bleachkit Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 12:01 PM, marco102 said: He's def bulked up in his time off. I just hope he doesn't loose his quickness with it. Literally every message board that has a young star for every team says "so and so has definitely bulked up". Mavs boards says Luka has bulked up, Suns board says Booker has bulked up. They are probably pretty much the same size as before, it's more likely fan bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Literally every message board that has a young star for every team says "so and so has definitely bulked up". Mavs boards says Luka has bulked up, Suns board says Booker has bulked up. They are probably pretty much the same size as before, it's more likely fan bias. okay. let's take a look. Looks bigger does he not? I'm not just coming on here saying sh*t and quite frankly don't care what other fans are saying. You can see he's noticeable bigger in the last video than the first two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, marco102 said: okay. let's take a look. Looks bigger does he not? I'm not just coming on here saying sh*t and quite frankly don't care what other fans are saying. You can see he's noticeable bigger in the last video than the first two. No, he just has his shirt off in the video. Trae looked just as ripped in the team yoga workout before the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Just now, bleachkit said: No, he just has his shirt off in the video. Trae looked just as ripped in the team yoga workout before the season. That's your opinion. You came on here like on your like all these other fans wishing he got bigger. He looked bigger to me. That's all that matters. I don't care if he gets bigger stays the same size or whatever. He just looks bigger to me. In the last video does he not look bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Trae looks pretty ripped to me here. This is 2018. I dont see this substantial difference you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Trae looks pretty ripped to me here. This is 2018. I dont see this substantial difference you are talking about. Again, he looks bulkier in the last video. His abs aren't showing up as much. My god you got me staring at this man body in detai. Let's just agree to disagree. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Interesting! Seems like they picked bubble guys (except KAT). 1. Luka 2. Tatum 3. Booker 4. Morant 5. Mitchell 6. Adebayo 7. Zion 8. Jamal Murray 9. Simmons 10. Ingram 11. Jaylen Brown 12. Fox 13. KAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 12:14 PM, marco102 said: That's your opinion. You came on here like on your like all these other fans wishing he got bigger. He looked bigger to me. That's all that matters. I don't care if he gets bigger stays the same size or whatever. He just looks bigger to me. In the last video does he not look bigger? Don't mind him. He's on a neverending quest to squash any optimism by dismissing it as homerism. Are we homers, to a degree? Clearly, yes. But that doesn't mean we're incapable of making observations that happen to reflect favorably to the Hawks ... but aren't totally homer-istic. And, even if we're all incurable homers, so what? Let folks have a little fun. Ain't hurtin' nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Interesting! Seems like they picked bubble guys (except KAT). 1. Luka 2. Tatum 3. Booker 4. Morant 5. Mitchell 6. Adebayo 7. Zion 8. Jamal Murray 9. Simmons 10. Ingram 11. Jaylen Brown 12. Fox 13. KAT Eh, I'm done getting up in arms about these lists. Until we make the playoffs, that's the last chip outsiders have to stand on. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted September 21, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, kg01 said: Eh, I'm done getting up in arms about these lists. Until we make the playoffs, that's the last chip outsiders have to stand on. Pretty sure these types of voters would have crapped on Jordan after the Bulls failed to get out of the first round of the playoffs his first 3 seasons. Playoff success is a necessary part of an NBA legacy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted September 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, AHF said: Pretty sure these types of voters would have crapped on Jordan after the Bulls failed to get out of the first round of the playoffs his first 3 seasons. Playoff success is a necessary part of an NBA legacy. Nah...Jordan was a big deal early in his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Nah...Jordan was a big deal early in his career! .... and people said he was a stat-hungry, losing player before he started winning in the playoffs. That's the point. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Interesting! Seems like they picked bubble guys (except KAT). 1. Luka 2. Tatum 3. Booker 4. Morant 5. Mitchell 6. Adebayo 7. Zion 8. Jamal Murray 9. Simmons 10. Ingram 11. Jaylen Brown 12. Fox 13. KAT Trae wasn't happy about it. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RedDawg#8 Posted September 22, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, marco102 said: Trae wasn't happy about it. LOL Exactly. He pointed out the fact that they are using his name and image to get readers interested in a list that doesn't include him. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said: Exactly. He pointed out the fact that they are using his name and image to get readers interested in a list that doesn't include him. smart kid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted September 22, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 15 hours ago, kg01 said: .... and people said he was a stat-hungry, losing player before he started winning in the playoffs. That's the point. Precisely. His impact was minimized by arguing he wasn't a real winner and was selfishly just about his own numbers. Until his team started winning in the playoffs and he got his due. Until we win Trae is going to get underrated even though he is clearly a pretty big deal given the attention he has gotten for his historic numbers and the rare starting All-Star appearance as a sophomore in this truncated season. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurider05 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/ 1. Luka Doncic2. Jayson Tatum3. Devin Booker4. Ja Morant5. Donovan Mitchell5. Bam Adabayo7. Zion Williamson8. Jamal Murray9. Ben Simmons9. Brandon Ingrahm11. Jaylen Brown11. De'Aaron Fox13. KAT NO love for Trae at all. Hope that this motivates him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted September 22, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wurider05 said: https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-execs-poll-luka-doncic-top-young-talent-zion-williamson/ 1. Luka Doncic2. Jayson Tatum3. Devin Booker4. Ja Morant5. Donovan Mitchell5. Bam Adabayo7. Zion Williamson8. Jamal Murray9. Ben Simmons9. Brandon Ingrahm11. Jaylen Brown11. De'Aaron Fox13. KAT NO love for Trae at all. Hope that this motivates him!! @Wurider - I merged your thread into here where this is already being discussed. It is definitely a clear sign of him being underrated. I wouldn't trade him for anyone on that list although I recognize my bias and so I'd say a bit more objectively that there are probably 2 people with arguments for a better case than he has. The rest of the list doesn't pass the smell test for me. Definitely a lot of bubble / playoff bias on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted September 22, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 That list is really annoying me. First, there's a whole bunch of guys on that list who don't really try on defense. Second, the Hawks played MUCH better with Trae than without him (nearly 8 pts per 100 possessions).http://www.82games.com/1920/19ATL1.HTM#onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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