Let's Talk Draft Picks

[RedDawg#8]

I dont foresee a scenario in which ANY of the potential draft picks we could make would crack the starting lineup next year. We will have (1) 3rd year guy in Huerter and (2) 2nd year guys in Reddish and Hunter vying for only 2 starting spots, and there is a case to be made for each of them based on play and potential. Edwards and Ball are the only 2 guys that would have a serious chance and even that is a long shot.

Melo, would not work for this roster due to the prescence of Trae.

Edwards, I would want as a James Harden 6th man, coming in gunning. But even in the best case his presence will interfere with the development of Cam Reddish/Huerter to some degree.

Every other name in this draft becomes a bench player or specialist.

[AHF]

1 minute ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I dont foresee a scenario in which ANY of the potential draft picks we could make would crack the starting lineup next year. We will have (1) 3rd year guy in Huerter and (2) 2nd year guys in Reddish and Hunter vying for only 2 starting spots, and there is a case to be made for each of them based on play and potential. Edwards and Ball are the only 2 guys that would have a serious chance and even that is a long shot.

Melo, would not work for this roster due to the prescence of Trae.

Edwards, I would want as a James Harden 6th man, coming in gunning. But even in the best case his presence will interfere with the development of Cam Reddish/Huerter to some degree.

Every other name in this draft becomes a bench player or specialist.

That is largely my view.  While our top pick earning a spot in the lineup would be gravy, I expect that player will be coming off the bench and being a part of the rotation but in a support/developmental role as opposed to being looked on to carry or lead the team.  Unless we have an injury or the rookie comes out much more Day 1 ready that I'd anticipate, we are looking at a starting lineup of:

PG:  Trae

SG/SF:  2 of out Huerter, Reddish and Hunter

PF:  Collins

C.:  Capela

Rook will be learning and earning a spot down the line (or not).  

This is similar to my expectation for FA acquisitions.  Any FAs we sign will be adding depth to the team but are unlikely to be a player who comes in and grabs a starting job next season.

[JayBirdHawk]

[macdaddy]

17 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Edwards, I would want as a James Harden 6th man, coming in gunning. But even in the best case his presence will interfere with the development of Cam Reddish/Huerter to some degree.

i agree with the first part not the second.  i can't think of a better place for Edwards to come in.  If he is good he'll push those guys to be better and provide some real punch off the bench.  Best part is we don't need him to make big contributions right away.   

Everyone is lamenting missing on Porter and Bol.   This is a higher pick for sure but in this draft i'd take a chance on Edwards becoming a star and if he doesn't not sweat it too much.  

[bleachkit]

Free agency is important for us this year. Get some decent vets. 

[JTB]

37 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

There is zero percent chance LP would put Edwards in the starting lineup next year. Same for Okoro 

Depends on how quickly they adjust to the nba after a year. I won’t argue that, the point is he could start at some point and the odd man out would be Hunter by assumption 

15 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Free agency is important for us this year. Get some decent vets. 

Absolutely...it’s extremely critical 

[kg01]

47 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

You mean Joe Jackson?

 

42 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Huh?

This conversation is like ...

[NBASupes]

14 minutes ago, JTB said:

Depends on how quickly they adjust to the nba after a year. I won’t argue that, the point is he could start at some point and the odd man out would be Hunter by assumption 

Absolutely...it’s extremely critical 

We gonna miss bad in FA. Weak class and all of the key impact players or key guys who can help or the underrated gems are either returning or going to teams who can offer a lot more PT. It's gonna be the trade market for us. 

[RedDawg#8]

17 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

i agree with the first part not the second.  i can't think of a better place for Edwards to come in.  If he is good he'll push those guys to be better and provide some real punch off the bench.  Best part is we don't need him to make big contributions right away.   

True but, there is only so much basketball to share, especially with a ball dominant PG in Trae. i feel like the next step for both Cam and Huerter was to look more for their own shot. Cam specifically could unlock another layer of his game as a creator. Having Edwards means less ball for either him or Cam, neither is ideal

[RedDawg#8]

The plus side is Edwards is the exact kind of big Combo guard we need to relieve pressure off of Trae to generate all offense

 

 

[bleachkit]

With the paucity of game film on many of the guys, pre draft work outs are going to be huge.

[Peoriabird]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

SG/SF:  2 of out Huerter, Reddish and Hunter

 

I really don't see these positions being interchageable

[NBASupes]

23 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

I really don't see these positions being interchageable

Not at this time. 

[JTB]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

We gonna miss bad in FA. Weak class and all of the key impact players or key guys who can help or the underrated gems are either returning or going to teams who can offer a lot more PT. It's gonna be the trade market for us. 

Yeah I can see it playing out like that and that’s unfortunate. I hope we don’t lose in trades either and by that I mean if we do get the first pick and plan on trading  it I Hope Schlenk isn’t planning to trade it just for the hell of it!

Sometimes I like the idea of getting the first pick to trade it and gain more assets then sometimes it scares me away because I feel like damn what if Edwards or LaMelo really turn out to be good ! What if they have a surprise year right out the gates?! We’d be kicking ourselves 

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

I really don't see these positions being interchageable

 

44 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Not at this time. 

The positions aren't interchangeable but Reddish is the swing guy here so you could have any of the following options:

#1

SG:  Reddish

SF:  Hunter

 

#2

SG:  Huerter

SF:  Hunter

 

#3

SG:  Huerter

SF:  Reddish

 

So it is 2 of those 3 starting at those positions even though Huerter and Hunter are not in competition for the starting role with each other. Reddish is the one who introduces the uncertainty.  

[Peoriabird]

57 minutes ago, AHF said:

 

The positions aren't interchangeable but Reddish is the swing guy here so you could have any of the following options:

#1

SG:  Reddish

SF:  Hunter

 

#2

SG:  Huerter

SF:  Hunter

 

#3

SG:  Huerter

SF:  Reddish

 

So it is 2 of those 3 starting at those positions even though Huerter and Hunter are not in competition for the starting role with each other. Reddish is the one who introduces the uncertainty.  

I don't agree...Reddish can play the 3 on a losing team for sure just like Carter can play the 4 on a losing team but I certainly don't think Cam is best utilized at the 3

[terrell]

6 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I dont foresee a scenario in which ANY of the potential draft picks we could make would crack the starting lineup next year. We will have (1) 3rd year guy in Huerter and (2) 2nd year guys in Reddish and Hunter vying for only 2 starting spots, and there is a case to be made for each of them based on play and potential. Edwards and Ball are the only 2 guys that would have a serious chance and even that is a long shot.

Melo, would not work for this roster due to the prescence of Trae.

Edwards, I would want as a James Harden 6th man, coming in gunning. But even in the best case his presence will interfere with the development of Cam Reddish/Huerter to some degree.

Every other name in this draft becomes a bench player or specialist.

Thats the way its supposed to be imo....Our 2 1st rdrs(especially Hunter) played way too many min as 1st yr wings. There are plenty of times when they(mainly Cam) should've been on the bench watching instead of playing.. The experience should help next season though, like it did after the All Star break..

Edited August 13, 2020 by terrell

[bleachkit]

6 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Countdown to the draft lottery in a crapshoot draft year. Ah yes, the joys of being a Hawks fan. 

[terrell]

7 hours ago, kg01 said:

  One of these things is not like the other.

There's little regard for Hunter on all boards, to be honest.  Folks are way down on him.

Im not.

[terrell]

7 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

Somebody please educate me and help me understand why Issac Okoro is a better small forward than De'Andre Hunter in the NBA.  @NBASupes@Spud2nique Somebody...Anybody

Hes not...THey have different games though..