StephenHawking Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 vor 7 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte: If you say so, but you can't keep burying your head in the sand. Which part is fake? This.... Or just the part about them trying to trade him? I really don't get why hawks beat writers, reporters and newspapers always tend to stir something as negative as possible. I mean isn't their job to attract more people to the Hawks market and additionally spread news to better the value and negotiation situation of the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 16, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: Still its fake news. There have been more credible reports out mentioning that there is a market for Dennis. The issue why he's still here is that ressler and the fo value him higher than the market. Please post the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenHawking Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 vor 1 Minute, JayBirdHawk sagte: Please post the links. I'm with my phone and it's a pain in the a** to look for it and copy and paste it. I'm pretty sure it was Shams who reported it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 16, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: I really don't get why hawks beat writers, reporters and newspapers always tend to stir something as negative as possible. I mean isn't their job to attract more people to the Hawks market and additionally spread news to better the value and negotiation situation of the Hawks. I do agree that they do tend to slant more negative, but please post your lonks on what the general consensus is regarding Dennis' value around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 16, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: I'm with my phone and it's a pain in the a** to look for it and copy and paste it. I'm pretty sure it was Shams who reported it. When was this? How long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 This team, as it is currently constructed, wouldn't win 35 games if they played two seasons, much less one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Peoriabird said: Didn't Larry Drew take his team to the playoffs as a rookie coach? Bud did the same thing as a rookie coach right? Drew and Bud were actually qualified to be head coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: I'm with my phone and it's a pain in the a** to look for it and copy and paste it. I'm pretty sure it was Shams who reported it. It sounds like you could be misconstruing something you read. Dennis is pretty toxic right now and I say that as a Dennis fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 25 wins . . . You still have to play defense in the league to win games. As constructed, I don't see how there's any way we're not a bottom 5 team defensively. Baze is our best defender. And no one fears Baze, when he's guarding them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 If they trade Dennis for scraps . . 18 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenHawking Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 vor 17 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte: I do agree that they do tend to slant more negative, but please post your lonks on what the general consensus is regarding Dennis' value around the league. vor 15 Minuten, JayBirdHawk sagte: When was this? How long ago? Like yesterday I guess. Definitely recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenHawking Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It's actually the top post on the Hawks reddit vor 7 Minuten, kg01 sagte: It sounds like you could be misconstruing something you read. Dennis is pretty toxic right now and I say that as a Dennis fan. No I totally got that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: It's actually the top post on the Hawks reddit No I totally got that right I think you're misconstruing. Nowhere in that story does it suggest there's a fervent market for Dennis. This is all it says about him ... Quote As Young takes the reigns as the Hawks’ point guard of the future, Dennis Schröder’s future will come into question more and more as the offseason continues. There has been pressure for the Hawks’ management to ensure value arrives in a Schröder trade, and the franchise simply won’t trade below his value. Atlanta lost dependable shooter Marco Belinelli via contract buyout during the season without receiving a return before the trade deadline. Center Dewayne Dedmon has also emerged as a veteran player who could attract interested suitors. https://sports.yahoo.com/trae-young-shaking-off-early-summer-league-demons-step-franchise-star-role-135407432.html To trade Dennis right now, we would have to add an asset. That's an untenable situation and totally explains why they haven't traded him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 16, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 hours ago, kg01 said: Agreed. Also, why didn't you just name yourself 'strut'? (Coulda sworn we had a "where'd you get your username from" thread around here somewhere, but maybe not.) The skinny: Directed boy scout camp years ago, and when my staff discovered my other name, they slurred the middle part. For whatever reason, it came to me the first time I was ever asked to list an internet username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenHawking Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 vor 4 Minuten, kg01 sagte: I think you're misconstruing. Nowhere in that story does it suggest there's a fervent market for Dennis. This is all it says about him ... https://sports.yahoo.com/trae-young-shaking-off-early-summer-league-demons-step-franchise-star-role-135407432.html To trade Dennis right now, we would have to add an asset. That's an untenable situation and totally explains why they haven't traded him yet. Ok well I imply that, by saying that the value in the offerings is not right so far, there are a couple of interested teams. To what extent the value differs is certainly a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 17, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: Which part is fake? This.... The part that states teams don't spend that much on point guards. There are at least 10-12 teams that spend as much or more on their point guard position as the Hawks do. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Quote A lot of people projecting us to finish in last place but I really think 35 wins or more is possible Drugs are bad, mmmkay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, kg01 said: To trade Dennis right now, we would have to add an asset. That's an untenable situation and totally explains why they haven't traded him yet. Yep. I am betting Travis trades Dennis and a first for nothing, just to get rid of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 17, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, KB21 said: Drew and Bud were actually qualified to be head coaches. Didn't Drew get fired from his next gig or did he get another gig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 17, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, StephenHawking said: Ok well I imply that, by saying that the value in the offerings is not right so far, there are a couple of interested teams. To what extent the value differs is certainly a different question. I get that the Hawks are looking for value and they should. Unfortunately, Dennis' defense and 3 pt shot tanked his value on the court (some of that having to do with the make up of the roster). He also tanked his value with his pending assault charges. 20 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: The part that states teams don't spend that much on point guards This..."Schröder will make $15.5 million next season and no team wants to use $29 million of cap space on point guards, especially not the rebuilding Hawks. " So because of this, the entire article is fake news? Look around the League, most teams are set at PG so a team trading for him that already has a highly paid PG will not want a backup for $15.5 mil. Orlando and Phoenix being the exception. 8 minutes ago, bird_dirt said: Yep. I am betting Travis trades Dennis and a first for nothing, just to get rid of him. That would annoy me. Al gone - nothing, Milsap gone - nothing, add Dennis - nothing? That's just crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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