terrell Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, capstone21 said: I didn’t understand what number one would cost ... are we talking 6 and future picks or 6 and a core guy(s)? which I don’t want to do unless it’s a flip like you said for guys that will help us now. No core guys are getting traded from what I understand........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 I think PG was a fantastic player but at his 30 and after some scary injuries he is going down and I think he will go down quickly. I don’t think he is the player you want to grow with our young core. I would think on a younger and cheaper player, I am beginning to think Josh Richardson is the best fit if we want to make a deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, terrell said: Hawks want the #1 pick to trade or keep? Wtf? lol. No way we give up our 2021 unprotected pick.. 2021 is going to be in the mid teens at best (barring a Trae injury). We'd give it up to get the right player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thecampster Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, NBASupes said: I don't know who it could be. I would say PG13 is in his prime. He's younger than Jimmy Butler. Huerter, Bruno and Dedmon seem to be the players people are inquiring about. Teams also ask about Hunter and its quickly spun to Huerter. This isn't because they prefer one player over the other, but because Hunter is locked up for 1 extra year at a low salary. Huerter vs Hunter is about cap flexibility for the Hawks. #6 and 2022 seems to be the trade package. The starting point to flip with Minny is 6, Huerter and 2022 unprotected 1st. There would be other moving pieces. Atlanta would absorb a contract from another team in exchange for them sending an asset to Minny. This conversation is not hot right now, but just one of many conversations Minnesota is having. Atlanta believes they have the flexibility to flip 1 into a better package for themselves for win now. PG13 is about the Clips trying to create space and retool, not about the Hawks desperately wanting PG13. We are just the best fit for them moving him. We will do it if they make it worth our while. This would also be a multi team deal. Hawks have talked with Boston, Miami, Brooklyn, Philly, Toronto and a few others. Hawks have choices right now and haven't moved because teams want to make use of the Hawks cap space. Hawks are in a sellers market. Don't expect anything major today. Expect other teams to dominate the rumor market. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 No way I would trade the #1 pick for way-off p. That would be a horrible move on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 It’s pretty clear to me that Schlenk and this front office has talked with teams about the #1 pick and what those teams are willing to give for that pick. Atlanta having the number 1 pick could just be offering a better package than Minny is offering for the number one pick. sounds like to me if Schlenk is really going to move up to get that pick he did his homework very well. Like supes said it could be for PG13 or for a all star player we don’t even know is available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 9 hours ago, NBASupes said: I was told it will be slightly more costly than DAL/ATL and ATL/NO meaning 2021 or 2022 will be an unprotected pick, no protections So the deal is #6, Huerter and an UNPROTECTED pick in either 2021 or 2022 for #1 which we flip for PG who is on a 1 year contract? That doesn't sit well with me. PG would at least need to pick up his 2021-22 player option if we are including both Huerter and an unprotected pick. We'd have to have EVERYTHING go perfectly for that 1 year. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 9 hours ago, NBASupes said: Based on what I've personally been hearing, to flip. For whom, I would assume it's Paul George but it could be someone else who's available that Atlanta may covet that people don't know is available. I'm trying to figure out if not PG, who? Any Squawkers have any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 28, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: So the deal is #6, Huerter and an UNPROTECTED pick in either 2021 or 2022 for #1 which we flip for PG who is on a 1 year contract? That doesn't sit well with me. PG would at least need to pick up his 2021-22 player option if we are including both Huerter and an unprotected pick. We'd have to have EVERYTHING go perfectly for that 1 year. Agreed. Too much for PG with the ability to walk after a single season. He is good but isn't a superstar. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 I don't want to give all that up just for one year of PG13. Unless he agrees to stay longer then what is the point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/19/2020 at 10:40 AM, JayBirdHawk said: I have a mega 6 TEAM trade (my 1st one ever) based on @NBASupes Paul George to Atlanta/CP3 to LAC rumor. I don't think PG will be happy in Atlanta and I'm still debating the risk to Atlanta. So here goes: MIN - #6 from Atlanta and 2022 1st (top 5 protected) from SAS (since they end up with #1) - Minny gets what they are looking for, a move down and future 1st LAC - CP3 (41) and Derrick White (4) - Clippers move PG and Beverly to get CP3 and a back PG of the future. ATL - #11, Dinwiddie (11/PO), Allen(4/RFA), LeVert (16). Moves down in this draft, and breaks PG into smaller assets that fills roster needs. (Atlanta can take on additional salary if needed) SAS - #1, Beverly (13) - Spurs get the #1 pick to draft Wiseman and a replacement for White. OKC - #19, Prince(12) - OKC gets compensation for CP3 and reduces their tax bill. $41 million is still a lot of salary. BKN - PG (35), Dedmon (13), Bembry (3) Nets get their 3rd star to add to KD and Kyrie and a backup Center. Thoughts? What did I miss? Feel free to move different players to different teams, add, subtract as needed, 2nds or smallers assets. I tried adding DeRozan to go to Clippers but that would invole LAC sending out more players with salaries to match the $68 mil from CP3 and DeRozan. Salaries in parentheses. 3 hours ago, thecampster said: PG13 is about the Clips trying to create space and retool, not about the Hawks desperately wanting PG13. We are just the best fit for them moving him. We will do it if they make it worth our while. This would also be a multi team deal. Hawks have talked with Boston, Miami, Brooklyn, Philly, Toronto. I've added, my 6 team mega trade above re-routing PG to the Nets. Maybe I should work on one to each of the teams mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted October 28, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 hours ago, thecampster said: PG13 is about the Clips trying to create space and retool, not about the Hawks desperately wanting PG13. We are just the best fit for them moving him. We will do it if they make it worth our while. This would also be a multi team deal. If we are facilitating a deal between parties then giving up the #6, 2021 unprotected and Huerter to get the #1 to make the deal happen would need to involve some serious returning pieces. Hard to really think about this one without something like "and Miami gives Atlanta Bam" or something as the returning piece. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted October 28, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Am I the only one that would rather have ball or Edwards instead of pg13?? Georges fit here wouldn’t make any sense because he doesn’t fit our timeline. Edited October 28, 2020 by Dean Walker 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dean Walker said: Am I the only one that would rather have ball or Edwards instead of pg13?? Yep. And I don't even like PandemicP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 And no rookies fit our timeline because theyll all need multiple seasons to get to the point of helping us win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post High5 Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 I was fine with the hypothetical of us giving up #6 and a future pick for PG. But once you start including Huerter and other things it becomes too much for a likely one-year rental when we aren't contenders. I still don't think Schlenk is seriously contemplating moving up or trading for PG. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted October 28, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, High5 said: I was fine with the hypothetical of us giving up #6 and a future pick for PG. But once you start including Huerter and other things it becomes too much for a likely one-year rental when we aren't contenders. I still don't think Schlenk is seriously contemplating moving up or trading for PG. I don't either. The last thing we need is a malcontent and he didn't acquit himself well on the court or the locker room in the bubble. You an say it's all rumor but then way do the clips want him gone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted October 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 In the most shocking news of the offseason, Morey is about to join the Sixers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted October 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, High5 said: I was fine with the hypothetical of us giving up #6 and a future pick for PG. But once you start including Huerter and other things it becomes too much for a likely one-year rental when we aren't contenders. I still don't think Schlenk is seriously contemplating moving up or trading for PG. This become way too much for a rental in my eyes as well. That much is clear. That said, Atlanta is in talks to land #1 overall and we all know they likely won't keep the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, NBASupes said: In the most shocking news of the offseason, Morey is about to join the Sixers I thought you said he was blackballed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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