REHawksFan

"We've been doing this long enough to know that injuries are part of it and you've got to plan and prepare for that." Checks notes..... EIGHT NBA caliber rotation players on the roster this year - 3 of which are injury prone. SMH

Along these same lines, I put this chart together the other day after I saw a comment from @JayBirdHawk questioning the roster construction since the ECF run. I decided not to post it as after I made it I couldn't find the comment again (wasn't sure which thread it was in). Anyway, feel free to delete if it doesn't fit with your thread. So this chart shows the Top 15 Hawks players in Minutes Played and their respective PER. It shows each year starting with the ECF run. My idea was to chart the players in and out each year to see if the caliber of overall roster was improving or declining with the team transactions. I assumed it was declining but wanted to see it for myself. Instead, the chart sort of took on a life of its own. The color codes show red as "Below Avg" play (League average PER is 15), the yellow is "Above Average (PER between 15 and 20), and the green is the upper tier in the league which is above 20. The 20 benchmark was more of a feel on my part as the data suggests it reflects anywhere from 85th to 92nd percentile depending on the year. I did the same chart with WAR, PIE, WS, etc... but they all show the same general trends so I'll just post this one. The next to the bottom set of rows shows the total minutes in each category and the weighted average PER for those minutes. The bottom set of rows shows what % of the total minutes played is reflected in each category. I think there are several instructive things shown here. Trae and Clint are the top 2 players in PER every year which only underscores @NBASupes often mentioned opinion that the 5 is the biggest / most important position for Trae. Their success goes hand in hand. In the ECF year, the top 5 players by PER were in the top 7 of minutes played. Playing your best players the most minutes is a good strategy. The ratings for several players seem to decline each year. Solo - I miss the perceived benefit of Solo minutes The Green level of play goes from 22.7 to 23.7 to 22.0 to 20.5 this year. That means that this year, the top level players (again Trae and Clint) were just barely at the upper level. We basically had 5 above average players and 10 below avg players It's interesting to track the "Core" and then the "Others" each year. I forgot some of the "Others" were ever on the Hawks. LOL We go from 7 above avg / upper level players in ECF run to 5 the following year (excl Dieng) to 5 the next year to 6 this year but the PER ratings drop each year. I know there's not 1 stat the fully captures the complete impact of a player. I know DH has value to the Hawks above the "Below Average" rating shown in the chart. The question is how much? Anyway, I thought this might be an interesting way to look at the year over year trend for the Hawks in terms of roster construction. Also, for reference, here is the same chart for Boston this year just to show their player profile. Hint: there's a lot of yellow and green at the top.

Read the first few paragraphs. Not reading anymore of your nonsense. Have a nice day.

LOL You are completely ridiculous. Don't put words in my mouth in your quest to justify your own decisions. You apparently view your fandom as a transaction that exists only as long as it provides you with a return in the form of hope for success. I disagree with that viewpoint but I don't care that you hold it. I am mildly intrigued by the notion that others hold the same transactional view. I simply don't believe others think like that. At least not thise that would identify as fans of a team. Maybe others do though. Regardless, I answered your question honestly. I'd appreciate it if you refrained from mischaracterizing my viewpoint.

Still have Jalen who can handle the ball. And I think Kobe can be the backup pg. Do the Hawks have any ability to sign FAs? I'm assuming with their cap they can't sign anyone. Is that correct?

Like I said, I don't disagree with you (unless I'm misunderstanding what you are saying). I'm just saying I don't think Landry coming out and claiming that the two guys can work together will fool anyone. At least not to the point where it would outweigh a bidding war with multiple teams.

I agree with you in principle, but it sure seems like that ship has sailed. Everyone around the league knows it doesn't work. They have eyes just like the rest of us. I think the best we can all hope for is that the Hawks FO can convince teams that there are multiple teams interested in them and maybe that they are crazy enough to run it back if they don't get offers they like, although I'm not sure anyone would believe them.

Yeah....there's a MASSIVE difference between wanting to be traded and being a malcontent. Massive difference.

As always, I'd rather be me than you. I'd rather loved and lost than never loved at all. I don't consider my time invested as being wasted just because the team wasn't a success. I can't imagine a more hollow way to go about being a fan. Of course, I also can't imagine walking away from a team I've loved since childhood, whether I agree or disagree with the organization. I was born in Atlanta and raised as a fan of all Atlanta sports. What made the 60 win Hawks so much fun and then later the ECF Hawks so much fun was the experience of suffering through all the heartache and disappointment of bad ownership, terrible GMs, poor decisions, and just underachieving teams for years on end. I was born and bred a Georgia Bulldog. I suffered through 40 years of nothing (ranging from down right terrible to close but never enough) and then finally got to see my school win a title. And then another. The heartache makes the payoff so much better. So again, I have no interest in being a person that walks away from a team I love during the bad times. Which means clearly I'd rather be me than you.

Would also be the most Hawks thing ever.... Winning the lottery in the weakest top of the draft in 20 years. LOL

I think we gotta come to terms with the fact that ya boy Bruno ain't good enough for regular rotation minutes. Also, with who we had available, what is your answer to White? We don't have one. We desperately need an upgrade in the frontcourt. Desperately.

That's a pretty stupid statement.

Welp. F it. I guess our summer starts early. This sucks. I hate injuries. I hate roster construction. I hate Colby White.

That was stupid. And then no one gets back. I swear this team would be so much better if they just played smart and gave effort 100% of the time instead of doing stupid shit all the time.

Trae keeps feedin Dre. Dre keeps brickin

Well that's a factual statement. Trae play like shit in the 1st. Played better in the 2nd. Steven A also said he expects more from Trae because he knows how good he is. Unlike a lot of our "fans". As Richard Jefferson said, "The Hawks are going to need Trae's playmaking and scoring if they are going to win."

Literally doesn't matter what else happens in the game. All Traes fault to these yahoos.

And what kind of lineup is Trae Bogi Mo Bruno Garrison That just screams we want the lottery

SMH Just pathetic.

Need to withstand the early energy. As always, Hawks gotta hit their open shots.

Certainly seems like BI is on the outs

I screwed it up Jay, but I was trying to post this .gif. Sigh

https://giphy.com/gifs/mtv-captain-america-chris-evans-gif-10JhviFuU2gWD6 Umm......no.

Just imagine if Memphis or Toronto convince the Hawks they gonna take him at 7 or 8. Woo boy. We goin tradin baby!! LOL