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For a 2nd maybe

Yeah sorry I’m not doing that. I need at least one high ceiling asset.

Robinson is out for the season most likely he has no value to me, grimes hasn’t been good and wants a new contract + more PT….and only 1 pick which is probably not even a lottery pick? I’m firing fields if he does that.

Grimes has a -8.6 on/off. Hes a negative player because he’s terrible offensively don’t want him at all. And those picks are non lottery

Hes a poor fit anyway

Knicks assets are meh, a bunch of picks but all from good teams. They have nothing appealing…Grimes is meh too. Their fans also think they’re getting him on a discount so they can trade him for Dmitch or another star in the off-season. lol

I mean JC wasn’t really 2nd wheel just because he’s been the 2nd leading scorer…. Check the usage. He was at 20.5% last year….this is 4th option type on some teams. Even in previous years when he put up 20-10, it was more 3rd option type. He’s never really been a normal 2nd wheel… so he should be good with the third role if he’s not traded and his numbers could stay around the same (hopefully closer to last year stats though) The only thing that’s changed is his role bc of Capela who pushes him farther out from the basket. You won’t get 20-10 from JC…but at least the duo is impactful together overall.

They have nothing intriguing to offer.

I think JC and Cap overlap more. At least offensively. I hope hawks keep him and don’t sell low. Don’t want a downgrade and a pick.

Scotto: Sacramento is likely out after taking Keegan Murray in the draft, and Portland just traded for Jerami Grant unofficially, who plays the same position as John Collins. There have been rumblings about Collins not being totally happy with his current role. Kirschner: From talking with people since the draft, it seems like the market for Collins has decreased quite a bit. Now, I’m not really sure who’s interested in him… As it stands now for John, the market has definitely dwindled down for him. It’s not a possibility the Hawks just keep him. The Hawks aren’t going to just trade John for nothing. We’re talking about someone who’s a really good player. Scotto: Rival executives around the NBA I’ve spoken to believe a potential extension for De’Andre Hunter down the line could be in the high teens or close to $20 million annually. Those executives have also gotten the sense from talking to Atlanta that Hunter is a part of the team’s core going forward with Trae Young and Onyeka Okongwu. Kirschner: I think the Hawks want to get something done with Hunter. They want that wrapped up heading into the regular season. Scotto: Ayton has been linked with the Hawks in a potential sign-and-trade scenario. The Hawks, I’ve heard, want to create more playing time for Onyeka Okongwu. If there was going to be a trade package for Ayton, I don’t know if John Collins would be in that. I think certainly Clint Capela would be a possibility as a true center and someone who played with Chris Paul. Kirschner: I’ve heard from multiple people that the only way the Hawks would pursue Ayton is if he could be had on less than a max contract. If that’s the case, it’s certainly possible Phoenix retains him and tries to rebuild that relationship with him.

Who is the guy lol someone with the Kings. Absolutely no to a Barnes swap.

No and he’s going to be 30 years old and an expiring contract. Would be an awful move.

Huh? You think Ayton isn’t getting the opportunity but JC does? Ayton has more usage than Jc did this year. Both were treated like 3rd/4th options. Ayton has the 4 perimeter guys playing with him at all times. Perfect fit around him offensively. Collins doesn’t fit great with Capela and hurts his number. Bet any amount throw a meh fit around Ayton and his numbers would go down. I like him but not seeing JJ at all.

Yeah because Randle has really shown you he can you a bucket in his only playoff appearance. Randle can shoot off the dribble on poor efficiency. Not in the same stratosphere as Trae in that department.

No he isn’t. Every advanced stat has Collins over Randle for a reason. You’re overrating him based on counting stats which isn’t the right way to look at things. Randle shoots 17+ shots a game + has led the nba in mpg last 2 years. Of course he puts up points. Not a fan of scoring 20+ on poor efficiency, turning the ball over a lot, poor defense ….

I absolutely hate the idea of watching Collins numbers/usage going down and then trading him. Hawks aren’t going to get = value back. No one at 7 I’d rather have than him. This isn’t a winning move at all.

Randle needs the ball in his hands. He’s not good off the ball with his lack of shooting….not sure why Knicks wouldn’t just make him more off the ball if that would be his best role. Also he’s not getting starter mins with Collins. Hawks don’t need a 25m backup PF for the next 4 years. Hawks need help on the perimeter not expensive backup PF who doesn’t make a high impact. That isn’t putting the team over the top.

Because you don’t pay someone 4 year 117m to play Gallo’s role. Hawks are already tight on money and Randle will be considered one of the worst contracts (a lot already consider him in that category) in the league. Would be a disaster. Again Knicks fans are praying to get rid of the guy for a reason.

BogBog not making 25m a year. Not to mention he was expected to compete for a starting spot when he was signed.

Gallo was only paid for 2 years with the 3rd year being team option. Randle just signed 4 year 117M which is significantly more than 2 year 40M. Randle also has a player option in this last year. Not to mention hawks did that deal bc all their young talent was still on their rookie contract. We don’t have that luxury any more.

Only guy I really want is Ayton depending on the price. I’d put money Randle doesn’t come to Atlanta. Just can’t think of a worse fit and Schlenk ain’t paying that guy that much to come off the bench. Horrible use of money.

Yeah there is no way Suns get all that in S&T. And I’m not a cap guy but not sure how Suns could even take both CC and JC’s salary. That’s 5 guys making 21m+ next year. Don’t think they can take on all that salary.

I think he is pretty different than Dre. Dre is a better shooter and more perimeter based with his scoring while JJ is a lot better near the rim. I’m not sure if JJ will be able to shoot well enough from the perimeter to play the 3 full time. If teams don’t respect his 3 ball he won’t be able to but it’s ok to me bc his handle/passing/finishing stand out at the 4 and hitting open 3’s at decent clip would be a bonus. Nate has said multiple time he see his as a 4 too I believe and that’s the only position he played when was in the rotation for that short time.