Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 25, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I would be furious to be honest. I really don't like Vassell much at all. I've been a big proponent of drafting players in their true slots and a bigger proponent of drafting for FIT. He has limited PD skills. He's exclusively 3&D but only 192 with a skinny frame. While I have doubts on Patrick Williams, I don't doubt his potential at all. But TS said he's drafting 'BPA'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNorthCydeRises Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, NBASupes said: I would be furious to be honest. I really don't like Vassell much at all. I've been a big proponent of drafting players in their true slots and a bigger proponent of drafting for FIT. He has limited PD skills. He's exclusively 3&D but only 192 with a skinny frame. While I have doubts on Patrick Williams, I don't doubt his potential at all. I don't think a team that only won 20 games last year, can be drafting for fit. We fans tend to fall in love with the players that we already have, or think have potential. But if those guys aren't truly game changers, bringing in talent should always be the way to go. Having said that, I'm not a Vassell fan either. But he is probably a better fit than Bembry. And that may make Vassell a rotation guy instantly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 hours ago, NBASupes said: I would be furious to be honest. I really don't like Vassell much at all. I've been a big proponent of drafting players in their true slots and a bigger proponent of drafting for FIT. He has limited PD skills. He's exclusively 3&D but only 192 with a skinny frame. While I have doubts on Patrick Williams, I don't doubt his potential at all. Well he's not my favorite, but if he comes with an extra 1st, Im ok with him..I'm fine with Williams + a pick too.. Your Boy Obi is growing on me also.Im liking the fit more and more..I had him behind Okungwu and Deni, but hes right there now. Maybe ahead..Hes the best plug and play guy in the draft imo..We need someone who can help us next season... So right now, Im taking either Obi/Okungwu/Deni at 6..Leaning towards Toppin because of fit..If he was better on defense, it wouldnt even be close....But there's still lot of time before the draft. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 4 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: I don't think a team that only won 20 games last year, can be drafting for fit. We fans tend to fall in love with the players that we already have, or think have potential. But if those guys aren't truly game changers, bringing in talent should always be the way to go. Having said that, I'm not a Vassell fan either. But he is probably a better fit than Bembry. And that may make Vassell a rotation guy instantly. How about BPA AND fit? (Toppin/Okungwu/Deni)lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, terrell said: How about BPA AND fit? (Toppin/Okungwu/Deni)lol I agree with those names 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I agree with those names Deni will more than likely be gone at 6(Chicago or Cleveland)..But Obi or Okungwu should be there....If all 3 are gone, Id trade down(Vassell,Williams,Nesmith etc) if possible. If we cant find a trade partner then, I guess it's Hali/Okoro/Hayes as last resorts...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted September 25, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I'm guessing his passcode was Lobs2JC ~lw3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: I don't think a team that only won 20 games last year, can be drafting for fit. We fans tend to fall in love with the players that we already have, or think have potential. But if those guys aren't truly game changers, bringing in talent should always be the way to go. Having said that, I'm not a Vassell fan either. But he is probably a better fit than Bembry. And that may make Vassell a rotation guy instantly. You should ALWAYS draft for fit. That way you don't draft guys who don't fit like Josh Jackson for Phoenix. That said, you need to draft the best mix of FIT, talent, and skill for your style of play. What would appeal to OKC doesn't appeal to Atlanta. Bembry is not a fit at all. He's a leftover from the previous regime on a cheap contract. Being a better fit than Bembry is easy. Most of the top 30 is a better fit than Bembry. Potential is only potential when it works within your personnel, system, coaching, development route, and personality mesh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 Celtics look horrible so far..And Kemba Walker has been non existent in the PLayoffs.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, terrell said: Celtics look horrible so far..And Kemba Walker has been non existent in the PLayoffs.. BuT hE's BeTtEr ThAn TrAe BeCaUsE hE's A pRoVeN wInNeR... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, marco102 said: BuT hE's BeTtEr ThAn TrAe BeCaUsE hE's A pRoVeN wInNeR... Not even close...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, marco102 said: BuT hE's BeTtEr ThAn TrAe BeCaUsE hE's A pRoVeN wInNeR... Boston fans: "Kemba and Hayward are stealing checks" 8:54 PM · Sep 25, 2020...........lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, marco102 said: BuT hE's BeTtEr ThAn TrAe BeCaUsE hE's A pRoVeN wInNeR... Tatum is overrated too since we're talking about the hated Celtics. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, terrell said: Celtics look horrible so far..And Kemba Walker has been non existent in the PLayoffs.. They gotta trade Kemba, he's not a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, terrell said: Boston fans: "Kemba and Hayward are stealing checks" 8:54 PM · Sep 25, 2020...........lol They should consider trading Hayward too. Build around Tatum and Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, marco102 said: BuT hE's BeTtEr ThAn TrAe BeCaUsE hE's A pRoVeN wInNeR... The only proven winners in the NBA are LeBron and maybe Kawhi. Basically everyone else needs to be on a good team to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 14 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: But TS said he's drafting 'BPA'? That is BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted September 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, NBASupes said: That is BPA I think the point was that drafting for fit and drafting for bpa are frequently viewed as being diametrically opposed approaches to the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, AHF said: I think the point was that drafting for fit and drafting for bpa are frequently viewed as being diametrically opposed approaches to the draft. You should ALWAYS draft for fit. That way you don't draft guys who don't fit like Josh Jackson for Phoenix. That said, you need to draft the best mix of FIT, talent, and skill for your style of play. What would appeal to OKC doesn't appeal to Atlanta. Bembry is not a fit at all. He's a leftover from the previous regime on a cheap contract. Being a better fit than Bembry is easy. Most of the top 30 is a better fit than Bembry. Potential is only potential when it works within your personnel, system, coaching, development route, and personality mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, terrell said: Celtics look horrible so far..And Kemba Walker has been non existent in the PLayoffs.. Made a nice comeback. Game 6 on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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