Cam Reddish--what we probably already knew!!!

[Wurider05]

Keeps getting better every month. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/player/gamelogs/2019/3042251

 

 

2019-20 SITUATIONAL STATS
CATEGORY	G	MIN	FG	FGA	FG3	FG3A	FT	FTA	REB	A	STL	BLK	PTS	AVG
October Games	5	126	9	43	1	18	7	8	23	11	8	1	26	5.2
November Games	12	280	32	100	12	43	19	25	37	18	7	4	95	7.9
December Games	14	397	46	128	18	58	21	28	59	22	17	7	131	9.4
January Games	7	185	25	64	12	30	12	14	21	12	10	6	74	10.6

[marco102]

32 minutes ago, Wurider05 said:

Keeps getting better every month. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/player/gamelogs/2019/3042251

 

 

2019-20 SITUATIONAL STATS
CATEGORY	G	MIN	FG	FGA	FG3	FG3A	FT	FTA	REB	A	STL	BLK	PTS	AVG
October Games	5	126	9	43	1	18	7	8	23	11	8	1	26	5.2
November Games	12	280	32	100	12	43	19	25	37	18	7	4	95	7.9
December Games	14	397	46	128	18	58	21	28	59	22	17	7	131	9.4
January Games	7	185	25	64	12	30	12	14	21	12	10	6	74	10.6

What Cam showed yesterday was eye popping in my opinion.  Along with @NBASupes, I've been one of the biggest Cam supporters out there. I thought his fit with our young core would be perfect if he hit on his potential.  That glimpse I saw yesterday gives me reason to believe that he has the ability to be the best all around player on the Hawks and number one option scoring ability.  He carried the team in the third quarter yesterday.  When he's on, his shot is so pure. Nothing but net.  

Mind you, that's no disrespect to the great Trae Young!  Cam just has all nba defensive potential, with playmaking and rebounding ability.  My lord if he takes a Trae Young jump over the next year, I may have to mortgage my house to get those front row seats.  

I'm just so happy for him!  He's a humble kid and all he gets is hate because of NBA Nerd Twitter.

Edited January 18, 2020 by marco102

[NBASupes]

3 minutes ago, marco102 said:

What Cam showed yesterday was eye popping in my opinion.  Along with @NBASupes, I've been one of the biggest Cam supporters out there. I thought his fit with our young core would be perfect if he hit on his potential.  That glimpse I saw yesterday gives me reason to believe that he has the ability to be the best all around player on the Hawks and number one option scoring ability.  He carried the team in the third quarter yesterday.  When he's on, his shot is so pure. Nothing but net.  

Mind you, that's no disrespect to the great Trae Young!  Cam just has all nba defensive potential, with playmaking and rebounding ability.  My lord if he takes a Trae Young jump over the next year, I may have to mortgage my house to get those front row seats.  

I'm just so happy for him!  He's a humble kid and all he gets is hate because of NBA Nerd Twitter.

Nerd Twitter loves PIPM, TAP, RAPM, KOBE, LOONEY TUNES, PER, etc. All of those metrics will be low on any player if they finish poorly and shoot poorly which Reddish has but now Reddish is getting to his level. We saw this with Trae last year. 

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Nerd Twitter loves PIPM, TAP, RAPM, KOBE, LOONEY TUNES, PER, etc. All of those metrics will be low on any player if they finish poorly and shoot poorly which Reddish has but now Reddish is getting to his level. We saw this with Trae last year. 

Wait........this is an actual thing? 

[marco102]

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Nerd Twitter loves PIPM, TAP, RAPM, KOBE, LOONEY TUNES, PER, etc. All of those metrics will be low on any player if they finish poorly and shoot poorly which Reddish has but now Reddish is getting to his level. We saw this with Trae last year. 

Cam Reddish finally looks like he's getting his NBA legs.  Yesterday, he was controlled he didn't look weak or off balance with anything he did.  I believe the game is slowing down for him.  

Coach LP said he's been putting in tons of work.  That's so encouraging because some tried to put out that he was not a hard worker.  If he continues to work he and us will be rewarded with one of the best two way young players in the game.  Book it!!!

I also don't care about those stats.  People just can't watch games and enjoy anymore.  The only stats I care about is TS% and EF% as far as "advanced" stats.  Those are the only ones I can truely understand how they are calculated. 

[NBASupes]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Wait........this is an actual thing? 

No, I just made it up like 90% of those shits they love to quote for Reddish or Trae

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Cam Reddish finally looks like he's getting his NBA legs.  Yesterday, he was controlled he didn't look weak or off balance with anything he did.  I believe the game is slowing down for him.  

Coach LP said he's been putting in tons of work.  That's so encouraging because some tried to put out that he was not a hard worker.  If he continues to work he and us will be rewarded with one of the best two way young players in the game.  Book it!!!

I also don't care about those stats.  People just can't watch games and enjoy anymore.  The only stats I care about is TS% and EF% as far as "advanced" stats.  Those are the only ones I can truely understand how they are calculated. 

I care more about his RAPTOR and WAR more than anything. Trae finished with a 0.8 WAR. That was pretty good. It's hard to play this many mins as a rookie on a bad team and have a positive WAR. If Cam can finish with a 2-2.5 WAR playing the mins he plays, I would elated. 

Edited January 18, 2020 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

No, I just made it up like 90% of those shits they love to quote for Reddish or Trae

[Spud2nique]

12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Wait........this is an actual thing? 

 

[Thomas]

1 hour ago, marco102 said:

Mind you, that's no disrespect to the great Trae Young!  Cam just has all nba defensive potential

Think with Trae's limitations on D that an outstanding perimeter defender has to be on the squad and getting good minutes. Cam is that already at the ripe old age of twenty.

[turnermx]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Think with Trae's limitations on D that an outstanding perimeter defender has to be on the squad and getting good minutes. Cam is that already at the ripe old age of twenty.

For me Hunter has more to prove, which is ironic, as he should be more ready to contribute.  But he hit a wall while Cam seems to be poised for a take off like Trae had last season.  I still think between the 3 we have 2 starters and a 6th man at the Wing.  Now we have a vet PG backup for Trae - which I don't know if you noticed in The Athletic article Schlenk actually wanted Jeff before the season started now he finally got him.

[Spud2nique]

Just now, turnermx said:

which I don't know if you noticed in The Athletic article Schlenk actually wanted Jeff before the season started now he finally got him.

Oh I actually missed that part! So he identified Jeff over the summer? Wow.

[turnermx]

3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Oh I actually missed that part! So he identified Jeff over the summer? Wow.

Yes it was an article day of trade I believe..

 

on 2k20 Trae is 4 overall PG Jeff 22  https://www.2kratings.com/top-50-point-guards-nba-2k20

BTW in my post above I meant to include Heurter.  for me Hunter is the man off the bench for now, once we get a legit starting C and move John to PF!

[hawkman]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Think with Trae's limitations on D that an outstanding perimeter defender has to be on the squad and getting good minutes. Cam is that already at the ripe old age of twenty.

I think Trae getting stronger and learning better technique will help him a ton defensively. He stands straight up on defense and gets caught flat footed. Speaking on Cam, the kid gets misread because he has that laid back personality. It takes a very high motor to play like he does on the defensive end and score like he does when his shot is on. He's not lazy at all and doesn't back down from defending the best the NBA has to offer. You can't teach that type of motor.

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, hawkman said:

He's not lazy at all and doesn't back down from defending the best the NBA has to offer.

That right there is pretty stunning really. Writers might not get it but opposing scorers sure do.

[turnermx]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

That right there is pretty stunning really. Writers might not get it but opposing scorers sure do.

Cam can defend so well without fouling thats whats so impressive. It is even more difficult to do against players the league protects that he has to guard every game.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, turnermx said:

Yes it was an article day of trade I believe..

 

on 2k20 Trae is 4 overall PG Jeff 22  https://www.2kratings.com/top-50-point-guards-nba-2k20

BTW in my post above I meant to include Heurter.  for me Hunter is the man off the bench for now, once we get a legit starting C and move John to PF!

I forget are you ps or Xbox?

[turnermx]

7 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I forget are you ps or Xbox?

PS

[Spud2nique]

I will say I liked Cam from the start. I thought he was initially a Tmac type of player, just a smooth cat on O that glides to the rim and had a sweet easy looking stroke. Had so much faith I bought his jersey before he stepped on the court. (Did that with Marvin too..2 jerseys ).

 

What I didn’t know about Cam. 
 

1. Defense- I see him as a Kobe type defender. Supes sees him as Tony Allen. Both first team defense staples in the league. I didn’t know he took so much pride in D and got after it. This fact alone makes him a top 5 pick in this past draft. If nothing else and struggling on offense, he never gave up on the other end. It take heart and desire.  

2. professionalism- I didn’t know he was such a professional and mature young man. When you watch a million college film 🎞 on guys, sometimes you get a quick sense of their personality and move onto their game. Since Cam was quiet, I thought he was the “too cool for school” type quiet. That’s not the case, he’s quiet because he’s letting his game speak for him, huge sign of maturity and respect around the league noticed by other players no doubt... recruiting will be easy.

Like @marco102 mention our general Trae is our best player and no disrespect, but we may have superstar #2 not far behind.

 

Oh, and shoutout to our Marty Blake @NBASupes for discovering a talent like Cam. 

Edited January 18, 2020 by Spud2nique

[Gray Mule]

Regardless of where they were taken, the Hawks got two top ten picks in the last draft.  Then, finding someone asleep, they moved in and grabbed Bruno.  We're not lucky.  We're good!

Our youth have, of necessity, played more minutes than any rookie should.  The top two, any way.  Bruno doesn't get many minutes.  He's learning, too.

Looking forward to watching our two new Hawks tonight.  @NBASupes says that more trades are in the works.  Just waiting for all the little things to fall into place.  The closer to the trade deadline, the easier they fall.  Hurry up and wait.  

GO ATL HAWKS !!