The Tank Thread

[KB21]

11 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

I have to agree now with @KB21
...The Hawks are tanking. Heard it strait from Dominique!

[Brotha2ThaNite]

4 hours ago, KB21 said:

ROLMAO!!!

[JayBirdHawk]

This topic - instant classic.

Will Herr Dockterr be back to face the music?

[hazer]

Oh, the horror. The horror

[Spud2nique]

[Lurker]

It took a while for it to get going, but from about mid December through the end of the season, the 18/19 Hawks was about as fun as a "bad" team could be.

[Atlantaholic]

I have to admit that the main reason I donated to bring back the Squawk was to check back on this thread lol

[Thomas]

Believe Travis Schlenk is winning this thread.

[thecampster]

At the expense of receiving a perma-ban. Reviving this one so people can see the stupid things they said pre/post draft last year.  Check your own posts before dumping on others.

[NBASupes]

2 minutes ago, thecampster said:

At the expense of receiving a perma-ban. Reviving this one so people can see the stupid things they said pre/post draft last year.  Check your own posts before dumping on others.

The doc had one line of thinking and was stubborn as an ox.

[Spud2nique]

14 minutes ago, thecampster said:

At the expense of receiving a perma-ban. Reviving this one so people can see the stupid things they said pre/post draft last year.  Check your own posts before dumping on others.

I’m clean 🧼 

11 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

The doc had one line of thinking and was stubborn as an ox.

He back yet?

[Atlantaholic]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m clean 🧼 

He back yet?

He'll never be back. He staked his entire identity on this board on the indisputable "fact" that Schlenk is an idiot and a tanker, and already after less than a season it seems like those two assumptions have been completely put to rest. If we brick next years draft, Trae and Collins fail to progress, and Hawks end up finishing in the lottery again, THEN you might see the guy pop his head back up again. 

[AHF]

51 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

He'll never be back. He staked his entire identity on this board on the indisputable "fact" that Schlenk is an idiot and a tanker, and already after less than a season it seems like those two assumptions have been completely put to rest. If we brick next years draft, Trae and Collins fail to progress, and Hawks end up finishing in the lottery again, THEN you might see the guy pop his head back up again. 

I don't put it past him to show up, admit he was wrong briefly before returning to still claim he is right about Schlenk and is generally infallible.  That is what he did after his colossal misses the prior year.  

2017-18 KB Philly Predictions

76ers Predicition #1:  They are tankers and tanker never win.  They won't have a winning record.  Proven wrong as they win 51 games.

76ers Predicition #2:  They may have a winning record but their tanking poisoned the franchise and they won't make the playoffs.  Proven wrong as they get the #3 seed.

76ers Predicition #3:  Their tanking made them so soft they will will get swept in the first round.  Proven wrong as they beat Miami 4-1.

....

KB in 2018-19:  I'm never wrong.  The Hawks are loser tankers and won't win 20 games.

 

Not owning up to being wrong about tanking is his thing.

[thecampster]

On 3/4/2018 at 4:37 PM, terrell said:

No team(including Memphis) is beating GS anytime soon.(perfect time to rebuild) Boston has a slight chance though  BECAUSE OF THOSE 3 LOTTERY PICKS PLAYING WELL..

Ouch....well is 15 months later considered "any time soon"?

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Atlantaholic said:

He'll never be back. He staked his entire identity on this board on the indisputable "fact" that Schlenk is an idiot and a tanker, and already after less than a season it seems like those two assumptions have been completely put to rest. If we brick next years draft, Trae and Collins fail to progress, and Hawks end up finishing in the lottery again, THEN you might see the guy pop his head back up again. 

What a  

[Thomas]

Oh, lets not leave out the I'll draft Caleb Swanigan anywhere in the lottery because his physical game with translate to the pros as a starter and possible All Star.

[AHF]

This is what the rebuild was all about.  Tanking doesn’t guarantee success or failure.  Like any strategy, it takes luck and execution.  But this is what it was all about.

By tanking we picked up high draft picks with the goal of drafting a difference-making true star and strong, young, cheap talent.  Look what that strategy wrought.

Key Draft Picks

Pick #1 - John Collins - 23 and 15 last night with a spectacular highlight dunk off the backboard, a key three down the stretch and grinding where the team needed it to steal the rebounding margin from the regular season top rebounding team.  
 

Pick #2 - Trae Young - Superstar.  What more is there to say?  This is the franchise player you dream about getting.  Would never have gotten him by a bunch of first round exits.

Pick #3 - Kevin Huerter - Why are the Hawks here in the ECF?  Huert picked up this team, dined on Curry and carried this group past the Sixers in game 7.  Been up and down with his scoring but pretty steady in terms of his defense, passing and floor spacing (opponents respect him regardless of whether he is hot or not).

Picks #4&5 - Hunter and Cam have been on the sidelines.  We miss them badly.  Get healthy guys.

Pick #6 - Okongwu - Gave us key minutes to help us beat the Sixers.  Has been high energy and defensively sound over his rookie year.  With his length and quickness he shows a ton of promise for the future but even as truncated as his early season and college career were, he is still making a difference for this team.

Impact of Rookie Contracts and Another First Round Pick

Because the team built around cheap, young players they were able to add key, quality depth.

Capela - 12 and 19 last night to combine with JC to rock the Bucks on the boards.  Has been transformative for our defense and a key target for Trae on offense.

Bogi - Hurt right now but still scrapping for deflections and making an impact where he can even when he is limping. We’ve seen he can be a difference maker on offense.  We are surviving on the wing in these playoffs by sheer depth and Bogi is leading the team in +/- in the playoffs perhaps speaking to how much trouble we would be in if we had to go to our end of the roster alternatives.

Gallo - Our cap space let us go out and sign a key floor spacer and wily vet to play behind JC and Cap.  A team like we had with Millsap, THJr, Dennis, etc. can’t afford a player like him.  It is purely a product of the type of rebuild we pursued that gave us the luxury of adding an impact player like this.

This is what it was all about.  

Thank you for the patience Mr. Ressler and for the hand on the wheel Mr. Schlenk.  We have not only an exciting, talented group of basketball players but also what seems to be a team of good men who watch out for and root for each other.  Who care about the team more than their own egos.  

This is a special team.  This is what it was all about.

 

[Jdawgflow]

6 hours ago, AHF said:

This is what the rebuild was all about.  Tanking doesn’t guarantee success or failure.  Like any strategy, it takes luck and execution.  But this is what it was all about.

By tanking we picked up high draft picks with the goal of drafting a difference-making true star and strong, young, cheap talent.  Look what that strategy wrought.

Key Draft Picks

Pick #1 - John Collins - 23 and 15 last night with a spectacular highlight dunk off the backboard, a key three down the stretch and grinding where the team needed it to steal the rebounding margin from the regular season top rebounding team.  
 

Pick #2 - Trae Young - Superstar.  What more is there to say?  This is the franchise player you dream about getting.  Would never have gotten him by a bunch of first round exits.

Pick #3 - Kevin Huerter - Why are the Hawks here in the ECF?  Huert picked up this team, dined on Curry and carried this group past the Sixers in game 7.  Been up and down with his scoring but pretty steady in terms of his defense, passing and floor spacing (opponents respect him regardless of whether he is hot or not).

Picks #4&5 - Hunter and Cam have been on the sidelines.  We miss them badly.  Get healthy guys.

Pick #6 - Okongwu - Gave us key minutes to help us beat the Sixers.  Has been high energy and defensively sound over his rookie year.  With his length and quickness he shows a ton of promise for the future but even as truncated as his early season and college career were, he is still making a difference for this team.

Impact of Rookie Contracts and Another First Round Pick

Because the team built around cheap, young players they were able to add key, quality depth.

Capela - 12 and 19 last night to combine with JC to rock the Bucks on the boards.  Has been transformative for our defense and a key target for Trae on offense.

Bogi - Hurt right now but still scrapping for deflections and making an impact where he can even when he is limping. We’ve seen he can be a difference maker on offense.  We are surviving on the wing in these playoffs by sheer depth and Bogi is leading the team in +/- in the playoffs perhaps speaking to how much trouble we would be in if we had to go to our end of the roster alternatives.

Gallo - Our cap space let us go out and sign a key floor spacer and wily vet to play behind JC and Cap.  A team like we had with Millsap, THJr, Dennis, etc. can’t afford a player like him.  It is purely a product of the type of rebuild we pursued that gave us the luxury of adding an impact player like this.

This is what it was all about.  

Thank you for the patience Mr. Ressler and for the hand on the wheel Mr. Schlenk.  We have not only an exciting, talented group of basketball players but also what seems to be a team of good men who watch out for and root for each other.  Who care about the team more than their own egos.  

This is a special team.  This is what it was all about.

 

And with Capela we were able to use a bad contract and mid first to pick him up.  Still can’t believe they did that trade

[Final_quest]

Tanking is never a guarantee, but it gives you a chance to land a Trae Young level talent.  

Additionally, I have a bizarre fascination with a mind that can turn literally every thread and every comment into a discussion on how tanking will never work.  Can't locate the quote but it goes something like this, "Many arguments are won by the sheer velocity and volume of words."  A tireless effort that ultimately failed in this case.  

[kg01]

Hey whoa, whoa, whoa ... we bumpin' threads from 2018 now?

Isn't that against the rules or somethin'?  If it's not, it should be.

Somebody put a rule in place ... before somebody starts lookin' into who did or did not want the Hawks drafting Trae.

Of course, I got nothin' to worry 'bout.  Is it hot ... in here?