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On 8/11/2020 at 5:25 AM, JTB said:

Huh? Why shouldn’t green be in the nba??? He’s a 3pt specialist who’s always been a good defender everywhere he’s went damn near. In fact McGee and Howard who helps make up this large front court the lakers have has both been studs all season long offensively and defensively at the rim. Lakers haven’t shot the ball well from 3 all season long as a team and they don’t take many 3s in terms of avg per game like many other teams do but they have a great tendency of sticking with their strengths! what they have that other teams don’t is a massively large and today uncommon very good front court rotation that teams can’t handle!
 

Davis, Lebron, Kuzma, McGee, Howard has been manning down the paint all season long offensively and defensively.
 

Just like the bucks, lakers are the absolute best when it comes to scoring in the paint and defending it. Bucks of course has more shooters but when playoff time starts historically mid range and post play is majority of the time  always a better strategy to advance in the playoffs than 3s are even in this era despite some of those Golden State championship years that has everyone wanting to launch 50-60 threes per game and people can’t seem to wake up and realize that golden state has two hall of famer 3pt shooters both being great with the ball in their hands and off ball.
 

Take the rockets for example...I’m still not convinced they are getting past the first rd despite having a winning record vs good teams in both conferences since the trade deadline. One they rely heavily and in my opinion stupidly too much on the 3 ball but they’ve made it known that they are ok living or dying by the 3 ball but the other huge issue with this team is actually  Harden! Dude  is the complete opposite in the playoffs and all his numbers go down in the playoffs (look it up not hard to find)...yet he wants to claim he’s up there with the greatest scorers to ever play...yeah ok 🙄...how many playoffs he need to even be his regular season self???

 

Back to the Lakers ....they are deep when you look at the front court...I’m not trying to change your opinion or argue with you but I’m just throwing out some facts based on the Lakers having the 2nd best record in the nba and based on where they are ranked as a team in certain categories....so a few facts: this is Lebrons best defensive team he’s been on since Miami and this is the first time in 4 seasons lebron himself  defensively is looking like a actual good defender. However you’re right it’s not his best shooting team at all but it is one of his best if not best 2pt teams and one of the best all around defensive teams he’s been on. Those cavs teams that went to finals were horrible in defense in most years but the east couldn’t keep up with the scoring of lebron and kyrie. They didn’t defend they just out scored every one. Anyways I wouldn’t be shocked if the lakers won it all purely due to having more size and length than majority teams in the nba.

Best big man rotations are on the 1 seeds bucks and lakers , yet most teams in the league still want to play this small ball bullshit.

personally while I don’t think you need as much front court depth the lakers and bucks have particularly talking big man depth here...I do think all teams need good depth in the front court say like the raptors. Raptors are built to where they can handle any type of lineup big or small thrown at them (warriors were like this too when they had bogut/zaza)...this  is what I hope the hawks pursue. We are close now that we have capela and Collins...hopefully Bruno pans out and dedmon gets back to his old self and that will be a big help in winning games next season.

You watching Danny Green tonight? lol

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On 8/10/2020 at 9:27 PM, Peoriabird said:

Davis still looks soft and is inconsistent.  The Lakers have the worst offense in the bubble and are at risk to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs vs Portland.

Hes playing like shit right now...And the Lakers depth is trash...

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11 hours ago, terrell said:

Hes playing like shit right now...And the Lakers depth is trash...

AD may have a bad game but he is still going to be productive.  He finished with 28 and 11 last night (with 4 blocks/steals) in a very rough game for him.

The bolded part is what is going to kill the Lakers.  They lost Avery Bradley and Rajan Rondo and they needed productive depth in the worst way.  

People have been bashing Green as washed up on here and there is truth in that.  But he was the best of the other three starters last night.  McGee never is going to give much and KCP someone managed only a single point in over 29 minutes on the floor.  How do you even do that?  

If you pull the top 2 players off every team in the bubble, the Lakers have by far the worst team in the league.

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13 hours ago, terrell said:

Hes playing like shit right now...And the Lakers depth is trash...

Their depth been trash all year. They primarily are only effective when paired with Bron and in the playoffs, the starters play a lot more so it's a lot harder for rotation players 

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For Giannis rental, its simple: 

Off the table:

Cam, Trae, Hunter and Capela

We need the two way wings and Capela and Trae is our franchise player. 

On the table:

John, Kevin, and our 2020 1st. 

If you can top that and MIL is willing to do it, congrats! But I don't see how anyone can top that and have a good squad after trading for Giannis.

 

Trae

Cam

Hunter 

Giannis

Capela

We would need to fill out the bench.

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14 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

For Giannis rental, its simple: 

Off the table:

Cam, Trae, Hunter and Capela

We need the two way wings and Capela and Trae is our franchise player. 

On the table:

John, Kevin, and our 2020 1st. 

If you can top that and MIL is willing to do it, congrats! But I don't see how anyone can top that and have a good squad after trading for Giannis.

 

Trae

Cam

Hunter 

Giannis

Capela

We would need to fill out the bench.

You would rather trade JC than Capela?

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6 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

You would rather trade JC than Capela?

Yes. Giannis and JC take the same space on offense and neither are centers at all on defense. Giannis is a freelance defender like Millsap. He's a superior defensive fit with Capela.

Offensively, we need someone who's great at the PnR so both work with Giannis, I do like JC ability to stretch the floor more though. Offensively, JC is not a fit with Giannis but he's a better fit than Capela. For Trae's sake we need one of them (JC or Capela).

Overall, I don't see MIL trading him. Rental packages usually suck outside of what the Pels got for AD but that's because LAL was desperate and Bron is old. Even this offer is a clear overpay for Atlanta for a Giannis rental. I was just posting a package I thought would be clearly the best on the market. 

The best I can see is a Wiggins and two 1sts for Giannis.

But JC and our 1st should be more than enough. 

Most lottery teams lack the assets to make a trade and be able to keep him. 

I do think Denver has a chance: MPJ and Gary Harris package.

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5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Yes. Giannis and JC take the same space on offense and neither are centers at all on defense. Giannis is a freelance defender like Millsap. He's a superior defensive fit with Capela.

Offensively, we need someone who's great at the PnR so both work with Giannis, I do like JC ability to stretch the floor more though. Offensively, JC is not a fit with Giannis but he's a better fit than Capela. For Trae's sake we need one of them (JC or Capela).

Overall, I don't see MIL trading him. Rental packages usually suck outside of what the Pels got for AD but that's because LAL was desperate and Bron is old. Even this offer is a clear overpay for Atlanta for a Giannis rental. I was just posting a package I thought would be clearly the best on the market. 

The best I can see is a Wiggins and two 1sts for Giannis.

But JC and our 1st should be more than enough. 

Most lottery teams lack the assets to make a trade and be able to keep him. 

I do think Denver has a chance: MPJ and Gary Harris package.

I would be very surprised if they traded him. They will beg him to resign until the very end. AD basically had to throw a tantrum the before they traded him, and Giannis is not going to do that, he has a good relationship with the organization.

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1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Yes. Giannis and JC take the same space on offense and neither are centers at all on defense.

But that's even more so for Giannis and Capela. JC at least has a 3 point shot and can PnP. Giannis struggles from 3, Capela doesn't at all. I agree on the defense at C but I'd rather take my chances with Giannis/JC vs Giannis/Capela.

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1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

But that's even more so for Giannis and Capela. JC at least has a 3 point shot and can PnP. Giannis struggles from 3, Capela doesn't at all. I agree on the defense at C but I'd rather take my chances with Giannis/JC vs Giannis/Capela.

I mentioned that he has range over Capela. I rather Giannis and Capela just due to defense where they fit but I would rather trade Capela for Turner. 

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4 hours ago, AHF said:

AD may have a bad game but he is still going to be productive.  He finished with 28 and 11 last night (with 4 blocks/steals) in a very rough game for him.

The bolded part is what is going to kill the Lakers.  They lost Avery Bradley and Rajan Rondo and they needed productive depth in the worst way.  

People have been bashing Green as washed up on here and there is truth in that.  But he was the best of the other three starters last night.  McGee never is going to give much and KCP someone managed only a single point in over 29 minutes on the floor.  How do you even do that?  

If you pull the top 2 players off every team in the bubble, the Lakers have by far the worst team in the league.

This is why I said a Championship this year will be one of LBJ greatest accomplishments..

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3 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Their depth been trash all year. They primarily are only effective when paired with Bron and in the playoffs, the starters play a lot more so it's a lot harder for rotation players 

I know. Ive been telling folks this is a lottery team without LBJ..lol..

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36 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m sorry my body shivered as I went straight to EVAN (HEAT font).

Myles is better than Evan, but hes soft as Charmin.lol

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2 minutes ago, terrell said:

Myles is better than Evan, but hes soft as Charmin.lol

Yes I’ve heard some rumblings about Samurai Myles, more of a yellow belt Shotokan type player if you ask me. Nerf accessories included! 

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55 minutes ago, terrell said:

This is why I said a Championship this year will be one of LBJ greatest accomplishments..

Yeah, he has a great co-star but the Lakers make LeBron's Cleveland Cavs look like the model of quality depth.

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37 minutes ago, AHF said:

Yeah, he has a great co-star but the Lakers make LeBron's Cleveland Cavs look like the model of quality depth.

And IM not so sure about AD's greatness when it matters..He usually shrinks in the 4th qtr..(avg 4.5 points)..Those aren't exactly Trae Young numbers...lol

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4 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Yes. Giannis and JC take the same space on offense and neither are centers at all on defense. Giannis is a freelance defender like Millsap. He's a superior defensive fit with Capela.

Offensively, we need someone who's great at the PnR so both work with Giannis, I do like JC ability to stretch the floor more though. Offensively, JC is not a fit with Giannis but he's a better fit than Capela. For Trae's sake we need one of them (JC or Capela).

Overall, I don't see MIL trading him. Rental packages usually suck outside of what the Pels got for AD but that's because LAL was desperate and Bron is old. Even this offer is a clear overpay for Atlanta for a Giannis rental. I was just posting a package I thought would be clearly the best on the market. 

The best I can see is a Wiggins and two 1sts for Giannis.

But JC and our 1st should be more than enough. 

Most lottery teams lack the assets to make a trade and be able to keep him. 

I do think Denver has a chance: MPJ and Gary Harris package.

Sorry, but no chance does JC and our 1st land the MVP of the league. Would probably have to add one of our wings and another first just to keep them from immediately hanging up. 

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