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18 minutes ago, KB21 said:

It's because "He's not 7-foot so he can't be a center."

It's not that, imho.  Honestly it's akin to why I devalue draft picks.  We don't have time to wait for them to be consistently impactful and reliable.  Same with OO.  He's showed stretches of impactful play but a strong argument can be made that we're too many years in to keep waiting to see it every night. 

1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:

OO has been adding range to his offensive game every year, he's switchable on defense, he has excellent defensive instincts, and he seems to want to be here -- why the hell would you guys want to trade him?  Everyone here constantly clamors for a stretch 5 and as soon as we have one that almost developed, we want to trade him?  Not to mention he's elite finishing around the rim, which should not be underrated for a center starting with Trae.  

 

All of the above does not even speak to the fact we have him on a ~$15M/year contract.  He will very likely be one of the best value centers in the league in the next 3 years.  Who would you guys rather have at center for $15M or less?  Holmes? Zubac? Wagner? Adams?  There is no one.  Also, OO didn't get to play in the physical defense second half of the season where he would have been thriving.  Selling on him now would be a huge blunder.

We all see all this, which makes us wonder why he's been so bad as his role increased.  We don't "want" to trade him but it may have to happen.

And, on his switchability, if he doesn't know when to be where it doesn't matter how switchable he is. 

34 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

So highest drafted is 7th or 8th best player on team?  No Bueno.

The folks clamoring for us to tank for higher picks need to take notice.  Draft-wise, we're the proverbial 10 year-old with a Lamborghini.  Don't know what TF to do with it anyways.

Suns stink. 

3 hours ago, AHF said:

As others pointed out, he got 6 votes out of the 572 players who logged minutes in the NBA this season.  It doesn't seem particularly meaningful.

And, per my unscientific study, 4.5 of those 6 dudes got nutmegged and subsequently crowned by their Insta-girlfriend. 

2 hours ago, theheroatl said:

Trying to convince me that Hollinger has sources is ridiculous and reaks of bias pushing by posters here looking for Trae to get traded.

Honestly I don’t care who gets traded but this team sucks big time at defense. But trying to tell me Hollinger is connected and more than just a columnist is fan fiction itself.

I'd say he should be considered more "connected" than some rando other writers.

However ... and it's a big but ... that doesn't mean this article is based on 'sourced' intel of any kind.  Frankly, it smells like he's just sharing his thoughts, not sharing his intel.

Thus the court determines this is drivel like all the rest.

Case closed.  The jury has spoken. 

10 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Like I've been saying . . . . the frontcourt is the issue folks.

"Nah, I'll just keep blaming the one guy that can get all-NBA votes.  Yeah, it must be his fault." - They 

11 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I was being facetious early doh I’m waiting for my car at the mechanic hence im wylin out for a min.

I made a nutty perimeter jumper fake and slash for a dunk with him on 2K yesterday! I love that quick foot big foot. 

Sorry, I got PTSD from a bunch of internet chatter about how we stink and need to trade everybody.  Smh 

And Naz Reid is awesome.  Hope MIN is dumb enough to trade him. 

Murray for Naz Reid+

- the Outsiders..... 

8 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I dunno but it wouldn’t end well  

Also, I miss real cartoons.  

1 minute ago, Spud2nique said:

DJ straight up for lil rugrat Cole! Who says no! 
 

He did clown Alice here I think so A+ on that. He’s a cocky lil fck. So is DJ though. Capstone would live that backcourt eh  

Trae and Cole. It’ll be quite the show.. OOOOHHHHH MYYYYYYYY -d*ck Enberg 

No ... just .... no, squd. 

19 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Good show too...catch it when you can.

Yep, that's what drove me to the books.  

We need an offseason thread about good shows, movies, etc to catch now that the NBA stopped existing. 

1 minute ago, Spud2nique said:

How dare you talk about my that way man you don’t even know nuttin @kg01 I was the man at UNLV I made grandmama and plastic man even though Anderson Hunt is the guy I was mistaken for in the draft…  G.A. #50 #94Knocks 

Tell your sun to cut them dreds too while we're at it.  That hairline backslidin' like a sinner in church.  

9 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Would you want Embiid? 

Don't think we have the assets to get him though. 

Heyul nawl.  Dude struggled, health wise, to get through his 20's.  I shudder to think what his 30's gonna look like.

3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I dunno but it wouldn’t end well  

Heh, maybe we shld do it then.  Torpedo the Mag. 

2 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

I don't have any issue with Brad so I thought it was fine. Tyler is just a fan of the Hawks. It's basically just 2 dudes talking about the Hawks roster and things that need to happen this offseason, in their opinion. Nothing earth shattering. 

If you are looking for any news or hard hitting journalism you are barking up the wrong tree with this. If you just want to hear two guys thoughts on how to make the Hawks better, it's fine.  

 

This was a good listen. Shout out to @JayBirdHawk for posting the links.

Interesting to hear some similarities to what we've all been talking about.  The glaring lack of wings and defense, in particular. 

Interesting, when talking draft centers, there was a glaring omission from potential targets they named.  I won't spoil it until hotSupes makes me mad, then I'll toss that grenade into the punch bowl. 

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The Magic offense .

They need a real PG and some shooting.

Screw em.  But hey, they got Col(d)e Anthony who some said was as good as the Hawks pg.  What the problem is?

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Screw em.

I hope they hire him.  Horcats stay doin Horcst things. 

2 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

I don't have any issue with Brad so I thought it was fine. Tyler is just a fan of the Hawks. It's basically just 2 dudes talking about the Hawks roster and things that need to happen this offseason, in their opinion. Nothing earth shattering. 

If you are looking for any news or hard hitting journalism you are barking up the wrong tree with this. If you just want to hear two guys thoughts on how to make the Hawks better, it's fine.  

 

That's what I figured.  If I want hard hitting journalism, I'll just go to the Edey thread and watch grown men call each other poopy heads or whatever. 

1 hour ago, Afro said:

This board has made me despise all center prospects because we can never talk about them reasonably. It's either "he's a bum" or "he's God's gift to basketball" lol. 

Every time lol. 

Yeah, at this point you gotta just enjoy the pillow fights from the sidelines.  Then, if they die down, instigate a little so it kicks back up.

Not sayin that's what I'm doing but .... I'm jussayin.  

15 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

Ayo burd, give us the bottom line.  Is this thing worth the listen?  I'm finishing up my Slow Horses audiobooks (spy novels) so I need something to listen to but I don't want my ears to bleed.  

6 hours ago, marco102 said:

Yup, I'm essentially replacing DJ with Miles Bridges and Isaac.

You don't have to get caught up on the protected first, if you think the magic will give us three firsts for DJ then think of it that way. I'm more looking at the players not the picks.

I wonder how much Pablo would want Murray there after all that clownin on him at that proAm years ago.

Also, I think your deal helps ORL more than us.  They could be a high level lead guard away from being something.

I always found it comical hearing people enamored with Suggs.  All their guards are backups or situational guys, including him.

1 hour ago, marco102 said:

Is he though? That defense is game changing and we need it.  I'd love to get two or three unprotected firsts in my trade, but trying to be realistic.  You don't always get what you want, but we are def improved.

Yeah man.  Any health from him is tenuous at best until proven otherwise.  Murray carries more value than that.  Your deal smells like a salary dump, honestly.  

13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Seems low: an oft injured guy who is limited to roughly 15mpg and I definitely don't like the protections on that pick. I'd also take Anthony Black.

Yeah @marco102 why you tryna give our stuff away for tha cheap?  Isaac is a distressed asset.  Better add some mo' stuff. 

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Not sure what it means, if anything.

Another potential sidebar to make note of here: Young continues to be represented by Klutch Sports — same as Murray — but league sources say Young’s father Rayford Young also recently secured formal NBA agent certification.

 

2 days ago – via marcstein.substack.com

Daaaang, my next outsiders update was gonna be Trae firing Klutch.  Marc Stein read my mind.  That's crazy.

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Speaking of gifs that remind us of one another.. well kinda.. my lady friend came in the kitchen last night with the same attitude and demeanor as usual, walked by me sitting on a stool minding my own and knocked my Hawks beanie right off my head and went about her biz. I think she reads squawk  

Me: the fck just happ..

@kg01 kinda confused here is this a “spud” or “hawks” thing. I’m gonna go with the latter! Yes honey , we all mad at this season but let’s keep our cool sheesh  

 

She read your mind, squd.  She seen them beach picks from a couple years ago.  

Confession time.

Sometimes I eat ice cream and drink coffee at the same time.

I dont know why I find it delicious.