NBASupes Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Watched the Hunter 2k vid, hyped. Edited August 16, 2019 by NBASupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, hazer said: As a lifelong photographer (high school and college newspapers, local college rags, photography minor, etc) let me start by saying Cam is in the foreground and Slay is in the background. As such, Cam “appears” to be about 2 inches taller than him. Put them side-by-side, that perspective illusion would be corrected to what would probably be only 1 inch taller. Slay being 6’8 in shoes would put Cam around 6’9. Zion and Cam are standing essentially the same distance from the camera and Cam looks 2 inches taller than him. Zion being 6’7 in shoes would put Cam around 6’9. If Cam is 6’9 210lbs with a 7’1 wingspan right out of college at 19 years old, damn son. With the versatility to play the 3, some 2, and a little 1, PSSSH! Here’s my theory: the core muscle and groin surgery to correct his nagging injuries improved his posture and height by an entire inch. Not unheard of. My 19 year old son has 1 vertebrae slightly twisted from a dirt back accident. He goes to a special chiropractor who adjusts it back into alignment once every few months and he gains back about an inch every time just from posture correction. Once again, dope ass post. I just don't think it's all posture based. He had good posture in the Draft day picks but he clearly gained at least 1 to 1.25 inches. He looks much taller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Once again, dope ass post. I just don't think it's all posture based. He had good posture in the Draft day picks but he clearly gained at least 1 to 1.25 inches. He looks much taller. Then it’s possible his growth plate cartilage hasn’t hardened into solid bone yet and he’s still growing. That’s rare, and when it happens usually lasts until about 20. I grew until about 20 as well, although I’m only 5’10. Good god man, if Cam’s growth plates are still active he could reach 6’10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 hours ago, NBASupes said: Why? Jamal was a bucket. Instant scorer especially in space. Volume scorer. I mean, he was fine for what he was.... A 6th man volume scorer one trick pony... But I hope Cam can do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, hazer said: Then it’s possible his growth plate cartilage hasn’t hardened into solid bone yet and he’s still growing. That’s rare, and when it happens usually lasts until about 20. I grew until about 20 as well, although I’m only 5’10. Good god man, if Cam’s growth plates are still active he could reach 6’10 I grew an inch from Freshman year to sophomore year as well after being 6'3 w/ shoes for all of HS. My best friend went from 6'1 to 6'3 in the same summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said: Volume scorer. I mean, he was fine for what he was.... A 6th man volume scorer one trick pony... But I hope Cam can do better. That's kinda what he is on the ball. Off the ball he has movement skills which Jamal obviously never had. Even has a prong, agility which is critical to his half court game. The high end variance shooting 3s is probably his best offensive value that translate instantly. Jamal didn't have a translatable skill coming out and ended up in the WOAT situation as a rookie as well which didn't help. He has the body and fluidity of McGrady. Athleticism of Lonzo Ball on both ends. His defense reminds me most of Lonzo Ball but more advanced at this stage than Ball out of UCLA. Obviously, he is taller. 6'8-6'9 and 210 which he looks by my eyes bigger than that already. Looks 215ish. Looks to have gained some muscle recently. Seems like he has been in the facilities putting in works with Hunter and Bruno. They all look great. Especially Hunter. My gawd! @Plainview1981 I liked Jamal's on ball ability. It was better than Joe's. Joe was better obviously v. Set defenses and defensive gameplans but Jamal in space was unstoppable. I remember he just was more consistent because you couldn't guard him, especially when he got hot. Joe was better for points per possession but when Jamal was in the right situation, he was lethal. Iso Joe was down right freakish v. Set defenses 1v1. His issue was he had the same struggle with double teams as Kawhi without the athleticism needed to get space for himself which Leonard had. Joe also was a on ball playmaker. If I could add Joe to the modern era, I would. He fits. If Joe could get to any spot on the court like Leonard and Jordan, he would have been an ATG. He is still is a HOFer to me. Edited August 16, 2019 by NBASupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted August 16, 2019 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 10:43 AM, marco102 said: You shouldn't expect any draft pick to live up to their lofty expectations. They just use them as comparisons because that's what most casual fans know. The one thing that should tell you everything you need to know about Cam is this. In high school, he didn't play a lick of defense. In his one year at Duke, even though his offense was terrible, his defense was very good. No one focused on his defense because of his offensive expectations. Defensive effort shows that he's a hard worker in my book. Also, shows that when he puts in the work he can make dramatic improvements and by all accounts from his coaches he is a very hard worker. Travis would not have drafted Cam if he wasn't. You put that work ethic with his upside and you should get a minimum a very good three and D starter. PG and all the other comparisons aside. Great post and I agree with it 100%. Defense isn't about talent like offense is: it's about effort and hard work. I believe Cam will be a special player for us for years to come. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted August 20, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) https://www.thestepien.com/2018/12/12/draft-notes-shittu-reddish-little-mirror-seasons/ Reddish and Hunter midseason notes Edited August 20, 2019 by NBASupes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 11:35 PM, NBASupes said: Once again, dope ass post. I just don't think it's all posture based. He had good posture in the Draft day picks but he clearly gained at least 1 to 1.25 inches. He looks much taller. Dude, no. His measurements at the draft combine are his measurements. He measured 6'6.5" in May. That is his full adult height. That is not a dope ass post, that is idiocy. He has been measured, no not by pictures and conjecture, but by the NBA teams. He is 6'6.5", with 7"0.5" reach, solid size. I like Cam a lot, but disputing objective, verifiable measurements is not kinda unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Was just over on CNN\SI and watched a 20 minute hi light film of Cam Reddish at Duke. Had to keep reminding myself that he wasn't 100% healthy. Smooth shooter, without hesitation, from anywhere and everywhere on the court. Heard the announcer say that his defense was under rated by most. Wow! All this good stuff and he plays great defense! How cool is that.... Seems that the Hawks were just holding their breath after their pick at #4 until they got their turn again at #10 and he was there! After this jackpot grab, they waited and waited. Their other dream pick was still there and they managed to grab Bruno at #36. We Hawk fans dream of things like this summer's draft. If these three players are as good as we here on the Squawk think, Atlanta is building something very special here. Too many good things for it all to be bad. GO ATL HAWKS !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: Dude, no. His measurements at the draft combine are his measurements. He measured 6'6.5" in May. That is his full adult height. That is not a dope ass post, that is idiocy. He has been measured, no not by pictures and conjecture, but by the NBA teams. He is 6'6.5", with 7"0.5" reach, solid size. I like Cam a lot, but disputing objective, verifiable measurements is not kinda unnecessary. A person can’t grow? Ohhhkay. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 20, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: A person can’t grow? Ohhhkay. 2.5 inches in 2 months seems unlikely but we'll find out when the season starts. By then he might be 7'0'' if he has gone from 6'6.5'' to 6'9'' in just two months! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gray Mule Posted August 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, AHF said: 2.5 inches in 2 months seems unlikely but we'll find out when the season starts. By then he might be 7'0'' if he has gone from 6'6.5'' to 6'9'' in just two months! While school was out one summer I grew from 5' 8" to 6'3"! Tell me, and make me believe it, that he can't grow over the summer !! 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, AHF said: 2.5 inches in 2 months seems unlikely but we'll find out when the season starts. By then he might be 7'0'' if he has gone from 6'6.5'' to 6'9'' in just two months! He was listed at 6'8 with shoes and now looks 6'9. He is at least an inch shorter than Bruno when he was just an incher taller than Zion during the draft. McGrady was listed at 6.6'5 with shoes but grew an inch in the NBA. Was around 6'7.5 with shoes in Orlando. Edited August 20, 2019 by NBASupes 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hazer Posted August 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, bleachkit said: Dude, no. His measurements at the draft combine are his measurements. He measured 6'6.5" in May. That is his full adult height. That is not a dope ass post, that is idiocy. He has been measured, no not by pictures and conjecture, but by the NBA teams. He is 6'6.5", with 7"0.5" reach, solid size. I like Cam a lot, but disputing objective, verifiable measurements is not kinda unnecessary. 6’8 in shoes back in May, looks to be about 6’9 in shoes now. You ever heard of growth plates? A few rare individuals growth plates don’t fully close until 20 years old. For these people, growing an inch in 3 months isn’t unheard of. My growth plates didn’t close until 20 years old, I grew 1 final inch in only about a 3-4 month period right before I was 20. My son is 19 and just grew 1 inch in the last 4 months, will be 20 in 6 weeks. Idiotic is thinking a 19 year old won’t grow anymore simply because he was measured at the NBA combine. “Welp, we’ve been officially measured, close ‘em up!” ~ Cam’s growth plates Edited August 20, 2019 by hazer 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, AHF said: 2.5 inches in 2 months seems unlikely but we'll find out when the season starts. By then he might be 7'0'' if he has gone from 6'6.5'' to 6'9'' in just two months! 6’8 in shoes in mid May, 6’9 in shoes late August. Streeeeetch Edited August 20, 2019 by hazer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Speaking of Cam, he was featured on all of the tv shows this morning. But it wasn't really worth a shit to be honest. Mainly just about Zion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, bleachkit said: Dude, no. His measurements at the draft combine are his measurements. He measured 6'6.5" in May. That is his full adult height. That is not a dope ass post, that is idiocy. He has been measured, no not by pictures and conjecture, but by the NBA teams. He is 6'6.5", with 7"0.5" reach, solid size. I like Cam a lot, but disputing objective, verifiable measurements is not kinda unnecessary. 1 hour ago, Spud2nique said: A person can’t grow? Ohhhkay. 31 minutes ago, AHF said: 2.5 inches in 2 months seems unlikely but we'll find out when the season starts. By then he might be 7'0'' if he has gone from 6'6.5'' to 6'9'' in just two months! Scottie Pippen was 6’1 when he graduated high school. He grew to an NBA height of 6’8... Dennis Rodman graduated high school at 5’6. When he turned 19 he grew 14” to 6’8... Tim Duncan was only 6’3 at age 17. He would then grow to an NBA height of 6’11. Lamar Odom was only 6’2 when he graduated high school. He grew until his junior year of college, to 6’9. Certainly a 19 year old Cam Reddish can grow an inch from mid May to late August. Or naw? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, hazer said: Scottie Pippen was 6’1 when he graduated high school. He grew to an NBA height of 6’8... Dennis Rodman graduated high school at 5’6. When he turned 19 he grew 14” to 6’8... Tim Duncan was only 6’3 at age 17. He would then grow to an NBA height of 6’11. Lamar Odom was only 6’2 when he graduated high school. He grew until his junior year of college, to 6’9. Certainly a 19 year old Cam Reddish can grow an inch from mid May to late August. Or naw? Odom grew in HS. I don't even think he stayed in college that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Odom grew in HS. I don't even think he stayed in college that long Yeah, this article has that incorrect: ”Lamar Odom - At 6'2 in high school, it seems as though Lamar Odom was destined to be a point guard. Out of the blue, Odom experienced a late growth spurt that saw him grow from 6'2" as a high school senior to 6'9" his junior year of college.” https://howtheyplay.com/question/which-nba-players-had-late-growth-spurts Since he only played 1 year, that should’ve read “his freshman year of college.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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