, did you see Acie try to shoot the last couple of seasons?? Dude struggled.

1. Acie was never a "shooter." He is a scorer, but he struggles to finish at the rim in the NBA (which really takes away from his effectiveness). 2. Acie was never a change-of-pace guy. And while I admit Acie could get to the rim quite well, he is nowhere near as quick as Teague (just wait). 3 and 4. Actually, when we got Acie, our other PGs were Speedy, AJ and Lue. So no, we did not have the luxury of letting him develop behind an established vet. When we finally got Bibby, it almost seemed like Acie was a lost cause on this team (mainly because he couldnt shoot worth a d*mn). I liked Acie, he just didnt fit here (again, we needed a shooter, which he is NOT).

I think Teague has a few things going for him that Acie didnt: 1) He can shoot (most important); 2) He's the change-of-pace guard that the Hawks need in a backup (think Monta Ellis style; Acie was more of a Cassell/Billups but without the shot); 3) We can take our time with him if need be (Bibby and Crawford can both run the point); 4) He has an established and respected Vet in front of him (Acie never had that; I think Bibby will help Teague quite a bit (just not defensively lol)).

Actually I'd argue it was the Sun's cheap ownership that cost them a ring. A Nash-JJ-Marion-Amare squad wouldve won at least 1, and maybe more. But, they let JJ go, and the rest is history.

True, but it can always be worst. Read "The Road" by Cormac McCarthy.