Coach Pierce is just as lost as the rookies are

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, Bonkers said:

Rookies play their heart out for a good stretch, then LP brings in Bembry for Hunter and that all goes out the window lol

 

Keep defedning him. I'm loving it haha

I was proud of the kids

[kg01]

What is wrong with people?

Like, literally.  Do people not recognize what's going on with this team right now?

It's like people waited for us to be at our lowest point then just decided to pounce on the coach.  As if any coach in this situation would be doing anything markedly different.  Plus, (not so) odd that it's the same refrain from the same posters who wanted basically every prior coach.

And, while we're on the topic, at what point do folks start to understand how little we know about how to coach an NBA team?  "Oh I don't like his rotations."  "Why's this guy playing over that guy?"  "Oh I don't like his play calls, blah."

Can we be honest and admit none-a y'all know what TF you're talking about?

What we see in games is probably about 10% of the actual job head coaches are doing.  But, for some reason, folks think "Bwah, I thank we should play Bruno over Len.", and that's all that needs to be done.  Well, do ya'll know if/when Bruno is/was available to play?  Do y'all know what they worked on in practice?  Do y'all actually know what the offense/defense is/was at that point in the game?  Are y'all truly aware how either guy was playing at the time or do you just not like one guy compared to the other?

Can we practice some situational awareness instead of being mindless, reactionary, agenda-heavy fanatics?

[AHF]

My post from the game thread:

If you imagine this game being played again with no Anthony Davis and no Danny Green and with JC and Kevin in perfect health and that should give you an idea of where we are right now.  Suddenly we have a whole new rotation and the Lakers are giving >54 minutes to vastly inferior players.  We lost by 21.  Make those 4 changes and it is a whole new ball game.

The point is that we are not just missing 2 starters -- we are missing 2 of our best 3 starters and the opponent at full strength.  Given that the Lakers were better than us to start with, that is like a stronger guy getting to use two hands in an arm wrestling contest.  We knew our depth was not high quality for this year and when you lose two of your high quality players you aren't going to win many of those.

Bottomline, I don't think we should overreact on this.  We had 3 quality players coming into this season, a few role players and some young rookies with real promise for the future.  No we are down to 1 quality player and putting too much stress on the rookies and limited role players because we just don't have a lot of options.  The results we are seeing are super predictable for this situation.

[Thomas]

21 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Can we practice some situational awareness instead of being mindless, reactionary, agenda-heavy fanatics?

Just gonna say "probably not".

[AUhawksfan]

Guys we should totally be a playoff team with two rookies starting and two of our top players missing......

Even at full strength I expected at most to be a fringe playoff team around .500 - that was best case for me but not my exepectation.   

My question for you guys bashing:  if you're so upset with this team, what was your honest expectation heading into this season?  We've lost a bunch of games on the road, to Western Conference teams that for the most part are at the top half of the conference give or take.  Besides the typical "my expectation was for this team to not play like trash" what were your hopes before this season?  The fact that your so upset tells me you set the bar way too high before the season started or just don't know how to handle what we're putting out on the floor, which is not a team with a high ceiling as it stands.

[kg01]

1 hour ago, Thomas said:

Just gonna say "probably not".

Oh, trust me, that question was rhetorical as heyul.

The only good thing that came from this thread was a random @Wretch sighting.  Whatup, homes?  Good to see you're still alive.  Well, I'll say 'around'.  You could be a zombie for all I know.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, AUhawksfan said:

  if you're so upset with this team, what was your honest expectation heading into this season? 

I had us as a 30 win team before we lost JC and Kev.  So this is not shocking to me to see us struggling without one or both of them.  

[NBASupes]

6 minutes ago, AHF said:

I had us as a 30 win team before we lost JC and Kev.  So this is not shocking to me to see us struggling without one or both of them.  

I had us at 44 wins but that was exclusively based on our core being healthy. JC 25 games suspension and Kevin's injury just depleted us 

[bleachkit]

We can't shoot. Worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA. Not sure what CLP can do about that. We are getting good looks or least ok looks, and they aren't going in. I don't think that's a result of bad coaching. 

[macdaddy]

Maybe LP will learn.  I mean remember the last year Bud was here and he was like the crappiest coach in the league and won just 24 games?  And then over the summer he learned to coach a lot better and won 60 games the next year.  

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, AUhawksfan said:

Guys we should totally be a playoff team with two rookies starting and two of our top players missing......

Even at full strength I expected at most to be a fringe playoff team around .500 - that was best case for me but not my exepectation.   

My question for you guys bashing:  if you're so upset with this team, what was your honest expectation heading into this season?  We've lost a bunch of games on the road, to Western Conference teams that for the most part are at the top half of the conference give or take.  Besides the typical "my expectation was for this team to not play like trash" what were your hopes before this season?  The fact that your so upset tells me you set the bar way too high before the season started or just don't know how to handle what we're putting out on the floor, which is not a team with a high ceiling as it stands.

I have us at 46 wins so... 

9+4 carry the two subtract the one... we need to go..

42-27 in Trae we trust. I honestly think that can be realistic considered the NBA gave us a tough lil roadie to start.

[HawkItus]

Talent is the great numerator.

 

i.e. Kerr(good coach or bad coach)

i.e. P Jackson(All-timer or lucky)

i,e. Lenny Wilkens/Don Nelson (most wins and most losses)

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

This is all I got!

 

 

[NBASupes]

Ouch 

https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular Season&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B Feet - Wide Open&sort=FG2A_FREQUENCY&dir=1

[AHF]

9 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Ouch 

https://stats.nba.com/teams/shots-closest-defender/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular Season&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B Feet - Wide Open&sort=FG2A_FREQUENCY&dir=1

Seems like this is directly caused by the number of bad shooters on our roster.

[NBASupes]

40 minutes ago, AHF said:

Seems like this is directly caused by the number of bad shooters on our roster.

Teams are crowding Trae and the lane and leaving open the three point shooters that we have

[AHF]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Teams are crowding Trae and the lane and leaving open the three point shooters that we have

And if they were willing to shoot those shots then the % would be higher.  But they pass on a lot of them because they are legitimately bad at shooting from deep.

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

And if they were willing to shoot those shots then the % would be higher.  But they pass on a lot of them because they are legitimately bad at shooting from deep.

The real issue is outside of Trae, we have horrendous mid range shooters. Parker. Reddish and Jones. Hunter is money but he just stands at the 3pt line. We get pissed at Bembry because he doesn't pass them up as often but mad when he bricks a contested layup

[Vol4ever]

11 hours ago, kg01 said:

What is wrong with people?

Like, literally.  Do people not recognize what's going on with this team right now?

It's like people waited for us to be at our lowest point then just decided to pounce on the coach.  As if any coach in this situation would be doing anything markedly different.  Plus, (not so) odd that it's the same refrain from the same posters who wanted basically every prior coach.

And, while we're on the topic, at what point do folks start to understand how little we know about how to coach an NBA team?  "Oh I don't like his rotations."  "Why's this guy playing over that guy?"  "Oh I don't like his play calls, blah."

Can we be honest and admit none-a y'all know what TF you're talking about?

What we see in games is probably about 10% of the actual job head coaches are doing.  But, for some reason, folks think "Bwah, I thank we should play Bruno over Len.", and that's all that needs to be done.  Well, do ya'll know if/when Bruno is/was available to play?  Do y'all know what they worked on in practice?  Do y'all actually know what the offense/defense is/was at that point in the game?  Are y'all truly aware how either guy was playing at the time or do you just not like one guy compared to the other?

Can we practice some situational awareness instead of being mindless, reactionary, agenda-heavy this 

This is a discussion board.  Everyone has a right to their opinion.  

[Bonkers]

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

No it wasn't. LP killed the momentum by not challenging that Turner foul.  If we win that challenge, Bruno's put back dunk counts as 2 points, and the Hawks are only down by 3.

Instead, the Bucks go down to the other end, and get two FTs to push the lead to 7.   Plus he brings Len in, who is ( -14 ) in the game in only 9 minutes.

LP has to start managing these games according to how these guys are actually playing, and not his set rotations.

With Trae playing like a** tonight, why not let the 2nd unit finish out that quarter completely?   It was bad coaching.

More and more people are agreeing with me