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I definitely prefer the Patriot's management and coaching combination to our own. As an A's, Patriots, and Hawks fan the latter of the three is the hardest team to feel good about. I've spent the past two decades plus making excuses for a team that does not seem to know what they are doing. I'm all for letting the market set itself but at this point in the game we should just set the market with both the Josh's. They work their asses off and helped get us into the playoffs.

"If this organization was like the Steelers or Patriots fans would not get riled up because they know what to expect. The fans of those teams pretty much know they are tight with the wallet. The Hawks fans can only think of incompetence when the ASG is brought up. I wish this team had the structure the Lakers currently have. The comparison to the Lakers is not a good one to the Hawks. " The Patriots are not tight with the wallet. They spend up to the cap every single year just like the majority of teams do. What they don't do is overpay for players who are declining. They also believe in fielding a complete team top to bottom which means the top guys don't make as much as they could on other teams so the middle to bottom guys can make more than they would on other teams.

Didn't Chillz get special shoes made for him by Nike that helped him with his foot issues. Also, I remember BK sending him and Marvin for core strengthening for related issues. I don't think he is damaged goods and hopes he returns despite his desire to be a starter.

Quote: Quote: Dude this is the guy who told us that Brandan Wright was the most NBA-ready prospect last year. If he says so it must be true. I never EVER said that, the f#@k you putting bulls#*t words in my mouth. F#$king prick EDIT: Sorry for cursing you out, but don't ever put words into my mouth, especially when there dead wrong. Please elaborate on what you did say about B Wright because I too recall you going on and on about he is the best player to draft.

You never want change for the sake of change but in reality I feel Woodson has done a pretty poor job of player management. I don't want to rehash the season but after watching the Boston playoff series he really did utilize Bibby way too much. I mean Law should have gotten a ton more minutes just for his defense alone. Bibby was not shooting well and we already had Woodson's famous "Give the ball to Joe and stand around" offense implemented 75% of the time. Now I will say the young guys were not mentally sharp for Game 7 and won't put that on Woodson entireley but really he needs to have these guys ready to play. Limping into the playoffs and not winning clinching games says a lot to me. I know Marvin is a sore subject and I screamed at him way more than not during the playoffs but I can't help but feel the physical tools are there and he just needs a new coach to push him to the next level.

Why have we not made any adjustments? We still walk the ball up. Joe gets the ball and gets doubled and our bigs shoot long jumpers. Only Josh Smith is playing heads up. We should be getting into our sets faster. Joe take the double to either side and a guy flashes center for a quick pass for a 4 on 3 advantage. If the Celtics collapse the bigs need to dribble in instead of the long jumpers that are going unguarded. I HOPE WOODSON IS FIRED! This is not rocket science and is a replay of Game 5.

Wow. Rarely get to catch a Hawks game but man ZAZA sucks!. Are Shel Will and Solomon really worse than Zaza? ZAZA_____ZAZA

I like his game and think he works hard. He also fits with what Golden State likes to do. But why would they want to trade their top center for Josh Smith? Because they can't handle Utah and need someone who can muscle up with Boozer and Milsap. Now I'm not saying Smith is a rebounding monster but he can use his strength to bother Utah more so than Biedrens. Perhaps the soft euro comment was a bit harsh but at the end of the day I'd take Smith over Biedrens every time.

I don't think we should trade our young emerging star and the face of the franchise for another soft euro center. Biedrins also sucks at freethrows and his rebounding numbers are inflated with Golden State and the pace they play at. I much rather keep developing this year and pay Smoove his money and let Acie and Horford develop. STAY THE COURSE!

Man what a horrible time for this type of article. We are just about to release the hounds on a new NBA season and our captain is quoted as asking for help to succeed. On one hand I can totally understand. JJ was promised a second veteran option and that guy never showed up. Given Billy's desire to not take on bad contracts I can easily see why we didn't make a move. Maybe Billy felt speedy was that guy. I think all JJ is saying is he wants a Vince Carter, not a guy with the potential to be Vince Carter in three years. I still think Billy did the right thing and letting out young talent mature this year then resigning them is the FUTURE. I honestly think we are solid and wouldn't trade anyone save for SW, Speedy, and Lorenzen. Keep your head up JJ we about to take off on the league this year.

Marvin Williams did not do this, Marvin Williams did not do that, Marvin Williams studies too much, Marvin Williams doesn't focus on basketball...blah blah blah. Really I'm tired of all the Marvin William posts. Just let dude play and lets see where his talent takes him. Everyone wants all our picks to be superstars but in reality there aren't enough balls to go around if our starting five are all superstars. I'd love to have three scoring options and tough defense all around. If Marvin scores at 17 ppg or more we will make the playoffs center or not.

Quote: Quote: Horford simply is not an NBA center. I love ya, bro, but geez... I think you make the mistake of thinking if you say it over and over again that it will actually turn the frog into a prince... Please, there is no one that misunderstands your opinion at this point... And, no other new way for you to cast some new light or thought on your point... Just be satisfied that you've done your best to persuade, and at this stage, there's nothing more you can do, other than drive people away from your side of the argument, and for that matter, any future sides of any argument. I say that as a confessed offender myself in that realm. Okay??? ( ) Very well put Sturt. Maybe Diesel will take some of that advice and give Marvin a chance.

I like both picks since we couldn't pull off a Dwight Howard trade.

Quote: Quote: Nene, Daly, Milicic (resigned and traded), Camby, Biedrins, Bynum, even one of Seattle's 3 center prospects. W [/indent] Of that list I like Camby and Biedrins but don't think either can stop Duncan. Daly and the rest are UNPROVEN! I see no reason why a platoon of Horford and Shelden can not out muscle those guys in the post. They may give up a few inches but make up for it in strength. Utah's frontline should show you how size not necessarily height can be effective.

Quote: Please give Marvin a break. Its not like the kid is averaging 4pts a game. Marvin is averaging 13pts, 5rbs a game. He will be ok. Here is a thought. Lets see how Marvin plays next to a legitimate pure pg. That is the Hawks problem right now no one healthy enough to actually penetrate kick out or simply run an offense. Marvin is on schedule and if he stays healthy will average 17pts and 7rbs next season. Josh Smith takes too many bad shots, hopefully he gets a better shot selection or he will turn into God Forbid Antoine Walker. I'm in full agreement. I feel that a PG who can setup the offense and start the breaks will allow our players to find the correct spots on the floor to initiate offense from. A good PG will alleviate JJ's need to dominate the ball and Smith and Marvin can pick their spots. From what I've seen from the Hawks the guys are not selfish it's just that they don't have any idea where each other are on the floor. Part of that is poor coaching but I really think it's because our PGs, while serviceable, SUCK!. We really are a team in need of a good PG. On a side note, while I don't see the light on all the time with Marvin, i.e. being aggressive, I see a fabulous shooting stroke. I just think he needs some plays run from him and to get more lower body strength so he can defend players better.