Kevin Huerter Article - Don't write off the Huert!

[marco102]

You know since we've gotten our new wings, there's been lots of talk about Kevin Huerter coming off the bench.  I'm as big as fan of Cam Reddish and De'Andre Hunter as anyone, but if it came down to the Rooks or Huerter, I'm choosing Huerter.   We forget the flashes that he showed last year, Coach Pierce lights up when he talks about Kevin.  I hope we see dramatic improvement in Kevin's game this season along with the rooks.

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Inside Kevin Huerter’s mindset: ‘I can be up there with the top shooters in the league’

One of the biggest points of emphasis this summer for Huerter has been to attack the rim with more aggressiveness and absorb contact instead of avoiding it. Huerter attempted only 56 free throws this past season — a number that Lloyd Pierce expressed his displeasure with at the end of the season.

Each workout for Huerter is different and mirrors the different actions he’ll run with Atlanta in the coming season. 

His workouts end with mental spot shooting, where he has to make 8-of-10 shots he’s taking from a spot on the floor twice, followed by 9-of-10 twice and then 10-of-10 once. He can’t leave the gym until he makes 10 shots in a row. It’s one of the drills the Hawks have implemented as an organization because it forces the players to get in the mindset of becoming at least an 80 percent 3-point shooter when they’re left wide open and have the confidence of being among the best shooters in the league.

Huerter was disappointed this past season that he shot only 38.5 percent from 3-point range. He says 40 percent from distance should be the lowest he ever shoots in a season.

 Huerter said he already has gained around seven or eight pounds this offseason and is around 205 pounds after playing most of last season at 196 or 197 pounds. 

Each returning player on the Hawks’ roster was given a player progression sheet at the start of offseason conditioning in May, and one of the points of emphasis for Huerter was finishing at the rim better than he did in his rookie year. 

What really impressed Dagostino — who says he watched more than 60 Hawks games — about Huerter’s rookie season was how strong Atlanta’s player development turned out to be. 

“A big part of development is having your coaches pushing you and believing in you to do stuff in games,” Dagostino said. “I thought that was such a critical part of his growth this year. Hopefully, they keep showing that trust in him and he gets better in Year 2.”

The Hawks want Huerter more involved in the offense this year and want him to be more aggressive with creating his own opportunities.

Dagostino has been working with Huerter on his footwork and his ability to create more space for his shots. Nearly 40 percent of his field-goal attempts last season came with defenders four feet or closer to him, which NBA.com’s stats classifies as tight defense. That number is too high for Dagostino. 

Huerter hasn’t set any personal goals for himself. The only goal he’s concerned about is that the Hawks are better than they were last year.

“I want to win more than 29 games, and that’s it,” Huerter said. "

https://theathletic.com/1090998/2019/07/23/inside-kevin-huerters-mindset-i-can-be-up-there-with-the-top-shooters-in-the-league/ 

 

Edited July 24, 2019 by marco102

[Buzzard]

Thanks for the article and I like Huerter's mindset. 40% is his minimum and he wants more wins.

[marco102]

3 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

Thanks for the article and I like Huerter's mindset. 40% is his minimum and he wants more wins.

You're Welcome.  Just so the Mod's know this isn't even a quarter of that article, super long read.

[turnermx]

This team is young and with a lot of depth, I think Heurter has been overlooked. This article is very encouraging, confirming the belief I had in my mind that he and the rest of the young guys (Collins, Young, of course) and Hunter and Dre are not only of good character but hungry  for success and hardworking. 

[kg01]

#HeurtSoGuud is gonna evolve into a killa.  Mark my words.

(New season, new nickname, b*tches.)

[hazer]

The Huert!

[Spud2nique]

14 minutes ago, kg01 said:

#HeurtSoGuud is gonna evolve into a killa.  Mark my words.

(New season, new nickname, b*tches.)

Ur a nickname groupie as much as Haze is a groupie  

[NBASupes]

I think it is clearly possible. His expect jump is reasonable but if he makes a healthy jump especially on movement where he struggled, he could be something good. Better than 12-14ppg good.

As far as him being disappointed in shooting 38.5% from three, I get it but his projected was around 36 and his midseason at Maryland as a Soph wasn't much better if any. It's not like he showed he was Klay Thompson or Cam Reddish for an off ball player. Volume was decent, variance was low and his FT shooting didn't really inspire me all that much out of college.

 

I felt he improved coming into the NBA quite a bit. He exceeded his career expected projections and did it by a major difference percentage wise. He had a great year considering the expectations. 

Edited July 24, 2019 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

I have never been soooo happy to be wrong about a player.  GL fodder I said...WROOONG!!!!

Love the nickname @kg01

#HuertSoGuud

[Buzzard]

37 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I think it is clearly possible. His expect jump is reasonable but if he makes a healthy jump especially on movement where he struggled, he could be something good. Better than 12-14ppg good.

As far as him being disappointed in shooting 38.5% from three, I get it but his projected was around 36 and his midseason at Maryland as a Soph wasn't much better if any. It's not like he showed he was Klay Thompson or Cam Reddish for an off ball player. Volume was decent, variance was low and his FT shooting didn't really inspire me all that much out of college.

 

I felt he improved coming into the NBA quite a bit. He exceeded his career expected projections and did it by a major difference percentage wise. He had a great year considering the expectations. 

Some scout pundit, whoever is providing you with these projections Supes, thinks he has a end all be all formula to project NBA talent; yet he can't get a job making six figures doing just that. This is why I don't pay a lot of attention to what I call hype stats. Huerter shot .758 from the FT line and .417 from three his sophomore year. How in the world some advanced metric does not see the possibility that he could be a great shooter is beyond me.

These are hard stats and if Huerter passes the eye test, he does, that is all I need. I think Hunter has the same opportunity to succeed based on his eerily similar .783 FT% and .438 3PT% his sophomore year; and on D he blows the eye test up. Schlenk is a very smart man; getting these two players, and Collins, while also swinging for the fences on Reddish and Bruno proves it all day.

Edited July 24, 2019 by Buzzard

[NBASupes]

30 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

Some scout pundit, whoever is providing you with these projections Supes, thinks he has a end all be all formula to project NBA talent; yet he can't get a job making six figures doing just that. This is why I don't pay a lot of attention to what I call hype stats. Huerter shot .758 from the FT line and .417 from three his sophomore year. How in the world some advanced metric does not see the possibility that he could be a great shooter is beyond me.

These are hard stats and if Huerter passes the eye test, he does, that is all I need. I think Hunter has the same opportunity to succeed based on his eerily similar .783 FT% and .438 3PT% his sophomore year; and on D he blows the eye test up. Schlenk is a very smart man; getting these two players, and Collins, while also swinging for the fences on Reddish and Bruno proves it all day.

I rather look at truly translatable data. If I used average data points, it wouldn't tell me nothing. The eye test was always good for Kevin but the data said if he shot what he shot this year in his 2nd year, that would have been major progress. If he shoots incrementally better, that means he have had massive progress which he is on pace to do. Even his personal coach since HS in the article said that he was extremely impressed with Atlanta's player development Mr. Critic. 

The reason we use the projected 3 point shot is because more times than not it's extremely accurate. Now you can outshoot that mark. Steph had the highest mark of all time. He outshot it by an unbelievable mark as his career progressed. It's simply the most accurate. No one thinks Justise Winslow and Lonzo Ball are better three point shooters than Steph Curry. 

Volume matters. Even in the NBA his volume hasn't been all that great. Variance matters. Which is why he is working that heavily. Once again, not understanding the NBA is making you look goofy in the light.

 

Hunter, lol. He doesn't pass the eye test and his 3s come mostly at 4 while wide open. His projected mark is a meager 35.6% which is very good for a 4 but not not what you want from a 3 in our system. 

Edited July 24, 2019 by NBASupes

[Buzzard]

7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I rather look at truly translatable data. If I used average data points, it wouldn't tell me nothing. The eye test was always good for Kevin but the data said if he shot what he shot this year in his 2nd year, that would have been major progress. If he shoots incrementally better, that means he have had massive progress which he is on pace to do. Even his personal coach since HS in the article said that he was extremely impressed with Atlanta's player development Mr. Critic. 

The reason we use the projected 3 point shot is because more times than not it's extremely accurate. Now you can outshoot that mark. Steph had the highest mark of all time. He outshot it by an unbelievable mark as his career progressed. It's simply the most accurate. No one thinks Justise Winslow and Lonzo Ball are better three point shooters than Steph Curry. 

Volume matters. Even in the NBA his volume hasn't been all that great. Variance matters. Which is why he is working that heavily. Once again, not understanding the NBA is making you look goofy in the light.

I am a proof is in the pudding type of guy. Unless you can show me past data sets where your man hit more than your man missed, I will take hard stats, apply an eye test, while also understanding that sometimes very talented players still fail because of whats between the ears.

I cannot stand wishy washy made up stat formulas with no substance being provided, If I can't see it, I ain't buying it.

Edited July 24, 2019 by Buzzard

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

I am a proof is in the pudding type of guy. Unless you can show me past data sets where your man hit more than your man missed, I will take hard stats, apply an eye test, while also understanding that sometimes very talented players still fail because of whats between the ears.

I cannot stand wishy washy made up stat formulas with no substance being provided, If I can't see it, I ain't buying it.

You don't understand the ingredients in the pudding to understand what's behind the proof in your eyes. You tried to throw Hunter in here when Huerter has always passed eye test as a legit shooter and Hunter hasn't especially when defended. Only 26 percent of his shots are 3s compared to 54% of Huerter in his last year of college. You don't understand data broski

Edited July 24, 2019 by NBASupes

[Buzzard]

10 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

You don't understand the ingredients in the pudding to understand what's behind the proof in your eyes. You tried to throw Hunter in here when Huerter has always passed eye test as a legit shooter and Hunter hasn't especially when defended. Only 26 percent of his shots are 3s compared to 54% of Huerter in his last year of college. You don't understand data broski

You are missing the point. Hunter is not one dimensional.

Hunter has to be guarded, if not, he will knock down his threes. Please leave him unguarded. Hunter will go into beast mode against most SG and SF, that will have a impact. Hunter is not timid about contact, he gets to the line, and knocks down his free throws, that will have a impact. Hunter can defend, that will have a impact.

I understand data. You seem to think the only thing that matters is what is important to you. Things like chucking 10 threes a game while only hitting .333%.

Edited July 24, 2019 by Buzzard

[NBASupes]

Just now, Buzzard said:

You are missing the point. Hunter is not one dimensional.

Hunter has to be guarded, if not, he will knock down his threes. Please leave him unguarded. Hunter will go into beast mode against most SG and SF, that will have a impact. Hunter is not timid about contact, he gets to the line, and knocks down his free throws, that will have a impact. Hunter can defend, that will have a impact.

Lol. You sound like someone who doesn't understand Hunter game and I love Hunter game 

Edited July 24, 2019 by NBASupes

[NBASupes]

I get the feeling that Hunter with some posters will be the new Josh Smith v. Al Horford. Josh Smith guys used to interject Smoove into every thread especially with me who was an obvious Horford supporter. It was lame then and it's lame now and unlike Smoove, I actually like Hunter. A lot. 

I refuse to address it moving forward, this thread is about Kevin Huerter 

Edited July 24, 2019 by NBASupes

[Buzzard]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Lol. You sound like someone who doesn't understand Hunter game and I love Hunter game 

Really? You don't think Hunter played bully ball in the national championship game against Culver? You and I did not watch the same game. I don't know how much more of a bully he could have been. Hunter shot .550 on his 2PT attempts last season and he got to line more than Huerter or Reddish.

You need to stop making things up, It is like you are trying to pull a rabbit out of Trae's hat he is wearing in that picture. According to you Hunter does not get inside and he does not create his own three point shot. I think you hate Hunter's game to be honest.

[Buzzard]

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I get the feeling that Hunter with some posters will be the new Josh Smith v. Al Horford. Josh Smith guys used to interject Smoove into every thread especially with me who was an obvious Horford supporter. It was lame then and it's lame now and unlike Smoove, I actually like Hunter. A lot. 

I refuse to address it moving forward, this thread is about Kevin Huerter 

No one interjected anyone to spur you to defend your guy, I mentioned all five of our draft picks, compared Huerters 3PT% to Hunter's' and you think that is somehow, in a lame way, about you and Reddish. I am over this. Like talking to a child.

[JayBirdHawk]

I'm so excited for the next phase of his development. You can see  his developing muscle definition!

 

 

[Spud2nique]

5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I'm so excited for the next phase of his development. You can see  his developing muscle definition!

 

 

Ya he is! skrooong like bull. I like it. May I borrow this?