NBASupes Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, High5 said: I feel like the % doesn't really matter much until you're at 100+%. The Knicks still have 2,800 more people showing up to their games. Bigger arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, NBASupes said: Bigger arena But my point is that we're not at capacity so the fact that MSG has more seats doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, High5 said: But my point is that we're not at capacity so the fact that MSG has more seats doesn't really matter. Well New York also has more people too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted January 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Amazing what having a real, true superstar player does for fan engagement and ticket sales. This team has to make big trades this offseason to put together a team NOW to go with Trae. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sothron said: Amazing what having a real, true superstar player does for fan engagement and ticket sales. This team has to make big trades this offseason to put together a team NOW to go with Trae. This team does not really need much. 1. A starting center who's a vet 2. Some really good bench players to go along with one of our wings and Jeff. That's about it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, NBASupes said: This team does not really need much. 1. A starting center who's a vet 2. Some really good bench players to go along with one of our wings and Jeff. That's about it. 1. Adams 2. Harrell, Beasley co signed : 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 People can say what they want but this team gets Adams, they instantly become good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, EazyRoc said: Well New York also has more people too We averaged ~1,400 more in 2015, so there are paying fans still available to be won over. But I think our attendance is fine for where we're at. I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to compare by % of max capacity when neither team is at max capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, High5 said: We averaged ~1,400 more in 2015, so there are paying fans still available to be won over. But I think our attendance is fine for where we're at. I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense to compare by % of max capacity when neither team is at max capacity. On average, our tickets are a lot more expensive now than then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 35 minutes ago, NBASupes said: This team does not really need much. 1. A starting center who's a vet 2. Some really good bench players to go along with one of our wings and Jeff. That's about it. Demarcus Cousins would make a solid gamble in free agency. As a Backup of course. That's also if Len's not available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, NBASupes said: On average, our tickets are a lot more expensive now than then. Really? Dang by the time I get there it’ll be crazy loot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 hours ago, NBASupes said: On average, our tickets are a lot more expensive now than then. Oh, I can attest to that. I paid $96 for Opening night tickets this year in section 115. It used to be an easy $42. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Wretch Posted January 21, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Ya'll: "We need to go out and win games then people will come!" "Atlanta is a city full of transplants, that's why nobody shows up. These are all fans of other teams." "This is a football city. The south in general really. This town will never support basketball." "We just need to change the culture and attitude. If we mirror the Spurs, we'll make dedicated, lifelong fans." "It's management. We need better management." Wretch and some other folks: "Willing will help, but we need a star. We haven't had one since the 80's." Ya'll: "Pfft.... STFU." lol.... Now, watch what happens when we get a 1b. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Wretch Posted January 21, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Winning not "willing"... stupid autocorrect. I'm willing to help too tho. Edited January 21, 2020 by Wretch 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted January 21, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 Atlanta comes out for stars. Trae has that star power. I think Cam will bust out next year and folks will love him too, they already do. The future is so bright. I think we get lost in the weeds of our struggles. At this point in the BK rebuild the ceiling was so much lower although the floor was higher. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted January 21, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, macdaddy said: Atlanta comes out for stars. Trae has that star power. I think Cam will bust out next year and folks will love him too, they already do. The future is so bright. I think we get lost in the weeds of our struggles. At this point in the BK rebuild the ceiling was so much lower although the floor was higher. I think the biggest problem for the BK/ASG era was WLOCAOCS (-And our coaching staff). We should have been willing to deal core pieces while they had value instead of building a golden fortress around them. We should have acted faster on coaching changes. If you pay attention to the really successful teams, they don't sit on their hands. Not long... and not unless they are WINNING-winning....like conference finals and NBA Finals type winning. Even then, you see guys get dealt and coaches/GM's getting axed. I'd never advocate knee-jerk nonsense, but true winners make big moves. Sensible yes, but they swing for the fences. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted January 21, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 95% capacity is great in my opinion. There are way more than 5% of the seats I wouldn't even pay 20 bucks for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 21 hours ago, Wretch said: I think the biggest problem for the BK/ASG era was WLOCAOCS (-And our coaching staff). We should have been willing to deal core pieces while they had value instead of building a golden fortress around them. We should have acted faster on coaching changes. If you pay attention to the really successful teams, they don't sit on their hands. Not long... and not unless they are WINNING-winning....like conference finals and NBA Finals type winning. Even then, you see guys get dealt and coaches/GM's getting axed. I'd never advocate knee-jerk nonsense, but true winners make big moves. Sensible yes, but they swing for the fences. I've been saying this for how long on this board? Even back in the '80s, teams like the Pistons were still bringing in REAL players by trading Adrian Dantley for Mark Aguirre and adding James Edwards to fortify their bench; two championship parades followed. What did the Hawks do during that time? Cry 'salary cap' (see Koncak, Jon) and kept bringing in scrubs who couldn't beat Georgia State on a good night. No small wonder how the rest of the East back then (see Knicks, Pacers, Cavs, et al) quickly passed them by. This has been the franchise's modus operandi since the Omni's foundation began to settle in. The exact, same tactic was used in the Lenny days, the BK error (spelled correctly) and the Sund/WLOC years. Folks in town who knew better and read the same script in 1983 didn't want to watch the sequel in 1992 and stayed home or said 'eff this' by following MJ or the Braves instead. Case closed. For the first time since the Nique days, we finally have a guy who can draw folks to the building without having giveaways at the gate. From the time I started realizing that, I stated that the front office need to move Heaven and Earth to ensure that they don't do to him what their predecessors did to Nique, Steve Smith, or Joe Johnson. While I'm not suggesting that they throw out Hunter or Reddish with the bath water, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth either. Strike while the iron is still hot... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dejay said: I've been saying this for how long on this board? Even back in the '80s, teams like the Pistons were still bringing in REAL players by trading Adrian Dantley for Mark Aguirre and adding James Edwards to fortify their bench; two championship parades followed. What did the Hawks do during that time? Cry 'salary cap' (see Koncak, Jon) and kept bringing in scrubs who couldn't beat Georgia State on a good night. No small wonder how the rest of the East back then (see Knicks, Pacers, Cavs, et al) quickly passed them by. Remember the Pistons accent to power way too vividly and for some other salt to the wound the way we were played by them on the Koncak contract. Painful stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Thomas said: Remember the Pistons accent to power way too vividly and for some other salt to the wound the way we were played by them on the Koncak contract. Painful stuff. I remember all right. They played Stan like a kid does Madden on a PS4. Not only did Kasten bite (hard) on the one-year offer sheet but gave him a six-year extension to boot despite Koncak coming off knee surgery. Then they doubled down on stupid by hiring the very man who gave another stiff out west a big contract (see Rasmussen, Blair), only to watch him bring said stiff to town with him. Throw in the Adam Keefe draft pick in '92 and you couldn't give tickets away back then. The rest of the league was laughing as the Hawks were being escorted to salary cap hell one way, no stops, express ticket-style... Edited January 22, 2020 by Dejay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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