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  1. Knowing Josh Powell he probably just lit the necessary fire under the team to come out and play the way they did tonight.
  2. The only trade that would make sense to me would be to trade offense for defense. Gerald Wallace would be a worthy trade and also make us very dangerous on defense combined with Smoove. We all know Smoove is our only consistent shot blocker and many complain about our perimeter defense. We would just have to convince Marvin to come off the bench and be the man (main scorer). All in all we have very capable scorers and when they are playing in Drew's offense correctly we can still be deadly on that end of the floor. I would still love to keep Jamal but if our hands were forced I would try to get Gerald keep the other Gerald's (Wilkin's) son and put Mo in the deal if needed.
  3. I think he had about 3 steals if I'm not mistaken( pretty good ones at that). As far as his offensive play I thought the same thing a everyone else did at first. He doesn't want to work within the system and he is out to get his. Wrong!! As the game progressed some of us recognized what was going on. He was put in to be an X-Factor and a scoring guard and still be affective because he can pass and doesn't run down the shot clock as much as JJ would. It keeps the defensive on their toes and guessing. Like a boxing match it kind of knocks the wind out of you when you can't gauge the tempo and constantly have to keep up with the offenses quick cuts.
  4. We all know Jamal is a great ball handler and passer. Why don't we leave that position for Bibby, JC and Teague to earn? Bibby is getting older. Teague may not be ready. Let's see if Crawford could start in Drew's system. We would have Teague/Bibby, JC2/Mo Evans, Josh Powell can also play some small forward in Drew's system( I played rec ball and went to high school with him, believe me I know). Hopefully Sy is here and could help the PG-SF positions. Then we have Etan Thomas and Zaza Pachulia making up the rest of our bench. With 4/5 Allstar capable starters and the new offense we should be able to sub without skipping a beat. The bench can blend in with some of the starters as rest and mismatches become factors. By having and using a deep bench we can stay on attack mode with different combinations and keep opponents on their toes. If Crawford proves he can't/won't work with in the system and prove he is the best man for the position then moves should be considered. Drew does not seem to be as stubborn or strict with his rotation as Woody and should consider the best option available. I think both sides should consider the situation and both have a lot to gain.
  5. :thumbsupsmileyanim: Bravo!! Spoken like a true student/teacher of the game.
  6. Out of all these players Sean Williams seems to be the only one to have real potential for the future. He is still young and athletic and if he can get his head straight he could be a diamond in the rough. Especially with what our team would need out of him which is toughness, blocks and rebounds.
  7. I agree!! People misjudge/misunderstand what it means to have untapped/misused talent. If every body on this squad is used properly we have a deadly team. They know each others skill set and tendencies which enhances our chemistry and with the right coaching they have plenty of room to fly. Remember our playoff losses came because of lack of adjustments, effort and energy. With a coach that optimizes our rotations and can make in game adjustments we can be a beast that even us as fans have yet to see.
  8. lol. Seriously though, I agree let's see if we can fully utilize what we have with our new coach and cohesion of talent.
  9. I agree about the comment directly above all I'm saying is won't we be doing the same thing as the Pistons if we trade or let someone like Smoove get away. He is our best shot blocker( shortest to record as many blocks as him last season) and is the tallest player last year to record as many steals as him. Once you realize how much of an impact Smoove is to our team you don't give up value like that unless your getting a Lebron or Wade. Remember Smoove has plenty of room to grow and has been doing just that year to year. Why would you trade Marvin for being exactly what our team former coach has asked of him. If we needed Marvin to be a league leading scorer he would be. He has a pure stroke and the added three point shooting is definitely a plus. He knows how to draw the foul and is pretty good scoring around the basket. He is still very athletic although most of our players starting with Smoove on down to Teague spoil us when it comes to that aspect. Marvin is also a lot more focused on defense and has done a good job versus the Peirce's and Lebron's of the game. Would you really trade a promising second year guard that can penetrate and is willing and capable to run down and block shots like Josh use to. Teague is also an underrated shooter. I can only imagine how Boston would feel/felt if they got rid of Rondo prematurely only for him to blossom like he is now. So my question is who do we trade that will be worth more value than we are giving up. Why make a move just to say we made a move. Sometimes the best move is no move and while were coveting others players we need to take pride in our own. Josh Childress is going to be a prime example of this when we see him under a system that he can flourish in. Let's see LD's system that he specially designed for the current players we have before we come to any sudden conclusions. One thing I believe all Hawks fans can agree on is that the Evil Genius Woody did not aid/allow our players in reaching their full potential. Yeah we want to win now just the same but lets not make the same mistake until we see our revamped product on the floor. If we felt like any one of our young players have seriously reached their ceiling that's one thing but I think we know deep down inside there is a lot more than what has been currently shown by all of our (young 25 -) players.
  10. :thumbsupsmileyanim: I was with you until I read the comments under the bold comments. http://www.hawksquawk.net/community/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif All these talks of trading a player like Smoove but who would you trade Smoove for that will actually be a worthy improvement. You must admit his natural ability his natural ability is far and few but you must also take into account that this is a home grown talent that came straight out of high school. All players grow at their own pace but the great ones show steady improvement and the ones that have done this coming out of high school are pretty darn good. Look at Garnett, Jermaine O'neal before the injuries and after spending four years on Portland's bench. McGrady after he got out of his cousins shadows in Toronto and gaining his own team in Orlando. I shouldn't even have to mention Kobe and Lebron. What about Josh's home boy Dwight who is still getting better at his own pace. These players no doubt excel talent wise and when they understood/understand the mental aspects of their game and the nba is when they are at their best. We have a rare talent that is not only improving year to year but can also be a convincing assists man in bringing in a force of his own if the trend that Lebron, Bosh and Wade started continues. Imagine Dwight Howard coming back to his hometown to pair up with his long time childhood friend in Josh Smith without us having to lose much. JJ's contract alone should be enough to make any intangibles work if he were to force a trade. Trading Smoove would be a bold move but it would not be the smart bold move. Talks of traditional lineups should be thrown out the window. You don't get better by standing still you get better by evolution. Even back then you had your Charles Barkley's and Anthony Mason's who were Jordan size playing power foward. Now of days you got your tall but skinny Noah's playing center or your short but hustling/quick centers like David Lee or a 6'6 Chuck Hayes. Stagnant is not improving every year. We still have young talented players that improve every year individually and collectively. A Hawks fan that has been one at least since this core has got together would notice at least some of the steady improvement. It is hard for people to realize changes that are right in front of you when you see them every day so you may have to step back and look outside the box. For instance if you plant a seed for a tree and stare at that spot daily you are going to see little to no growth. What will happen if you leave and come back a couple years later. Growth/Greatness takes time. Patience is something thst most fans lack. Luckily our ownership is a lot more understanding than us in a basketball and business sense. If they stay the course you will see as you have seen continues improvement which we should continue to ride until we see a real peak. Getting swept in the second round because of lack of effort and intensity is not a peak unless the chemistry issues continue. "The grass is not always greener " which you may not ever know if you don't look or step over to the other side but I have to revise an old saying. "If it ain't broke don't brake it" just to have a new toy which you might get tired of just the same if not sooner because you are missing what you had. The minute our talent shows us the best they have to offer on a nightly basis including the playoffs, is the minute we can truly judge whether to keep a team that has continued to rise, together or make major changes. No team/franchise in their right mind should make drastic changes (that may or may not work out) to a team that is steadily improving. This year however and maybe next depending on circumstances( under a new coaching system/super power in Miami) should be the test.
  11. What do you mean their rosters were fluid. When you look at the Championship teams for the last couple of decades you will notice a common factor. All of these teams had a solid roster for years. They may have tweaked the roster here in there like a (Robert Horry/Rasheed Wallace or in our case Bibby/Jamal Crawford) but their core remained solid. You knew it was going to be Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, Kerr coming at you most nights when you faced the bulls. They made necessary/minimal tweaks every now in than mainly just replacing a missing/needed role like getting Rodman after Horace Grant left. Spurs had D Robinson, Duncan, Bowen and later added Parker and Ginobilli as the core. As already stated in an earlier post the Pistons had their core of Ben, Chauncey, Prince, Rip and Rasheed became their X Factor. The Lakers of course had Kobe, Shaq, Fischer and Horry was a key factor for a couple of championship teams. Their recent championships came with getting a win-win opportunity where they got Pau Gasol without having to give up their core of Odom, Bynum, Fischer, Luke or give up their key guy in Kobe. Rarely do you see a team that makes drastic moves get there and even if they do it is hard to maintain their elite status. Celtics traded their young core for a big opportunity but that move will now restart the rebuilding process as age continues to be a factor. With players like Rondo who was considered to be not ready or tradable ala Teague will help their rebuilding process be a lot easier because of his skill set and age. Miami made the big move for the Big Fella and added a not to shabby cast at the time (Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, James Posey, etc.). They could not keep that core together for too long because of chemistry, contracts and age. The only reason the Heat were able to remain relevant is because they got a guy name Dwayne Wade. The ASG are following the course of true "Championship Caliber" Franchises. They are keeping a good “young” core (yes the main core/draftees are still young) together that continue to progress individually and collectively. They(ASG) attempt (financial restraints or not) to add the best suited tweaks(Bibby/Jamal) for reasonable prices while maintaining our core (with the exception of Chills but you can't win/keep them all). This is a very difficult tasks. Our players know each others characters and tendencies and have been through big ups and downs together which is a big plus for chemistry. Add our players being very familiar with each other and a coach that is just as familiar and you might have a winning formula. For a coach like Drew (that has studied/assisted under the likes of Phil Jackson) to say he has an offense that hasn't been seen in the NBA should be very intriguing. He grew up with our core just like Woodson, which is another bonus for chemistry and to top it off we got him for a very low price. In my opinion that sounds like a move that someone with good basketball and business sense would make. Let the experts do what they are spending "their" money to do. Two heads are better than one (Belkin) and believe it or not we got a lot of good basketball/business minds on our side. A lot of us as fans lack the sense to have both and with our lack of patience will usually end up on the losing side. Just ask a well known fan with money (Mark Cuban). If you have taken notice you will see his maturation in his latter years as an owner. Although he still has the win now mentality he is starting to understand that it takes time for a roster to gel and get that chemistry. The old Mark Cuban would have picked up an available Shaq in a heart beat. Although he still may you notice he is working more on getting players that will compliment his core and being more cautious of moves that may cost without getting the ultimate reward.
  12. Agreed!! I feel like with a Shaq/McGee and Chills back we have a great chance if everyone plays on all cylinders(plays their role correctly). Chillz knows how talented our team is and how to fit in. Hopefully he sees what the guys in Miami are doing and can mend fences.
  13. :thumbsupsmileyanim: Agreed !! We can still trade Johnson if needed but let's keep our core together and strengthen our weaknesses. Our new/old coach Larry Drew may help solve one which is to stop us from being stagnant on offense. It's interesting that he has worked with Phil and the Lakers and can claim that he has an offense that is simplistic but affective and is one that the NBA has yet to see. Our other need is a dominant (actually) big man (like a Shaq even at this age) or a Big that's athletic and is a good rebounder and defender(like Javale McGee). Everyone else's role should be increased as the offense changes and maybe we can see more potential out of our players(Like Marvin,Teague, Josh,Joe, Jamal, Al etc.).
  14. I either read a recent article or saw a video of LD saying his offense is based on movement and instinct. Basically saying that it was simplistic in the matter of movement and easy shots. I know I need to find my source but from what I heard/saw it seems to be something that takes a lot of pressure off of all of our players and gets people in spots that cater to their strengths.
  15. I Agree!! The real belief is that not only will our offense improve but morals will change for the better. We have defensive minded players but if their morale is down because of lack of ball movement they are not going to want to play defense. The switch defense works because or when you have long athletic guys that are committed to helping and playing hard defense. We are not changing the players just making them more affective. If they are getting easy shots on offense it's going to be a lot easier to flow on defense. The team will be saving more energy and be able to be more aggressive and in sync on defense.
  16. :thumbsupsmileyanim: Now this is a man that understands basketball concept and is definitely a Hawks fan. Why would you blow up your young 53 win franchise. Being able to grow together with familiar faces is always a plus for chemistry. Other NBA teams are starting to remodel using our blue prints( OKC, Blazers) and you are seeing the success. I don't think there is one true Hawks fan that really knows basketball think that any of our young core has peaked (Al, Smoove, Marvin, Childress, Teague). Why would you bring in some one who is unfamiliar with the talent level, personalities and personnel of the team when you have some one that is familiar with all of these aspects and believes he can bring out a lot of our untapped potential?
  17. :cant believe: Wow!! I see somebody that's going to be eating his words. :thumbsdownsmileyanim:
  18. b) can't play our style well without home fan energy Our teamis still learning to focus on a game for 48 minutes and without the crowd cheering you on (waking you up) we may get caught sleep walking during the game.
  19. Shame on you JJ if your a real fan. Take heath to Atlantaholic's post. This is a team game and on our team a average or slightly above average game by JJ doesn't top the waaayyyy above average game in a long time by Bibby. If Mario had a 17 point 8 rebound game in clutch moments in a win he may get it over a forced or easy 28/30 point game by JJ. JJ is a star we know that and expect that. Bibby surprised most of us by showing he saved some in the tank for the big games so give Bibby his props!!
  20. Gotta beat da best to be da best and I think we can be just dat just put da pressure on our backs and carry like glue on our hands I think we can be da man ta be da man must beat da man so I prefer da toughest road ta show exactly where we stand!! Let's Go Hawks!! No talk just action all walk and backin it up wit above average play, ball not until we fall gotta climb rise to da top run our own race do it wit blind eyes like a horse out shootem out do em show your greatness and da next u'll know u can't do nothin to em stopin hatin if u a fan keep ya cool and feedem when they hot and leave da rest up to da basics May the Best Men Win!! Holic your last statement bringing out the flow in me. I know it may be difficult for most to read but hopefully you'll get the gist.
  21. Again it is nothing but a focus factor. Were blowing a team out we lose focus and forget we have to finish the game. We're losing we eventually snap out of it and focus in on trying to get the win. It's nothing to do with laziness it's just a lack of focus. When you have a team full of team players and nobody is focused in or they try to do it all their selves it usually doesn't end well. If the other team has enough momentum from our lack of focus it is hard to withstand or come back because we've already been mentally out the game for too long.
  22. Your not wrong at all. That is a direct affect of loss of focus. I'm assuming Woody teaches them time is on our side and in his attempt to get the win he has them slow the game down. That obviously has not been the key for us to regain focus. If we got the ball rolling keep it rolling. Basketball is a game of a lot of things but momentum is key. When the momentum is on our side keep it going by doing what ever we were doing to get the momentum in the first place. You switch that up you lose momentum or in our case focus.
  23. :thumbsupsmileyanim: All the above is true. I'm a fan that is so attached to the team that I kind of feel the pressure when the team does. Yeah the Bucks made a run which got me (us) in wake up mode but I didn't ever actually feel any pressure even when the score got to within 5/7. Not to say that this series or any for that matter will be easy. The league this year has been great/versatile and the best teams have made the playoffs. Every team has that fight in them from the #1 seed to the 8th in both conferences and nobody just slid in the playoffs this year (Not even the Bulls). Everybody earned their way and everyone is going to try to show why they belong. It's the Elite teams that find a way to win no matter how much fight the opposing team gives whether it is a blowout or putting in just enough work to get the W. This is the playoffs and at the end of the day all that matters is the W's. Yes there is a psychological factor that's in play about how the W's came about or how one team fared against another but again at the end of the day it's all about the W's.
  24. Sorry I read this later and wrote too soon. As far as your beginning statements go, I agree.
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