Shouldn't have picked Cam

[Spud2nique]

6 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Wait, you're telling me a rookie wasn't able to come in and set the world afire but was able to improve given time and extra work?  Shocking.

It’s true I’ve seen it. It exists out there. But some still say...

 

[kg01]

13 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

It’s true I’ve seen it. It exists out there. But some still say...

 

And, just to be clear, I wasn't taking a shot at uncle @Gray Mule.  I was taking a shot at folks who don't seem to grasp the concept that not every rookie is gonna walk in as a finished product.  Gotta give dudes time to work.

[Spud2nique]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

And, just to be clear, I wasn't taking a shot at uncle @Gray Mule.  I was taking a shot at folks who don't seem to grasp the concept that not every rookie is gonna walk in as a finished product.  Gotta give dudes time to work.

Ya that’s what I initially thought you were saying. Lol. When all the parts start firing at once, .

[Buzzard]

10 minutes ago, kg01 said:

And, just to be clear, I wasn't taking a shot at uncle @Gray Mule.  I was taking a shot at folks who don't seem to grasp the concept that not every rookie is gonna walk in as a finished product.  Gotta give dudes time to work.

I agree about needing time. I think the Huerter injury and Collins suspension has dashed a lot of hopes for us to be competitive. Now some of us are 2nd guessing; and in my opinion its mainly due to the poor start and that is mainly due to Huerter and Collins being MIA.

I am still holding out hope for a 8th seed but without Collins for 25 games it is only by a thread.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Buzzard

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Ya that’s what I initially thought you were saying. Lol. When all the parts start firing at once, .

Eggsactly.  Hey, we play the Pistons next.  Perfect time to get the pistons firing all at once, right?

Just now, Buzzard said:

I agree about needing time. I think the Huerter injury and Collins suspension have dashed a lot of hopes for us to be competitive. Now some of us are 2nsd guessing; and in my opinion its mainly due to the poor start and that is mainly due to Huerter and Collins being MIA.

I am still holding out hope for a 8th seed but without Collins for 25 games it is only by a thread.

I think the injuries dashed hopes at exceeding expectations but I do feel we can still be a tough out as is.  Emphasis on "can" because if we don't come out ready to play we'll always get blown out with all the absences.

That's all I'm looking for from us until we're back at 100%.  Just be a tough out.  Make teams work for it.  Not that I'm happy with losses.  Just acknowledging the situation.

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, kg01 said:

pistons firing all at once

Ooohhh 🎖

[Spud2nique]

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Eggsactly.  Hey, we play the Pistons next.  Perfect time to get the pistons firing all at once, right?

I think the injuries dashed hopes at exceeding expectations but I do feel we can still be a tough out as is.  Emphasis on "can" because if we don't come out ready to play we'll always get blown out with all the absences.

That's all I'm looking for from us until we're back at 100%.  Just be a tough out.  Make teams work for it.  Not that I'm happy with losses.  Just acknowledging the situation.

This John Collins thing may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. I mean I hate him serving the suspension and all but it gives the rooks some opportunities for sure to get thing cranked up a bit.

We are 4-10 but this isn’t a write off 4-10 team heading for a tank. We are going to start getting some W’s soon.

[Buzzard]

Just now, Spud2nique said:

This John Collins thing may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. I mean I hate him serving the suspension and all but it gives the rooks some opportunities for sure to get thing cranked up a bit.

We are 4-10 but this isn’t a write off 4-10 team heading for a tank. We are going to start getting some W’s soon.

I think there are some winnable games coming up. Some of them are the 50/50 games that define a young teams season. This one against Detroit is the first of several in the next four to six weeks.

[kg01]

10 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

This John Collins thing may turn out to be a blessing in disguise. I mean I hate him serving the suspension and all but it gives the rooks some opportunities for sure to get thing cranked up a bit.

We are 4-10 but this isn’t a write off 4-10 team heading for a tank. We are going to start getting some W’s soon.

Salient point here.

It's not like we're intact and playing poorly.

[macdaddy]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Salient point here.

It's not like we're intact and playing poorly.

Yeah, and i think we're 3-1 in games that Trae, Heurt, Collins were all playing with the one loss being a close one to the sixers.  Small sample but pretty encouraging.  

[Buzzard]

8 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Salient point here.

It's not like we're intact and playing poorly.

When I looked at the schedule to start the season, I was hoping for a better record when we started that west coast swing. Honestly, I thought the only game we would win on that trip was against the Suns. Instead we started it with a worse record than I hoped but beat Portland and Utah which is not what I expected even with Collins and Huerter.

So the glass half full view is we did better on that west coast trip than I expected even if Collins and Huerter had played; to go along with a decently played game against the Bucks last night.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Buzzard

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, Buzzard said:

When I looked at the schedule to start the season, I was hoping for a better record when we started that west coast swing. Honestly, I thought the only game we would win on that trip was against the Suns. Instead we started it with a worse record than I hoped but beat Portland and Utah which is not what I expected even with Collins and Huerter.

So the glass half full view is we did better on that west coast trip than I expected even if Collins and Huerter had played; to go along with a decently played game against the Bucks last night.

Huh? We lost to Portland but beat Denver. 1-4 road trip.

[Buzzard]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Huh? We lost to Portland but beat Denver. 1-4 road trip.

My bad, OT loss and you are right. Chalk it up to old age with getting confused.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Buzzard

[macdaddy]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Huh? We lost to Portland but beat Denver. 1-4 road trip.

I think Baze draining 3s at the end confused him.

[Buzzard]

I always get Denver and Utah confused. I blame it on Sap for having played with both teams and us!

[NBASupes]

The bottom of the east is so trash that even New York still has a clear playoff shot. Look at the bottom two playoff teams right now: 

Brooklyn and Orlando. Both of them are below average. Dealing with injuries. Orlando went 4-0 last week and lost not only by 20 yesterday but lost Vooch and Gordon to ankle injuries. Brooklyn been nursing injuries but it seems to have helped that Kyrie is gone. They are winning again and moving the ball again. 

You got a list of currently wack teams like the Hawks, Wizards, Hornets, Knicks, Pistons, and Bulls just taking up space and not really sure what they are at time due to bad chemistry, or in our case (injuries and suspensions), just playing over their head like Charlotte but likely to finish at the bottom when it's all said and done. We will likely still have a shot. 

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

The bottom of the east is so trash that even New York still has a clear playoff shot. Look at the bottom two playoff teams right now: 

Brooklyn and Orlando. Both of them are below average. Dealing with injuries. Orlando went 4-0 last week and lost not only by 20 yesterday but lost Vooch and Gordon to ankle injuries. Brooklyn been nursing injuries but it seems to have helped that Kyrie is gone. They are winning again and moving the ball again. 

You got a list of currently wack teams like the Hawks, Wizards, Hornets, Knicks, Pistons, and Bulls just taking up space and not really sure what they are at time due to bad chemistry, or in our case (injuries and suspensions), just playing over their head like Charlotte but likely to finish at the bottom when it's all said and done. We will likely still have a shot. 

Ya that’s why I thought the Hawks would make the playoffs. I mean I didn’t think we’d be world beaters but I looked at the East and couldn’t name 8 better teams than us. 
 

It’s a long season. We are only 17% through it now. I still have ya getting in. And if not, I’m going down with the ship !

[BudBall]

There is no way we are getting in even with John Collins. Poor Defense and suspect wing and center play.

[macdaddy]

Full strength we were right there with Philly.  We've had some good wins.  Even without Heurt and Collins we were competitive with the Bucks.   I'm not seeing where, at full strength, we aren't as good as anyone in the bottom half of the EC. 

[Spud2nique]

50 minutes ago, BudBall said:

suspect wing

Not if you watched last night.