NJHAWK Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 This morning he said his grandma was a " typical white person " because she gets worried when she see's black people walking down the same side of the street as her. If Clinton or McCain said anything like this they would be forced out of the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddielives Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I agree with one thing you said and disagree with another. Firstly, I don't believe what Obama said was racist at all, assuming he did say that. The term "racist" has been watered down to include remarks that are in fact not racist but rather prejudiced or bigoted. Racism is supposed to mean the belief in the genetic superiority of one race over another. This is hardly a definition that is used anymore as the term, as I stated earlier, has become more of a petty attack for those looking to evoke emotions out of another instead of having a meaningful and objective dialogue. Secondly, you are absolutely right that if McCain, or any non-leftist, white person had said that, they would be lambasted by the media without any hesitation. But that's the bias that only a fool would deny exists in the mainstream media. I can't say that Clinton would necessarily be treated as harshly as McCain but she would get some heat for it....but not NEARLY as much as McCain would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I think if almost any white person especially one running for president said the words so and so was a "typical black person", it would be very quickly labled as racist. I think had Hillary said this her campaign would be over by tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Admin edit: keep your stupid racist comments to yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murat Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Who cares this country is [censored] anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureGreatness Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 nobody cares. if a white man calls out a black man that "supposively" said something racist than that white person must not like that black person(im guessing your voting for clinton). black folks thinks everything unfair is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAhawkfan1 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 How is it a racist when he is speaking from personal expierence about his grandmother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted March 21, 2008 Moderators Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Quote: This morning he said his grandma was a " typical white person " because she gets worried when she see's black people walking down the same side of the street as her. What he said is: Quote: I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother -- a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe. These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love. Quote: The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. I don't think his statements are the same as your summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 What the typical American doesn't realize is - at the current cost-per-barrel of oil, Iraq is sitting on 25 TRILLION dollars worth of "known" oil deposits. 25 TRILLION! We can't let those goobers control that just because they were feeding their camels on top of it for a thousand years or so. Iraq has 3 to 4 times the oil that the USA has. We need that oil. Wars are generally fought over resources - we need theirs - and we have better guns so we take it - that's all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Thats true, he could have meant his grandma was afraid of Martians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Quote: How is it a racist when he is speaking from personal expierence about his grandmother I think when he uttered the words " typical white person " that included a shyyt load more folks than just his grandma. Unless his grandma is the only white person. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakast Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 And as we waste time with this foolishness......... - The war in Iraq continues - Gasoline prices are still making life difficult for the average American - The borders are still unprotected - The economy is still in a nosedive - And countless families don't have health insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHAWK Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Foolishness? I think its should be pretty important to know whether a man you are going to vote for for President is racist or not. Any way you slice it, this was a flat out stupid comment. This would be all over the news if McCain or Hillary said this toward black people. If it does get alot of pub its just going to put more doubt in peoples minds about Obama. I was hopeing the Dems would have a strong person running to make sure every last morsale of the BUsh administartion was removed and the country can start to dig ourselves out of the huge hole that idiot put us in. I have been skeptical of the hype around Obama because he mentions change but hasnt really revealed what he will do to change the country. He doesnt have a whole lot of experiance which may be a good thing. However if he gets the democratic nomination halfwit comments like he made today are only going to ensure us of another potential war monger in the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacsho Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 If your going to quote someone, you should utilize the whole quote. Not just the part that proves your point. Even though what you quoted does not prove sh*t. Anyone can put random one liners on here. I beleive that seems to be a pattern of yours. One should get their facts straight. If you want to know about Obama read his book. Go to his website and see where he stands on issues. Don't quote a 5 second sound byte, and then call someone racist. Stop being lazy and read his entire speech. Then you can stop this half azz reporting. Furthermore, lets keep this blog strictly basketball, at least until the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhay610 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Quote: If your going to quote someone, you should utilize the whole quote. Not just the part that proves your point. Yes please that is lazy. Without context a benign quote can seem inflammatory. Quote: Furthermore, lets keep this blog strictly basketball, at least until the season ends. actually the lounge forum is intended for topics outside of basketball. Since Obama is mixed, he has the best of both worlds. He can bang on either side of the equator and not be labeled a racist, right? Oh wait, I forgot he was drafted in the second round by the black race [(#1 overall: Tiger Woods) See Dave Chappelle's 'Racial Draft'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsinner Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Quote: Quote: This morning he said his grandma was a " typical white person " because she gets worried when she see's black people walking down the same side of the street as her. What he said is: Quote: I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother -- a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe. These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love. Quote: The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. I don't think his statements are the same as your summary. Actually, it's exactly like his summary without all the sugarcoating before or after. Here I'll show you... Obama Quote: she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction OP Quote: This morning he said his grandma was a " typical white person " because she gets worried when she see's black people walking down the same side of the street as her. What's the difference in the above two quotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Quote: This morning he said his grandma was a " typical white person " because she gets worried when she see's black people walking down the same side of the street as her. If Clinton or McCain said anything like this they would be forced out of the election. Jesse Jackson said something similar years ago. He said he was walking down the street in the dark and heard someone behind him. He looked to see who was there and, seeing it was a white guy, felt relieved. He called it one of the saddest days of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Obama has already addressed the racial issues in his speech earlier this week, he has no need to address it again. If you feel he is racist then don't vote for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 You haven't been a member here for long so you don't know the history but political threads have gotten seriously out of hand in the past and have at times been banned from discussion here. Politics and religion are the two things that can really set people off and if it gets out of hand we will of course have to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhay610 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Duly noted. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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