Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted July 28, 2019 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Quote Trae Young, Hawks Rookie Report: Young’s uneven year ended in satisfying fashion as he closed the season with 24.0 points and 9.3 assists per game in his last 20 contests. Young didn’t appear overwhelmed by NBA length in his first season, earning cleaner looks than his 32.4% mark from three would suggest. His efficiency should see an uptick in year two. Young entered his rookie year as a dead-eye shooter, but he exited the season as one of the league’s most inventive passers. Young is wise beyond his years as a pick-and-roll ball handler. He probes with the patience of Mike Conley, then rifles the ball the second he catches a defense leaning. Young can skip the ball to any corner of the court, even with his off hand. His feathery touch on lobs is pristine–elegant teardrops fall into the arms of John Collins and Alex Len. Young was a gunner by necessity at Oklahoma. He was a brilliant rookie maestro in Atlanta. The Next Step: Let’s see Young truly make teams pay from beyond the arc. His playmaking is elite for his age, and he’ll frankly be a defensive sieve for the rest of his career. Young will need to emulate Damian Lillard and Steph Curry for Atlanta to make a leap in the next decade. Simple flashes of the Western Conference superstars will suffice in year two. Quote The Next Step: Let’s see Young truly make teams pay from beyond the arc. His playmaking is elite for his age, and he’ll frankly be a defensive sieve for the rest of his career. Young will need to emulate Damian Lillard and Steph Curry for Atlanta to make a leap in the next decade. Simple flashes of the Western Conference superstars will suffice in year two. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post High5 Posted July 29, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 He's already shown plenty of flashes of those two. With better playmaking than both. I'm looking for more consistency, which should come from being more comfortable and better conditioned. He ran out of gas a lot. Better a little stronger and learning to play more off the ball (and others learning to play better with the ball) won't hurt. I'm not too worried about Trae continuing his progression as long as he stays healthy. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IheartVolt Posted July 29, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 He isn't Curry or Lillard. His game as he matures will only emulate those two in his 3-point shooting, and as a matter of fact, the comparison has grown old and tired and needs tossed out. He is indeed Steve Nash 2.0 with a higher playmaking ceiling and I am excited as hell he is a Hawk. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted July 29, 2019 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 All Star 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AUhawksfan Posted July 30, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 If he averaged 24 and 9 over his last 20 games, there is no reason why he couldn't do that over the course of a season. I've yet to see any direct comparison to Trae, he is his own person. He is a better one-on-one scorer than Nash and a better play maker than Curry. Sky is the limit for this kid. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 I like to compare him to a blend of Zeke, Nash and Dame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 The in and out of the lane stuff ending with an assist is so very much like Nash I don't see a reason to deny it anymore. Must see TV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post sturt Posted July 31, 2019 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Always interests me to see what non-Hawks fans, and particularly those who attempt neutrality, think of Ice. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enrique Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, sturt said: Always interests me to see what non-Hawks fans, and particularly those who attempt neutrality, think of Ice. Boy, that graphic triggered the Luka-posse! That is worth so much to my shallow sense of humor:) 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 I know some people will love hearing that. And I know some other people might throw up a little. I’m undecided. Kobe has often been credited for Tatum’s sophomore slump. Mostly as a joke, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 31, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 I was never a Kobe fan but Trae seems like the kind of guy who picks the brains of everyone he can. Hopefully he'll take the right lessons away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTB Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 So young has put on 12-16 pounds of muscle apparently! And he’s going to Kobe camp to work on his midrange game!....,absolutely love it!!!!! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Prepares for bad 15ft mid range fading away off of one foot and the other foot in the sky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Peoriabird Posted July 31, 2019 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Trae is a "Borg"! Got to the love the kid trying to assimilate everything from every body! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 31, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Prepares for bad 15ft mid range fading away off of one foot and the other foot in the sky Kobe did a lot of that. He would rank very low on the list of mentors for Trae in my book. But Trae has been in touch with plenty of other former stars so hopefully he is just adding useful pieces to his already mature "book" and not looking for Kobe to help redefine his game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, AHF said: I was never a Kobe fan but Trae seems like the kind of guy who picks the brains of everyone he can. Hopefully he'll take the right lessons away. Kobe was a gym rat and one of the most physical shooting guards in the game. Nash was a gym rat also. These are high quality players he is seeking out. It is all about the work ethic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 31, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Buzzard said: Kobe was a gym rat and one of the most physical shooting guards in the game. Nash was a gym rat also. These are high quality players he is seeking out. It is all about the work ethic. My questions about Kobe weren't about work ethic. He absolutely was a gym rat and very hard worker. I do think he had questionable shot selection and ego issues. But maybe the ego is what made him a great player at the end of the day. In either case, being a student of the game and hard worker are lessons I'm happy to have Trae absorb. I don't want to see Trae shooting 28% of his attempts as long 2's like Kobe did (at a 40% rate for his career). I also don't want to see Trae run Collins off if Collins becomes a superstar in his own right. (Kobe could have probably added some more rings if he didn't do this.) Most of all, I don't want to see Trae play hero ball like Kobe did. Kobe hit a lot of game winners primarily because he forced a lot of shots with the game on the line. From 2000-2012 (i.e., his prime of age 22-33), Kobe shot 39.7% from the field and 28% from 3pt range on clutch shots. (That was a worse efg% than everyone in the top 10). He also iso'd more than everyone but Dwyane Wade and Steve Nash (actually Steve was not in the top 10, he was #11 and had a great efg%) who both shot many fewer and did a lot more playmaking. I think Trae will be much more oriented around finding the best shots for the team rather than having to be the one taking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 31, 2019 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, AHF said: My questions about Kobe weren't about work ethic. He absolutely was a gym rat and very hard worker. I do think he had questionable shot selection and ego issues. But maybe the ego is what made him a great player at the end of the day. In either case, being a student of the game and hard worker are lessons I'm happy to have Trae absorb. I don't want to see Trae shooting 28% of his attempts as long 2's like Kobe did (at a 40% rate for his career). I also don't want to see Trae run Collins off if Collins becomes a superstar in his own right. (Kobe could have probably added some more rings if he didn't do this.) Don't you think you are being a little hard on a 5 time NBA champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Maybe Kobe helps with his defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 31, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Don't you think you are being a little hard on a 5 time NBA champion? No. I 100% stand by all of these criticisms. As an aside, Shaq was the #1 on the majority of those championships which doesn't take away from Kobe's outstanding career. But I think he could have had more rings had he not run Shaq off (Shaq immediately won with Wade) and could have had a better overall career if he didn't fall into the habit of shooting so many deep 2's and forcing so many hero ball shots. (As an aside, you can find posts from me going back 10 years being critical of Kobe for these things so I'm not just talking with the benefit of hindsight. It was obvious in real time as well, IMO. These flaws don't mean that Kobe isn't an all-time great. They just push him completely out of a lot of "greatest" types of discussions like 10 greatest players in NBA history or greatest starting 5, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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