Hawks trade Bazemore to Portland for E. Turner

[hazer]

9 minutes ago, hazer said:

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, hazer said:

 

[Thomas]

1 hour ago, hazer said:

Will now be referred to as the Baze Blaze I guess.

[Spud2nique]

37 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Will now be referred to as the Baze Blaze I guess.

 

[Watchman]

On 6/26/2019 at 5:41 PM, thecampster said:

So I took some time to really dive into what the hell the Turner haters are thinking. Honestly I can't figure it out.

Last season, Baze played 2 more minutes per game, yet

Turner beats Baze 

FG% 46% vs 40%

RBG - 4.5 vs 3.9

APG - 3.9 vs 2.3

TO/G- 1.6 vs 1.8

 

Baze beats Turner

3PT% 32% vs 21.2% (Kent took 4.5 attempts per game, Turner .7)

Steals 1.3 vs .5

Blocks .6 vs .2

 

I'm really trying to understand this.  Turner shot 6% better from the floor, Shy'd away from taking 3's and focus'd on creating for others. He posted more rebounds and assists in 10% less minutes per game.  Yes Baze shot better from 3 but he still shot poorly from 3 and took 4.5 shots per game.  Why exactly do we not want this guy at $640k less?  Anyone with a sound argument to why Baze is better?

I think Turner's 6 PPG would probably be a major factor.  6 PPG in 22 MPG suggests we are always going to be playing 4 vs. 5 on offense, when he is on the court.

Edited July 1, 2019 by Watchman

[Peoriabird]

6 minutes ago, Watchman said:

I think Turner's 6 PPG would probably be a major factor.  6 PPG in 22 MPG suggests we are always going to be playing 4 vs. 5 on offense, when he is on the court.

Twice as many points as J. Adams averaged

[Watchman]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

Twice as many points as J. Adams averaged

In almost twice the minutes.  

[Peoriabird]

Just now, Watchman said:

In almost twice the minutes.  

Last month of the season Adams average 18 minutes per game.  16 minutes per game in March

[AtlHomer]

9 minutes ago, Watchman said:

I think Turner's 6 PPG would probably be a major factor.  6 PPG in 22 MPG suggests we are always going to be playing 4 vs. 5 on offense, when he is on the court.

It could suggest that he focused on getting his other teammates involved.  Scoring stats by themselves does not tell the full story of a players contribution to the team.

[Watchman]

Just now, AtlHomer said:

It could suggest that he focused on getting his other teammates involved.  Scoring stats by themselves does not tell the full story of a players contribution to the team.

Maybe we should have pursued Lonzo Ball.  

[AHF]

13 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Last month of the season Adams average 18 minutes per game.  16 minutes per game in March

Adams isn’t a credible nba player and won’t block us from doing anything.  Turner is a fatally flawed nba player but he earns so much it is likely to bar us from acquiring a better option.

[JayBirdHawk]

Baze still Loves the A!

 

 

[Spud2nique]

12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Baze still Loves the A!

 

 

As far as citizens for the Hawks only Doc and Deke were above Baze imo. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Interesting!

 

I do wonder who were the other teams and if TS explored those options to see if we could get something more for Baze.

Happy for Baze!

 

[Atlantaholic]

On 7/24/2019 at 6:55 PM, Spud2nique said:

As far as citizens for the Hawks only Doc and Deke were above Baze imo. 

Great citizen, terrible player. 

[AHF]

3 hours ago, Atlantaholic said:

Great citizen, terrible player. 

Better than the player we got back.  I get why he wanted out though - the future is Cam / Huerter / Hunter.

[Atlantaholic]

43 minutes ago, AHF said:

Better than the player we got back.  I get why he wanted out though - the future is Cam / Huerter / Hunter.

Marginally... like, very marginally. 

[NBASupes]

Cheeks

[macdaddy]

Turner will be fine.  I think we will come to appreciate him.  It's a new system.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, macdaddy said:

Turner will be fine.  I think we will come to appreciate him.  It's a new system.

He has not been good in any system and has been in the NBA for 9 years.  The best we can hope for is a mixed bag with good defense and solid playmaking.