Giannis will be a Hawk

[bird_dirt]

4 hours ago, NBASupes said:

For Giannis rental, its simple: 

Off the table:

Cam, Trae, Hunter and Capela

We need the two way wings and Capela and Trae is our franchise player. 

On the table:

John, Kevin, and our 2020 1st. 

If you can top that and MIL is willing to do it, congrats! But I don't see how anyone can top that and have a good squad after trading for Giannis.

 

Trae

Cam

Hunter 

Giannis

Capela

We would need to fill out the bench.

I'd be surprised if this is all it would take to get Giannis, but if it were, let me throw in a scenario along these lines. 

Say we luck into the #1 pick this year.

Who here would be willing to trade JC, Kevin, and Ant Edwards for one year of Giannis with NO guarantee of him resigning?

Guaranteed years of young talent under team control -OR- a one year shot at greatness with Giannis and no certainty after that year? What would you do?

I'd have to pause thinking about that one. If Giannis agrees to sign, of course it would be a no-brainer. But without that promise, we'd be worse off than we are today, losing years of impact. 

If we drew #2 or lower, I'd probably go with Giannis with no guarantee. But if we got #1, I'd probably keep what we have and try to make a big push for him in FAcy.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, terrell said:

And IM not so sure about AD's greatness when it matters..He usually shrinks in the 4th qtr..(avg 4.5 points)..Those aren't exactly Trae Young numbers...lol

If you look at his career, he is a little under 7 points on average in the fourth quarter.  In his previous playoff runs, he averaged over 8 points in the 4th quarter.  His injury risk is the only real worry I have for him.

If you look at how the Lakers do things with AD and LeBron, AD takes the larger share in the 1st and 3rd quarters and LeBron takes the larger share in the 2nd and 4th quarters.

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, terrell said:

And IM not so sure about AD's greatness when it matters..He usually shrinks in the 4th qtr..(avg 4.5 points)..Those aren't exactly Trae Young numbers...lol

That 4.5 points is surprising.

[Peoriabird]

AD is overrated period!  End of story!

[Spud2nique]

26 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

AD is overrated period!  End of story!

@AHFin 5...4...3

[AHF]

On 8/19/2020 at 5:12 PM, Spud2nique said:

@AHFin 5...4...3

Guess who won game 2 for them?

LA was up by so much after Q3 that Davis and the rest of the starters basically didn't even play in the fourth.

[kg01]

On 8/19/2020 at 5:08 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

That 4.5 points is surprising.

Not really.  Gotta factor in all the games he left with amputated legs only to find it was just a hangnail

[NBASupes]

 

[bird_dirt]

I hate Miami 

[JayBirdHawk]

Interesting perspective:

Quote

Giannis Antetokounmpo is one of the NBA's most inscrutable superstars as a probable two-time MVP, but that could be by design on his part.

"Sort of Giannis being this private superstar: someone close to him told me... I'm like 'Yeah, Giannis, it's his nature to be private. He's a little more Duncan-y in his approach to superstardom," said Kevin Arnovitz on The Lowe Post podcast.

"And they're like 'Yeah, that's not really it.'

"And I said 'What is it?'

"They're like 'He finds it unseemly to preen as the face of the league before you win a championship. Like it would be unconscionable for him to do that because it just is so not in his nature the idea that anybody would preen before they won a title.'

"That's the one thing the Bucks have going for them. He's insanely hard on himself. And it might not be in his nature to blame an organization for falling short of potential. But who the hell knows, Zach?"

Antetokounmpo can sign a supermax extension with the Milwaukee Bucks this offseason and will be a free agent in 2021 if he doesn't.

"I don't know," replied Zach Lowe. "The vibe everybody gets from Giannis, and this is all second, third-hand whatever... is that he probably would like to stay. I think he likes Milwaukee. He met his partner in Milwaukee. He has a son now in Milwaukee. I think he likes being the best player on a team and having it be his team. It's clearly his team. But I think the case for the Bucks all along, and I think they would be honest about this if you asked them about it, the case for them all along has been winning. Winning championships. The ability to win championships. That's the case for almost every star player."

 

KEVIN ARNOVITZ, ZACH LOWE/ESPN

[bleachkit]

On 9/3/2020 at 10:14 AM, NBASupes said:

 

Supposedly his family hates cold weather, so that puts Miami ahead of Toronto, where it's cold like 9 months a year.

[Dean Walker]

On 9/3/2020 at 10:48 AM, bird_dirt said:

I hate Miami 

I do to but we have to admit their culture is legit.

[Dean Walker]

On 9/3/2020 at 10:14 AM, NBASupes said:

 

Questionable fits to be honest.

he’d fit much better in Golden State.

[AHF]

On 9/6/2020 at 8:49 AM, Dean Walker said:

I do to but we have to admit their culture is legit.

On 9/6/2020 at 8:51 AM, Dean Walker said:

Questionable fits to be honest.

he’d fit much better in Golden State.

I think his reputation would be trashed if he went there ala Durant's diminished reputation coming out of GS.  If Giannis wants to go somewhere, he needs to pick a place without a recent championship, imo.

[Dean Walker]

15 minutes ago, AHF said:

I think his reputation would be trashed if he went there ala Durant's diminished reputation coming out of GS.  If Giannis wants to go somewhere, he needs to pick a place without a recent championship, imo.

Yeah I see what you mean, he has to blaze his own trail I get it.

I see him fitting in Toronto much better than Miami though.

don't think him and Bam can coexist.

[parfait]

Who says no on this ATL trade for Giannis?

Collins

Dedmon

Huerter

2020 #6

2022 OKC pick

[Dean Walker]

11 minutes ago, parfait said:

Who says no on this ATL trade for Giannis?

Collins

Dedmon

Huerter

2020 #6

2022 OKC pick

Milwaukee, add our 2021 pick and maybe we’ll have a chance.

[bird_dirt]

59 minutes ago, Dean Walker said:

Milwaukee, add our 2021 pick and maybe we’ll have a chance.

I don't think you can trade your own draft pick in consecutive years. 

[AHF]

7 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

I don't think you can trade your own draft pick in consecutive years. 

You can’t if they are future picks.

[Dean Walker]

10 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

I don't think you can trade your own draft pick in consecutive years. 

Yeah you’re right due to the stepien rule.

so we’ll have no shot basically lol.