Sap is gone to Denver

[615Hawk]

At least we have Kent Bazemore on a reasonable deal

[Plainview1981]

3 minutes ago, KB21 said:

LOL!

That's what all these teams think that are on the lottery treadmill, and instead of getting LeBron and Curry, they get Anthony Bennett and Ben McLemore.

Well, the Hawks haven't hit the lotto and they drafted Dennis and Prince. How many want to bet on those two leading the Hawks to a title?

[yungsta]

Just now, Hotlanta1981 said:

They got almost nothing for the 60 win team. Prince is barely better than nothing.

Keeping that team together wasn't financially possible and that team wasn't all that good to begin with. All of our players end up getting overpaid because our system made them look better than they actually were.

Teague is now making nearly 20 Mil per year.

Carroll is making 15 mil to sit on the bench and limp around in Toronto.

Horford is making nearly 30 mil per to put up role player production.

Millsap is now making 30 mil per at 32 year old with knee issues.

Korver at 36 years old is still demanding multi year deals.

Keeping that team together would easily put us at the highest payroll in the league and we would still get swept by Cleveland every year.

[KB21]

1 minute ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

Well, the Hawks haven't hit the lotto and they drafted Dennis and Prince. How many want to bet on those two leading the Hawks to a title?

I'd rather bet on that than this stupid, illogical strategy that believes you should get very bad to be very good.

[Plainview1981]

2 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I'd rather bet on that than this stupid, illogical strategy that believes you should get very bad to be very good.

Well, you got it. Enjoy it. 99% of the NBA community will continue to laugh at this team.

[DBac]

We got a good chunk of change to spend now and a lot of roster spots to fill out. Who are we going after?

[Plainview1981]

4 minutes ago, yungsta said:

Keeping that team together wasn't financially possible and that team wasn't all that good to begin with. All of our players end up getting overpaid because our system made them look better than they actually were.

Teague is now making nearly 20 Mil per year.

Carroll is making 15 mil to sit on the bench and limp around in Toronto.

Horford is making nearly 30 mil per to put up role player production.

Millsap is now making 30 mil per at 32 year old with knee issues.

Korver at 36 years old is still demanding multi year deals.

Keeping that team together would easily put us at the highest payroll in the league and we would still get swept by Cleveland every year.

You have to get something for some of these players. All they got was Prince... Who is barely better than nothing.

[Vol4ever]

Tanking never works!  

[Vol4ever]

Just now, DBac said:

We got a good chunk of change to spend now and a lot of roster spots to fill out. Who are we going after?

Get ready to watch NBDL players in Atlanta.

[sturt]

Not sure what is more attractive about DEN sending us pieces that we don't actually consider valuable, just so we can say we "got something."

But in fact, it's essentially the same question as would you rather have $20,000 at your disposal to spend as you wish, or would you rather have a used truck valued at $10,000 plus $10,000 at your disposal.

I'm quite content, obviously, with having the cap space to use.

[yungsta]

2 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

You have to get something for some of these players. All they got was Prince... Who is barely better than nothing.

I agree with that.

you can blame BudCox for that.

Edited July 3, 2017 by yungsta

[hazer]

EggZACKLY the nimber I said the Hawks should spend on him, 3 and 90...

[Plainview1981]

3 minutes ago, yungsta said:

I agree with that.

you can blame BudCox for that.

I blame them all. Schlenk is more of what we've had. You just watch. That putz ain't leading this team anywhere.

[Plainview1981]

Good for Sap though. He got the hell out of dodge to a better franchise like Horford did. Smart fellows.

[DBac]

To be fair to management, getting a first rounder for Korver was/is great. Teague for Prince/Getting Dennis minutes is fine. They couldn't keep Millsap and Demarre and made the better choice by far. 

 

Where they really blew it was going after Dwight last year and losing Al. Not just because of the on court product, but because losing Al mean't that they couldn't trade Millsap for assets which would've smoothed out the rebuild a bit. The next biggest mistake was moving Kyle and then keeping Millsap (even vetoing a deal). Now they've lost their two best players for nothing in consecutive years. 

On the bright side, Schlenk stayed strong and stuck to his word. That deal was easy to beat, yet we didn't even get a whisper of interest from ATL. Schlenk has a big mess to clean up though.

Edited July 3, 2017 by DBac

[Plainview1981]

3 minutes ago, DBac said:

To be fair to management, getting a first rounder for Korver was/is great. Taurean for Prince/Getting Dennis minutes is fine. They couldn't keep Millsap and Demarre and made the better choice by far. 

 

Where they really blew it was going after Dwight last year and losing Al. Not just because of the on court product, but because losing Al mean't that they couldn't trade Millsap for assets which would've smoothed out the rebuild a bit. The next biggest mistake was moving Kyle and then keeping Millsap (even vetoing a deal). Now they've lost their two best players for nothing in consecutive years. 

On the bright side, Schlenk stayed strong and stuck to his word. That deal was easy to beat, yet we didn't even get a whisper of interest from ATL. Schlenk has a big mess to clean up though.

Didn't that first rounder get traded down for the 41 pick? Which is basically worthless.

[DBac]

Just now, Hotlanta1981 said:

Didn't that first rounder get traded down for the 41 pick? Which is basically worthless.

Huh? The second rounder that got traded down was from Brooklyn from the Joe Johnson trade. The Cavs pick is in 2019 and top 10 protected, which looks better by the day as Lebron looks more likely to leave. Just gotta hope Kyrie can carry them lol.

[sturt]

8 minutes ago, yungsta said:

10 minutes ago, Hotlanta1981 said:

You have to get something for some of these players. All they got was Prince... Who is barely better than nothing.

I agree with that.

you can blame BudCox for that.

 

Disagree completely.

This meta-analysis approach just isn't valid. Each transaction stands on its own as valid or invalid.

Teague?

Valid

DMC?

Hands were tied. Valid.

Korver?

Valid (... btw, don't forget there's a draft pick there... it was left out)

Horford?

Valid... we made him a completely reasonable offer that was going to pay him more money, but ultimately conventional wisdom says we lost him b/c we gambled on Dwight and Horf wasn't okay with that.

Millsap?

Invalid... I believe I have plenty of company in saying we have a new GM today b/c it was determined after the season that a huge opportunity was missed in moving Sap at the deadline, if not before.

Four out of five, the more reasonable... or in DMC's situation, the only... choice was what went down.

 

[Vol4ever]

Ol GM Slick better have something good up his sleeve or there will be a revolt. 

[Diesel]

We couldn't do better than 2 years 60 Million?  For Paul Millsap who played hard for us for a long time..