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  1. Does the Cam pick mean we are thinking we will resign Dedmon or will we be rolling with Alex Len Starting at the 5? What other FA might fill the need or does anyone think we go small ball and play Hunter and Cam together with Collins at the 5. Seems like that lineup would get killed on the boards and have no rim protection. What are peoples thoughts on how we handle the 5 next season?
  2. I think we got the best wing defender in the draft with a high floor. He fits well into making the Hawks a well rounded team. We still have the 10 so we could realistically have a starting 5 all on rookie deals. With Klay hurt I think TS lost the only FA he would throw max money so we take on bad expiring deals so we don't take away playing time from our young core. When all the contracts we took on this year we could be sitting in a great place a team of you studs and (I am no capologist so this could be wrong)but probably enough apace to sign two max deals next year so we could do the team up with a great young team. If we miss rhe play offs we will add one more lotto pick to the mic too. I know we gave away a lot a picks but we have so much young talent now we could have almost been to loaded with rookie and second year players. TS has earned the draft day equity from me the last two years to trust him and I can see if his vision for a complete team of young studs. The 10 will be interesting I was all in for Jaxson Hayes but now I am thinking that the big Euro center at ten could be the perfect fit to give us the best young team in the NBA. Home grown threw the draft. If nothing else we don't have a nutless GM afraid to pull the trigger when be likes what he sees. Can't wait till this fall Go Hawks!
  3. Bleacher Report had a tweet from Woz that indicated the Thunder could be shopping their 1st rounder for multiple 2nd rounders to avoid the guaranteed salary. Wondering what folks thought about offering up our second rounders for the Thunder pick (#21 I think). That would really give us the ammo to trade up if TS is in love with a player and he has proven he can find quality players in the high teen and twenties. If the Thunder really want to unload a 1st for financial reasons I think the Hawks could be in a great position to load up.
  4. I think so too. I hope it's to move back in and grab a third mid first pick though and not sweetener to move up from 8 or 10. I think we will have plenty of great options at both spots and even though i think Hunter would be a perfect fit not sure i i would give Prince and the 8 to get high enough to grab him. Maybe we luck out and he falls to us though.
  5. I think we will draft our starting SF this year with the 8. Prince could be a good stop gap starter and then i could see him as a GREAT six man. He would be the focal point of the 2nd team and outmatch most backups. Still see him as a strong probability to be traded on draft night with a couple 2nds to get us back into the Mid 1st round especially if Sekou slips some or Porter is still around after the lottery. Either way I'm happy keep him or trade him especially with Bembry's improvement who will cost way less to extend.
  6. I completely agree. Outside of Zion i don't see anyone worth two lottery picks, especially with the quality of player TS has found at the 19. I don't think RJ is a big enough difference maker to pass on several other small forwards. Cam and Sekou seem to duplicative in skill with Cam having the lower floor and Sekou a potentially higher ceiling. I won't be surprised at all if RJ is a Pelican next because the Knicks or Lakers trade the 3 or 4 in a deal for AD. Bol's foot scares the hell out of me he could be an amazing stretch 5 or Greg Oden 2.0. I don't think Hayes is a future all star but he does bring rim protection, rebounding, and trey throwing monster alley oops to him and collins would be highlight factory redux. If hayes is there at ten i still want him, just because he fits a huge need. I would love to see Prince and some second rounders possibly move us back in to grab sekou or someone like Huerter or Collins we might not be talking about but TS spots another diamond that is sliding and trades back in mid first and grabs then.
  7. I think he could easily get a personal table at the Cheetah. Maybe change the name from Cheetah Three to what ever jersey # he wanted to wear for the Hawks. The Pink Kwahi has a decent ring to it too. Lol
  8. I have enjoyed eating crow for my freak out and ranting about the draft night last year... Guess that's why i teach. College and don't run an NBA front office.... Great job by our two young studs and bright days ahead for the Hawks! My mouth will be closed draft night this year TS has earned my confidence now!!
  9. Anyone else looking back on the Billy Knight years and wondering if he was just ahead of the times with his posiitionless basketball team concept? He made highly questionable draft calls but does look a lot more visionary today then he did when I routinely ranted and raged about him all those years ago...
  10. Watching Leonard jack up shots like the 2nd coming if Kobe, post Shaq, did make it real clear why he was on the outs with the Spurs culture. Pop would never had allowed the way he has played this post season. He has balled out though. I can maybe see him turning down Supermax money to go home to LA, but i don't think he will even speak to the Hawks. Next year i think we are players with tier one FA though. Especially, if TS has a another draft like the last two.
  11. I've read a couple Twitter posts (consider the source) and seen an article on Fansided, I think, that TS has said they only spend on the right player and saw a quote where he said he only has one established All Star on his target list. With his GS background it makes me think maybe TS hopes Klay Thompson wants to pull a Beard and be the man on "HIS" team. I have never felt that vibe from Thompson but i have little to base that opinion on. Assuming that, big if, the above statements are true do other people think we will make a run a Klay or another Marquee? Also, is Klay a true #1 max player without KD and Curry around to draw the most attention? Ironically, KD coming here could be the best thing for his image (I don't think for a second this happens) but he got killed for joining a super team he couldn't beat. If he came to a young talented lottery team and took them to the Finals or even won a title in ATL then he would forever bury the if you can't beat 'em join negative rep he got. In GS.
  12. I Had the same thought but was hoping for a Hunter / Jaxson combo. I think we have a nice future with scoring with Trae, JC, and Huerter. I know Jaxson may be a bit of a reach at 8 but a super athletic rim protector that finished hard at the rim (With Hayes and Collins Ice Trae would make ATL Lob City 2.0 for sure) and a defensive stopper in Hunter, that can do a little of everything, could really balance out the team. Hunter would also bring a winning program's mindset and be ready to do the dirty work. I would also be intrigued about a possible Prince and what ever combo of this 2nd and maybe a future 2nd that might get us back in the 1st if the kid from France was still there. He is young and raw but the highlights i have watched make me think he could be special. Not sure what Princes trade value would be, but he is a legit NBA player that will give you the sporadic great game. If we held at 8 & 10 and left the draft with Reddish, Jaxson, Frenchie we would have a potential dynamic front court and wing depth for years and the salary space to potentially add a marque free agent if Hawks made another leap and found the 7 or 8 spot. It's always the best time if the year to be a Hawks fan (historically sad I know) between the l lottery and the draft. However, this year we have a GM hitting 1.000 in my opinion so i am excited to see what we look like in a month.
  13. I felt pretty good last night and think Supes was dead on above but damn with no Trey and no Collins this bunch looks like a YMCA pick up group. I really expected someone to surprise me in Vegas. I will watch against the Bulls and pray someone shows me they can actually shoot the ball.
  14. Well at least Collins didn't get hurt... That game was pretty painful to watch. Sloppy play and out of control offense. Comfusion on defense and HORRIBLE 3 point shooting. I wonder what the record for missed threes in a summer league game is... we had to be close. Portland had a lot of second year players and it showed. Oh well on to game 3. If Trey is hurt and we know Collins is done so I have little hope to see much the rest of the way in summer league. Doesn't look like much help will be coming from this group. Spellman may be rotational but I didn't see any NBA players on the floor today from the Hawks but Collins. Can't make much from Summer League but I sure wish we were posting on here that you can't get to excited over a SL game and not wishing we saw a surprise player that shocked us with their play.
  15. I completely agree!! I feel for any teenager that has the media set him up so that he looks bad if does not play like a two time MVP and arguably the best three point shooter of all time in his first pro game. The trade got so much negative reaction I know almost any confident 19 year old would want to shut people up. He pushed way to hard to be Steph in Utah. Yesterday he was much better. Those "4" point shots need to stop (I almost wish he didn't make enough to keep jacking them up). But he showed great handles, good chemistry with Collins and looked like a PG yesterday not somebody trying to qualify for the three point competition. I'm excited for today's game and feeling better about the pick and what we may have in the future with Collins and Trey!!!
  16. Probably the team jet and a lifetime free tab at the Cheetah too... The price for a trade would blow up what were building... but if we can show the team is winning and has two young stars KAT could definitely see ATL as a destination that just needs a superstar to be a contender. We could probably throw two max deals out then too so he can bring a player he wants with him. Living in the ATL has to sound better then Minny and getting Tibs and Butler off his ass won't hurt our chances either.
  17. If we are looking for a high lottery pick and not worried about win totals Ty Lawson is the type of player who would probably embrace a mentor role for Trey and accept he is getting paid a lot of money to mentor a young player. Jason Terry retiring a Hawk would be a feel good story if nothing else. Jameer Nelson would also probably be a good mentor and I think I've heard he wants to coach post playing career. Good chance to show he can be a player / coach and might parlay a season of steady improvement by Trey into a coaching job. Maybe on the Hawks if he really shows something. IT is gonna play for a contract and would probably make us better if he can still physically do what he could pre hip. Dont think he would be as willing to come in to be a mentor but I also never heard anything bad about him in the locker room pre Cleveland and the list of players (especially) PG's that struggle playing with LeBron is steady growing. (Side note if that continues the LeBron Daddy Ball show could be a total train wreck next year).
  18. I was responding more to the general negative comments in the thread than your post and I totally agree with your premise that the style of play in Utah did contribute to Trey's poor shooting. The whole world was watching him and the coaches could have done him a favor by reigning in his shooting when he was clearly not feeling his shot (I feel for any teenager that people were gonna call out for not playing like a two time MVP in his first pro game). I definitely didn't want to mischaracterize your post which I agreed with sorry if it came across that way.
  19. I won't put to much stock in the "system" from the Utah league. I think they let the players run loose to see what they naturally tended to and let the second year guys try the skills the worked hardest in the offseason line Collins back to the basket and extending his range. If the Vegas league does not show more structure I will be a bit more concerned but to decide the coaching hire was a bust after three scrimmages is way to early even for the most negative squawkers. Give Pierce a full camp with his actual team and then restart this thread in November
  20. From all reports no one is going to give us anything for Dennis but 2nd round picks and bad contracts. If I didn't think he will be a locker room cancer and would actually work with Trey to learn the NBA game I would love for him to stay a year and let Trey get his minutes against 2nd unit players. Dennis actually has a skill set that is strong in areas where Trey needs to learn and improve. He knows how to shoot and pass better than Dennis now. If he could learn to attack the rim as a smaller player and use his speed against stronger longer defenders like Dennis does it would be great. I just think with Dennis wanting out, knowing he has been replaced, and showing he is knucklehead off the court he won't help develop trey and will just be a chucked next year trying to get his PPG as high as possible to try and get out of Atlanta. He went work to make our young wings or bigs better this season will be all about ME for Dennis. He could be the bear player in picks games in the yard at a prison by years end for all we know. If the Solomon Jones and NO 1st is a deal I say we take it. We could sign Isiah Thomas to a one year deal maybe to let Trey have a year to develop. Not sure IT wouldn't have a lot of the same problems I see from Dennis but at least he is not a criminal and was seen as a good teammate until Cleveland and LeBron.
  21. I would take Solomon and a 1st for Dennis. Like many said above you miss on more picks than you hit. If we get Dallas and our pick next year we should have two Lottery picks. No Lebron in Cleveland looks like that first is going to turn into 2 2nds. If we added NO's 1st at least we are looking at the 1st maybe 3 lottery picks. That would be the best we can hope for Dennis at this point. Questionable 3 point shoot if off the floor idiocy have just not made him much of an asset. If I thought he wouldn't be a locker room cancer next year (I do) he could benefit Trey by pushing him in practice and giving him a year to learn and play most minutes against 2nd unit players in year one. I think he will be a nightmare for us next year with bad effort. Hell he might be the best player in the yard in prison next year for all we know
  22. Fansided had a long article how ATL could make the Kawhi trade to LA work. There sce aries are below. I am curious what people think about the options they laid out. Option 1 Atlanta Hawks Receive: F Luol Deng – LAL C Mortiz Wagner – LAL 2022 Unprotected 1st round pick – LAL San Antonio Spurs Receive: G Dennis Schröder – ATL F Brandon Ingram – LAL F Kyle Kuzma – LAL 2019 1st Rd pick – LAL Los Angeles Lakers Receive: F Kawhi Leonard – SAS Option 2 Atlanta Hawks Receive: F Luol Deng – LAL G Lonnie Walker – SAS C Mortiz Wagner – LAL G Danny Green – SAS G Bryn Forbes – SAS San Antonio Spurs Receive: G Dennis Schröder – ATL G Kent Bazemore – ATL F Brandon Ingram – LAL F Kyle Kuzma – LAL 2019 & 2021 1st Rd picks – LAL Los Angeles Lakers Receive: F Kawhi Leonard – SAS G Derrick White – SAS I think the second one has too many moving parts to be pulled together. I just cant to ex ites over a 2022 pick in the first trade. I think Julius Randall could be a great fit for us. He was solid for LA last year but would have a marginal role on the new look Lakers and old easily start at the 5 for us. Would LA send him to us for taking Deng and maybe SAS send Lonnie Walker to us for Bazemore and or Dennis. I would love that trade. I know we could go after Randall as a RFA but if we can lock him up in a trade I would prefer that. All this is speculation and guess work but the article made plausible cases for the trades. What option of the three do folks like best for us or should we do nothing to make the Lakers a contender again?
  23. ThomasCredle


    Not a chance at the playoffs. We won't get anything back for Dennis. The front office already said they plan to use our cap space to bring on bad contracts for future picks. I feel confident that we will be in the bottom three teams in the NBA probably the worst. Heck we might get the commissioner threatening us like he did Philly that we are trying to be bad on purpose and the league will step in if we dont stop looking like a G league team. We won't sniff the playoffs again until 2020 if then.
  24. The Trey pick makes this draft just too hard to grade. We may get a real star player or a total bust. I like the 19 (wish Lonnie had still been there) and the 30. We are a much better shooting team so tonight I a think a B- because the Dallas pick should not be protected and this draft cant really be graded till we see what that pick becomes
  25. Yeah I think we will be lucky to get a 2nd round for Dennis. I think he has to go though I feel like he will be a total kicker room cancer next year and will do nothing to help Trey develop. He has to go maybe the bucks will give us some new bells and some athletic tape so Bud can get his boy back lol