Popular Post Gray Mule Posted August 15, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Look at "Atlanta Hawks News" on Hawksquawk headlines. Peachtree Hoops. ESPN has just made their educated projection for the Hawks Their 30.4 estimate of wins means that we gain one win on last season's total. WOW! These "experts" know what they are talking about. This means that all of us here except maybe the Doctor, who hasn't been here of late, have it all wrong. All the new players that were traded for are not expected to contribute anything of real value. Apparently our GM doesn't know how to draft and our returning young players will not improve and Lloyd is a "blah" head coach. Maybe they don't really say all that but, check them out. We are expected to win one more game than last season! Bah. Humbug... 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Quote 12. Atlanta Hawks Average wins: 30.4Playoffs: 3% Given the young Hawks won 29 games last season, this projection might be somewhat disappointing. The veterans that Atlanta added this summer, most notably Evan Turner, don't figure to help the team win, and lottery picks De'Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish also project as below-replacement players as rookies. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/27388596/projected-w-l-records-standings-every-nba-team 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted August 15, 2019 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 ESPN has been wrong regarding Hawks projected win totals for as long as I can remember . 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: ESPN has been wrong regarding Hawks projected win totals for as long as I can remember . Truth. Vegas will push the line off of their actual projection to get more people to bet on less popular teams so they lower their risk and ensure profits. ESPN pushes the "media market" teams to get more views and bolster their profits. In this case, it is a math exercise so I'm not as much about "bias" as about questioning the result. We should capture ESPN's predictions and compare them against the Squawk predictions, CARMELO predictions, etc. These are regular season only: WEST Houston 53.7 wins Denver 53.3 wins LAL 47.9 wins LAC 47.8 wins Utah 46.8 wins GS 46.4 wins Mavs 44.0 wins Blazers 40.2 wins (what the....) Kings 39.9 wins Minny 39.5 wins Spurs 38.6 wins (again, please let me bet on this...) Pels 38.5 wins (kg is happy they are 12th maybe?) Suns 38.0 wins OKC 36.6 wins (seems really optimistic) Memphis 31.9 wins EAST Bucks 50.7 wins Sellts 47.2 wins Philly 46.8 wins (hmmm....) Magic 46.4 wins (ummmm...) Toronto 45.5 wins Miami 42.9 wins Pacers 42.3 wins Nyets 41.0 wins Bulls 39.4 wins Detroit 39.3 wins Wiz 32.7 wins Hawks 30.4 wins Hornets 30.2 wins Cavs 26.5 wins Knicks 26.0 wins This projects us as the #4 team in the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Then place your bet, money making opportunity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Then place your bet, money making opportunity here. ESPN doesn't take bets and doesn't set lines for Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, AHF said: ESPN doesn't take bets and doesn't set lines for Vegas. I'm aware of that. I was being irreverent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, bleachkit said: I'm aware of that. I was being irreverent. I wish they took bets. Could have made a ton of money off ESPN projections over the years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I don't see the Wizards winning more games than us with Ish Smith as their Pg. Pistons are overrated. Who knows how many games Blake will play, and their starting {Pg: Reggie Jackson , Sg: Luke Kennard, and Sf: Tony Snell} is pretty weak. Celtics are overrated too. Let's see how good that Defense is gonna look with Kanter as their starting Center. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I am lower on Dallas than most. I have them at 36 wins but that's based on KP just not being that guy which I don't believe he is as he is always hurt. If KP is healthy and can play 70 games or more, 44 wins is my exact projection which is on par with all of my other projections. Higher on Atlanta, Sacramento and Portland than most projections. Most projections are higher on Toronto, Miami and Charlotte than I am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Supes, I trust your projections more than ESPN. You know who the Hawks have and believe what they are capable of. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: Then place your bet, money making opportunity here. How bout my avatar.. I mean ummmm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: How bout my avatar.. I mean ummmm Here's a new one for you. You need to update to the 2019 draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: I'm aware of that. I was being irreverent. Irreverent, irrelevant, close enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, pimp said: Here's a new one for you. You need to update to the 2019 draft. How many more days am I in the hole 🕳? Oct. 24? Opening night. 70 days? Ugh I hate this L*** avatar!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I agree with @AHF about it being a marketing tool. They are predicting the Hawks are worse off than the Wizards and The Bulls. Guess what? They are bigger markets. I am predicting 37 to 41 wins. One chases the 8th seed and the higher number could win it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted August 16, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Buzzard said: I agree with @AHF about it being a marketing tool. They are predicting the Hawks are worse off than the Wizards and The Bulls. Guess what? They are bigger markets. I am predicting 37 to 41 wins. One chases the 8th seed and the higher number could win it. There is no way that the Wiz or Bulls are going to end up better than the Hawks record wise barring injury for all parties. Wiz: Beal & Rui (as good as he is he’s a rookie that’s a post player, the game won’t allow him to dictate wins and losses that early imo) Bulls: I think Coby White and LaVine are good basketball players but not on the same team and not st the same time. Btw, they are good at elevating their own numbers imo but let’s see how everyone works around them like Lauri and Wendell. Hawks: Trae/Huerter/Cam/Hunter/Collins and VC around to keep them in check. You can be a general fan of and look at our team and see fitting pieces. You can’t do the same with a ton of teams and the above two are prime examples imo but we shall see. Hawks>Bulls>Wiz 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 BBALL INDEX's Jacob Goldstein 31.2 wins this upcoming season. - - Seems that our "new" Hawk team has become the favorite "slap around" team in the NBA. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: BBALL INDEX's Jacob Goldstein 31.2 wins this upcoming season. - - Seems that our "new" Hawk team has become the favorite "slap around" team in the NBA. I guarantee % that they are wrong. 31.2? Decimal rounded numbers seem to never be correct in predicting a team’s win total in any sport. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Have we oversold ourselves? We believe in our GM and we believe in what he's building. We have observed how well his drafted players have preformed. "He knows what he's doing" we keep telling ourselves. Then, the criticizing begins. Strangely enough, the player we here tend to ignore seems to be getting the most praise. Crabbe is mentioned, over and over, as a great deal. ??? Other players that were traded for all seem to fit into that ,"It doesn't matter. They will make no difference." Most all here believe in our three draft picks. Yet, over and over, I read critical notes about all three. First of all, Hunter cost too much. That seems to be more about him than about his actual talent. Personally, I believe that it was money and talent well spent. Reddish is seen as mostly a steal. Yet, because he wasn't a great star at Duke last winter, many feel that, although he eventually becomes a pretty good starter in the NBA, he will be just a very common wing. Bruno they can live with since he was a second round pick and they don't expect a lot out of him. Seemingly, everyone except most of us here, look on our center position as very weak. Again, I ask. Have we oversold ourselves? Are we destined to be fighting to stay out of the basement in the east rather than striving for that last spot in the playoff standings? Is it true that our returning core of young men will improve little, if at all? Will the absence of Dedmon, Prince and Bazemore have such a negative effect on our Beloved Hawk team that they will not recover? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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