marco102

@NBASupes You think ultimately that Ware will be a bust? 

13 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Effort

Motor

Poor screening

Injury concerns

Bulk

 

Out of all of these, bulk might be the only one feasible. 

 

Edey is a freak athlete for his size. Just because you don't acknowledge it doesn't mean it's not true

I agree with @KB21 here.  Poor screening can be coached.  What injury concerns has he had this year besides the ankle?  Bulk? he's pretty good size now at 7'0" 240 lbs.  Isn't that bigger than Capela as far as bulk?  

Motor and Effort are a concern, but he's improved those from last year.  Matter of fact he's improved a ton from last year which is why I'm high on him. 

I'm not low on Eddy just haven't really paid him any attention.  I watched Ware and he has something that I like (pause ). Can't really describe it, but the way he moves and defends made me really like him as a prospect.  The offensive upside and  has some good passing chops, makes him seem like a good fit with the team. 

38 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

My earlier post was before I had more prospects on the BB. 

My draft thread was this draft is weaker than the previous drafts. I didn't even look at upperclassmen yet. That's why this Edey thread came in February 

That's fine.  We can agree to disagree that he's a second round talent. He's one of the most talented big men in this draft of course that doesn't mean he will be the best but from a tools and skills stand point, I'd take him with the Sacramento pick if that conveys. If he's there in the second round, I'd take him there as well. 

32 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

You keep saying that, stop saying that ....THAT CANNOT BE A REAL THING THIS OFFSEASON.  Or it's another failed offseason.

We went into last offseason expecting changes: traded JC as a salary dump, signed Wes, drafted Kobe - - what we do this offseason, can't be along the same lines.

Lol don't blame me. Like you are with Ressler and the tax, they got to show.me before I start to believe again.

3 hours ago, Packfill said:

Ware and Missi are talented but need substantial development. I doubt either will crack an NBA rotation for at least a year and a half, and more likely two years, after being drafted. 

I agree. If no moves are made, he just fits the timeline. He can play with OO and Capela may still be around to show him the ropes. To me, he will be a Bruno replacement if no moves are made. The talent is undeniable just has to out it together.

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Both honestly should be 2nd rounders. Missi further away but he's also more likely to reach his potential. 

This contradicts you earlier post on Ware.

My favorite center is Kel'el Ware.  He has a lot to work on as far a feel for the game. motor and screening. 

To me he's the most talented center in this draft.  I'm looking for a two way center and he fits that mold better than any center in this draft in my opinion.

He can shoot, defend, and moves well.

Lol...I'm glad this season is done!  Hopefully, the Kings win and we get their pick.

Draft Cody Williams and Ke'lel Ware.

And trade the players who don't want to be here.

I really rooted for the Hawks tonight, but this is best for our future. We weren't winning any championships this year.

25 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

sorry @marco102.....

You're not sorry.

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Oooh, I can always go for some MLP action.  Some My Little Pony for @marco102.  Let him get in touch with his inner Bro-nnie (which apparently is a thing).

A pro-Celtics pic always causes indigestion for the user.  Or you could go really deep and dig up a famous Hawks draft failure or a Speedy Claxton tribute.

All in all, you got options.  Thanks for the consult.  I'll send you a bill.  Or you can just send me a blank check and I'll handle the rest. 

I can always go with the my little pony, but I will block @bleachkit if he makes me go pro Celtics!  I have some humanity man! 

35 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Give me him over a guy like Thybulle who, to me, is a one trick pony defensively. 

Done!

@bleachkit Trae's at 37.3% so what's my new profile picture?

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Well then don't expect this team to rapidly improve.

The Hawks need to get out of the mindset that all of our young players are going to develop into something special. You don't trade them for mid level talent. You trade them for star talent.

I'm not talking about the talent, I'm talking about roster construction.  You need a decent starting caliber PF, unless you somehow are keeping Clint and OO and KATs your PF? 

3 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

KAT being #7 all time in true shooting %, shows just how underrated that guy is.

If the T-Wolves blink this summer concerning the Luxury Tax, ATL better snatch him up.

 

And us coveting Jalen Johnson CANNOT be the reason why we don't make a deal for him.

Yes, it should be because who's our starting PF if you let Jalen go? You also have to look at this from a roster construction standpoint. I'm willing to part with Murray and filler for KAT.  That Filler shouldn't no include Jalen and at this point not Hunter either. 

With the way Bae and Dre are playing as of late, I'm not as interested in him.  However, the Hawks should consider him for off season addition to bump up the bench.

8 minutes ago, Mikey said:

They’ve had this interest dating back to him being in the draft. For the star they are trying to get in the summer they are gonna need dyson type player starting at the 2 

KAT

On 1/22/2024 at 2:20 PM, marco102 said:

Yeah, I'll believe we'll make a big trade once it actually happens. Until then it's just silly season as they say.

6 minutes ago, AHF said:

I have yet to see a Hawks fan who really wants him.

I haven't either. I was more responding to woj's "report".

19 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

If Quin truly said no to trading DJ, I am good with knowing that.

Reaves aint it at all. 

Why does anyone value him? His defense is worst than Trae's.  Trae's been adequate this season. I'm referring to previous seasons. 

24 minutes ago, Sothron said:

It is getting a little hard to read the game day threads because certain posters are so clearly enjoying the Hawks losing games. I don't want to give the mods extra work by going down that route but you know who you are. 

Blame Ressler for the mess we are in. Traded two starters in back to back offseasons just to save money. Refused to use a 25 million dollar TPE to bring in talent. Refused to use any of the MLE to bring in talent. 

This is the result of an owner too cheap to pay the LT. This team was built to work a certain way with normal NBA depth on the roster. We don't have that and as a result the team is losing games and is not a playoff team.

This is 100% on Tony Ressler. Messy Ressy indeed. Don't blame the FO or Quin or Trae or DJ or whoever else you want to blame. Blame the SEVENTH RICHEST OWNER in the NBA that won't pay money to even compete.

At this point, I'm okay with this team losing. They need to try and get the number 1 pick. This roster isn't going anywhere. Might as well draft Cody Williams and go after KAT in the off season. 

I've never seen a team not give a f**k on defense the way this team does. It's really terrible scoring 140+ and consistently losing. 

8 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I’d give up a squawkers pinky toe for Mikal! 

Just thought about it. I'm referring to Miles Bridges with Charlotte.  I don't think he'll get convicted of violation of his parole in his next court case from the bit of articles I've read.  

He will be cheap and he's productive! 

I do know about the domestic violence stuff, but it seems like there's more there if you read up on the actions of his ex. Not excusing it, just saying seems like he was in a toxic relationship with both of them abusing each other.