Admin Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Perhaps if Payne, Warren, Stauskas, and MCDermott are off the board. I would take him ahead of guys like Young and Anderson. I do not even pretend to know anything about foreign guys so I don't bother ranking them. I really like the idea of drafting Payne, since quality bigs are so expensive and hard to get in FA. Then we target a SF like Deng in FA. If we draft SF at #15 than I want Warren as my 1st option. Have you discussed in another thread why you don't like Young? I see @AmishBoy has him at the bottom of his list as well. I like Young and think he's got real star potential... although he could easily bust as well. The problem with Payne is where do you play him? He's a stretch 4 so I'm sure we could find a spot for him in our offense but that would mean moving Millsap to SF or having Payne come off the bench. I really want to get a starter for this year from this draft and I don't think Payne fits that mold. Plus there's questions about his lungs too and that's a concern. Generally not a big fan of 4 year guys either and he'll be 24 halfway through next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm really falling in love with Hood. The more I look at it the more I see him as the perfect fit for us. He has the size, tools, can obviously stroke the ball, fills a position of need or 2. SF/SG. He has 2 years of college experience, so he's got experience but also youth. And to top it off, he's a Dukie, which Ferry prolly loves. I have a feeling Hood goes anywhere from 9-14 but if he's there at 15 I hope we grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm really falling in love with Hood. The more I look at it the more I see him as the perfect fit for us. He has the size, tools, can obviously stroke the ball, fills a position of need or 2. SF/SG. He has 2 years of college experience, so he's got experience but also youth. And to top it off, he's a Dukie, which Ferry prolly loves. I have a feeling Hood goes anywhere from 9-14 but if he's there at 15 I hope we grab him. I can see there being a lot of interest in Hood as the next potential Paul George type of guy. One thing with Hood is he's got elite size for the position and he's not afraid to take the shot. Would have loved to have seen him be the #1 option on Duke without Parker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I can see there being a lot of interest in Hood as the next potential Paul George type of guy. One thing with Hood is he's got elite size for the position and he's not afraid to take the shot. Would have loved to have seen him be the #1 option on Duke without Parker. He's more Joe Johnson (with less ball-handling skills) than Paul George. He and Joe both possess the ability to stroke it from deep and the clear size advantage he has against other guards. Edited June 18, 2014 by ATLHawks3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 He's more Joe Johnson (with less ball-handling skills) than Paul George. He and Joe both possess the ability to stroke it from deep and the clear size advantage he has against other guards. I don't see the JJ comparison as JJ is significantly thicker and better at using his body to get space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I don't see the JJ comparison as JJ is significantly thicker and better at using his body to get space. I'm talking about the JJ way back in the day with PHX. They both played similarly then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha_MfkGSyhc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGc3f5f_Hw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm talking about the JJ way back in the day with PHX. They both played similarly then. There are similarities but even coming into the draft JJ was darn near 230 lbs, having a solid 20 lbs on Hood. Hood is over an inch taller and much more lean which is why I see the PG comparison. He's got aspects of both to his game but he's nowhere near the defender that either were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I still see Hood as a Rashard Lewis/Calbert Cheaney. I haven't heard anyone compare him to Calbert but they seem to be very similar. About the same height/weight, same body type, both lefties, both can stroke the ball. Calbert went 6th overall in the 93 draft, I'm still guessing Hood goes 10-14 pick. I just think Bud could do a lot with Korver on one side and Hood on the other. So many offensive sets it boggles my mind. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Kinda wish Calbert would stop hitting on younger girls though.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=3vX9BMIanQY Edited June 18, 2014 by Dolfan23 Embedded video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I still see Hood as a Rashard Lewis/Calbert Cheaney. I haven't heard anyone compare him to Calbert but they seem to be very similar. About the same height/weight, same body type, both lefties, both can stroke the ball. Calbert went 6th overall in the 93 draft, I'm still guessing Hood goes 10-14 pick. I just think Bud could do a lot with Korver on one side and Hood on the other. So many offensive sets it boggles my mind. We shall see. Calbert Cheaney now that's a name I haven't heard of in a while. I'd be pretty excisted if Hood had that type of a start to his career but certainly wouldn't want him ending his career the way Cheaney did. He just kinda fell off the map after this 3rd season and it went downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Calbert Cheaney now that's a name I haven't heard of in a while. I'd be pretty excisted if Hood had that type of a start to his career but certainly wouldn't want him ending his career the way Cheaney did. He just kinda fell off the map after this 3rd season and it went downhill from there. Ya Calbert had a lot of promise at the beginning of his career with the Bullets. I'm not sure why his career kinda derailed. Maybe it was when the Bullets traded for Cwebb and drafted Sheed, they went to big man ball. I think Cal meshed better wit googs the first couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Calbert was a 6'7" 209 lbs SG/SF. Hood is a 6'8" 220 lbs SG/SF. I just kept thinking he's a lot like a lefty Rashard Lewis but I know there was someone that he reminded me of a little more and that's when Cal came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_ Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 My list based who I believe can have early impact and fit for the Hawks.Doug McDermottGary HarrisTJ WarrenAdreian PayneKJ McDanielsNik StaukasRodney HoodJusuf NurkicKyle AndersonZach LaVineJames Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 The same question for our pick in the second round would be interesting although more difficult. Would love to see us move up into the top 10 of second round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 (With Nurkic included) 1. TJ Warren 2. Gary Harris 3. Jusuf Nurkic 4. Rodney Hood 5. Zach LaVine 6. James Young 7. Kyle Anderson 8. Adreian Payne 9. Nik Stauskas 10. Doug McDermott Kyle Anderson would be higher if I knew we had 2 first rounders. We don't need him playing point guard but as a small forward of some sort I think he'd be great if he can learn to be more physical. LaVine is a guy who I think, like a lot of other people also think, can be huge boom or bust. LaVine is very raw right now and has loads of athleticism & talent but can he put it all together? We'll see in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted June 21, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 My list as of 6/17/14 - honestly only the 1st three (plus Nurkic) are a real interest to me with the 15th. LaVine or Anderson would be in play if we had another 1st round pick in the lottery. James Young TJ Warren Rodney Hood Jusuf Nurkic* (added on by me to AJC list - could be my 1st choice if I were Ferry, pending scouting reports) Zach LaVine Adreian Payne (if he's a stretch PF then I could have some interest) Kyle Anderson Nik Stauskas (highest body fat among SG's that they listed, almost 12%) Doug McDermott (only 6'7 with a sad 6'9 wingspan) Gary Harris (too short) I don't know how Nurkic gets left off the list. If we're sitting at #15 and he's there, he's my guy. Tiers represent groupings of what I consider to be best player available--Tier 1 guys I think are destined to be borderline All-Stars in their prime, Tier 2 are plausible starters, and Tier 3 I feel there's too much potential for being at the end of the bench. If none of my Tier 1 guys are there, I'm content to go to Tier 2; if none of my Tier 2 guys are there, though, I definitely would look to trade down if i could get a legitimate offer. Tier 1 Jusef Nurkic... edges out Payne on basis of need Adreian Payne... been won over to him just in the last week b/c he has the reputation of someone who works to improve any weaknesses in his game Elfrid Payton... see him as a slightly taller version of Andre Miller who will be just as successful over his career, if not a little more Tier 2 Kyle Anderson... allows us to use shorter 2-guards--like Lou Williams and John Jenkins--to a greater extent Rodney Hood... think he will make some valuable contributions wherever he lands, but seems destined to be a run-of-the-mill SF, imo Doug McDermott... would be at the top of this list if we didn't have Korver or Millsap because he's somewhat of a combination of those two Tier 3 Nik Stauskas... nudges out LaVine because of his higher floor, though, yes, lower ceiling Zach LaVine... just doesn't impress me, though I have to leave room for the possibility that it was just that UCLA's coaching staff didn't use him effectively, so I give him an edge over Young James Young... In Bill Parcells-speak, he's "just a guy"... I see him as someone who's talented and will be on an NBA roster for awhile but reminds me too much of DerMarr Johnson TJ Warren Gary Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted June 21, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Calbert was a 6'7" 209 lbs SG/SF. Hood is a 6'8" 220 lbs SG/SF. I just kept thinking he's a lot like a lefty Rashard Lewis but I know there was someone that he reminded me of a little more and that's when Cal came to mind. I'm seeing Hood listed at 208, Spud, at both NBAdraft.net and DraftExpress. (Warren is listed at 220, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimaskway23 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 <p> My list based who I believe can have early impact and fit for the Hawks.Doug McDermottGary HarrisTJ WarrenAdreian PayneKJ McDanielsNik StaukasRodney HoodJusuf NurkicKyle AndersonZach LaVineJames Young that list is hideous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted June 21, 2014 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Have you discussed in another thread why you don't like Young? I see @AmishBoy has him at the bottom of his list as well. I like Young and think he's got real star potential... although he could easily bust as well. The problem with Payne is where do you play him? He's a stretch 4 so I'm sure we could find a spot for him in our offense but that would mean moving Millsap to SF or having Payne come off the bench. I really want to get a starter for this year from this draft and I don't think Payne fits that mold. Plus there's questions about his lungs too and that's a concern. Generally not a big fan of 4 year guys either and he'll be 24 halfway through next season. I agree that it sets up a likelihood of moving Millsap, but I see that as already a high likelihood because of Millsap's contract. I want a guy who will compete for a starting position in his first year, because that bodes well for his career, but I'm less concerned about him actually being a starter. I think of how Kevin McHale played behind Cornbread Maxwell all those years. I just think the BPA philosophy inherently means thinking long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q45T Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 My list: 1.) James Young 2.) Zach Lavine 3.) T.J. Warren 4.) Rodney Hood 5.) Nik Stauskas 6.) Doug McDermott 7.) Adreian Payne 8.) Kyle Anderson 9.) Gary Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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