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If I were running the Hawks I would continue to view Gueye as a developmental prospect and thus would have no expectation he takes over a rotation spot next season. If he forces his way in great but I am constructing my team with the understanding he may give me nothing next season - he did not look ready in his limited minutes this season.

In addition, OO goes up to $14 next year I believe.

To be clear, Hollinger himself is not saying to trade Trae, he is passing along what he has "heard". Whether what he has heard is credible is obviously open for debate. Personally, I find it is unlikely they trade Trae. Given that, I hope they move Murray because to me running it back makes no sense at all unless the goal is to be mediocre.

Caption of that video is misleading since it shows highlights from multiple seasons (Ivey is in some of those highlights).

Big difference playing against a team that plays defense versus whatever it is the Hawks do. Hawks have an uncanny ability to allow average players have career days.

Guys like OO and Hunter are very difficult to rely on because they get injured so often. JJ concerns me in that regard as well. And in OO’s case he isn’t even playing a starter workload. How can you rely on him to play 30 minutes a night. I would be totally fine with packaging OO with DJM to get a better return and fit around Trae. CC I see as having low trade value so hard to move him in a deal that impacts winning.

Coby White sure seemed to forget that. He had no fear shooting from distance or going right to the cup.

In my opinion they are both first rounders in this weak draft.

I agree. Quinn has had 100+ games to see this backcourt won’t work. Time to be proactive and fix this.

Ware and Missi are talented but need substantial development. I doubt either will crack an NBA rotation for at least a year and a half, and more likely two years, after being drafted.

Hawks need to make some major moves this off season. Rolling it back plus some draft picks will not change the results. The fact that Bufkin.and Mo can’t get run over third stringers is not a ringing endorsement. Call me a hater but I do not see the upside in this roster.

For some reason I was thinking Jalen Hardy (g-league alum and now on Mavs) versus Jaden Ivey. My bad.

Chet peaked in college? His rookie year says otherwise from my perspective. Unless I am wrong Zach and Edey are the only two of those guys who suited up for a U.S. college program.

My focus is on defense. Ideally I want a big and a big wing, at least one of which is ready to play as a rookie. Clingan is definitely a target but unfortunately I am expecting him to be gone before I get to make a pick. That said, I would be looking to move Murray in the off-season so the return on that trade may change what I do in the draft.

C+ for Quinn from me. Injuries is the only excuse. Outside of JJ I am not seeing the player development - all the other recent draftees have either been injured or otherwise have not evidenced definitively that they can be reliable rotation pieces going forward. Bruno, Vit and the Mathews will go back to being third stringers once everyone else is healthy.

I understand where you are coming from Quinn . . .

To me that is a draft high on upside and low on on court contributions for at least a year or two. If I was the Hawks GM I want one of those first rounders able to play from day one. Maybe that is asking too much from this draft.

So Hansbrough was not a better college player than 5th year senior Cam Johnson in your estimation? Hansbrough was player of the year and won a title for a reason. Also of note, that of the 4 UNC players drafted in Hansbrough's draft that year he had the shortest career of the bunch. And let us remember what Cam Johnson is - a decent rotation player with a nice outside shot and just enough defense. The Hawks could use him as an upgrade over Bey.

Plenty of collegiate all-americans and players of the year that have done nadda in the NBA. Two recent Wooden Award winners are Oscar Tschiebwe and Luke Garza. Or look back a few years at Frank Mason, Tyler Hansbrough and Jimmer Fredette. Looking at the list of winners - Kevin Durant's freshman year was nuts!

While I think this is a great win I do not view any individual game as evidence of any specific long-term trend. In saying that, I note that with or without Trae this team is mid - and has been for a few seasons now (basically since they lost in the ECF finals). I am hoping DJM's opportunity to play point in Trae's absence and the spike in his numbers help inflate his trade value so the team can move him in the off-season for a better long term fit next to Trae. I still think that trade has to happen to move this team to the next level. I wish I felt differently.

Great win.

If I were GM I would definitely be looking to move Murray in the off-season. I would also move Clint, but but I could only get negative value would move OO and draft a replacement (or get a replacement in a trade). I would also move Bogi before age craters his value if I believed Kobe or AJ are ready for a legit top 8 rotation role. I don't think a Trae and Murray back court gets us beyond mid unless one of our front court players develops into a superstar.

A win is a win. Hard for me to not look at this game through the lens of two teams decimated by injuries and limping towards the finish with losing records and think - whichever team gets a bench guy on a hot streak wins this game. Good that it was the Hawks bench tonight with Bruno and Garrison. I don't think either of those guys are rotation players on winning NBA teams though, more guys who are on the bench to play a role in the wake of an injury to someone ahead of them on the depth charts. Vit might have a chance of becoming a regular rotation piece if he can get some consistency on his outside shot.

I did not miss that. Holland is two years away, assuming he develops a reliable jumper, from being a useful rotation player. At that Clint and Horford are retired and the Hawks have no bigs and JJ’s new deal has them capped out.

You could make an argument that winning a championship would have a much bigger impact on the value of the Hawks as a franchise versus the Celtics (since they already have some "championship" shine on their valuation) and thus it would be more lucrative in the long run for Ressler to make a big push for a championship to increase his bottom line. Now, is Brown the right piece? He is absolutely, in my opinion, a move in the right direction but probably not enough, when coupled with Trae and what remains of the Hawks team, to get the Hawks over the finish line. Maybe if JJ takes his came up another level they could get there, but that is asking a lot. I would go all in for someone like Tatum to pair with Trae but probably not Brown (just like I would not have done the Murray deal as I do not see him as the right fit).