Premium Member BangHolman Posted November 13, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 9 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said: Random thought thats been bugging me today: Why is it that we are so hard on Edwards and criticize his shooting to the point of comparing him to Wiggins and Waiters, but we are willing to give Lamelo Ball a pass on his shooting which was worse than Edwards in every single category? Why is Edwards such a negative prospect on here (despite consensus praise from the outside) but Ball would be welcome with open arms? Ball has dealt with immaturity issues, playing on non winning teams overseas despite being the best player. Poor shot selection, lack of defensive effort, flashy/wreckless play style, etc.... It seems like we ignore all of his red flags because he can pass I guess. I question his athleticism and if he will actually be able to compete with NBA athletes. He also has way worse shot selection than Edwards, or even a Trae at that same age. I really feel like we type cast a young man like Edwards based on things that have nothing to do with basketball. And when we compare apples to apples on the court we get quiet about Lamelo Ball's flaws. Just my thought pattern today. Carry on. We're mostly rumored to be "highly intrigued by Edwards" and "looking for ways to move up" for him by media outlets, so he's getting the negative feedback. I think Ball would get the same if the media was spinning a narrative for the Hawks and him like they are for Edwards. I don't want either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 13, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Edwards has had so little stability in his short career. Good coaching and training and he'll be a good player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 13, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, BangHolman said: We're mostly rumored to be "highly intrigued by Edwards" and "looking for ways to move up" for him by media outlets, so he's getting the negative feedback. I think Ball would get the same if the media was spinning a narrative for the Hawks and him like they are for Edwards. I don't want either. I don't know if we need to move up. For 2 reasons. 1. Edwards may fall 2. Edwards may not produce more than Others in this draft. Which is why he may fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted November 13, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Diesel said: I don't know if we need to move up. For 2 reasons. 1. Edwards may fall 2. Edwards may not produce more than Others in this draft. Which is why he may fall. I wouldn't move up. The difference between Edwards and a guy we can draft at 6 (this year) isn't enough to include additional assets. If he falls, sure, but I wouldn't move up to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 17, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 17, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Travis hasn't let us down yet in terms of at least being bold on draft day. Hopefully this is the case this year. It sure feels like we are going to end up drafting at 6 and signing some middling free agents. I still think/hope we are either going to move up to top 4 or move down to bring in a good vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted November 18, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Hey Squawkers: IT'S DRAFT DAY!!! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 12:44 PM, BangHolman said: I wouldn't move up. The difference between Edwards and a guy we can draft at 6 (this year) isn't enough to include additional assets. If he falls, sure, but I wouldn't move up to do it. ... I wouldn't even do it if he falls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted November 18, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, kg01 said: ... I wouldn't even do it if he falls. Definitely not after that latest interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, BangHolman said: Definitely not after that latest interview. Did you read the entire interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted November 18, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, marco102 said: Did you read the entire interview? Yes, he's all over the place he doesn't love basketball, and I've never liked him to begin with (I'll admit there's bias). He's not someone I would want to invest millions into, and I just see Andrew Wiggins 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 hace 12 minutos, BangHolman dijo: Yes, he's all over the place he doesn't love basketball, and I've never liked him to begin with (I'll admit there's bias). He's not someone I would want to invest millions into, and I just see Andrew Wiggins 2.0. I said the same in other post, Wiggins 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Wiggins never had the physical tools Edwards has though... so I don't see him being that disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 18, 2020 Author Moderators Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, warcore said: Wiggins never had the physical tools Edwards has though... so I don't see him being that disappointing. Wiggins was definitely lauded for his physical tools. Quote NBA Comparison: Vince Carter/Rudy Gay Strengths: Off the charts run/jump athleticism … Lateral quickness and length also gives him great potential as a perimeter defender, along with versatility to guard both wing positions efficiently … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, AHF said: Wiggins was definitely lauded for his physical tools. Oh he definitely had the athleticism/length. But he didn't and still doesn't have the muscle that Edwards has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, gurpilo said: I said the same in other post, Wiggins 2.0 I'm not allowed to speak on Edwards anymore but ..... he's Mario Hezonja 2.0 Ok I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted November 18, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Rest assured: We're gettin' national pundit Draft Grades of C and below no matter what goes down tonight. ~lw3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 18, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said: Rest assured: We're gettin' national pundit Draft Grades of C and below no matter what goes down tonight. ~lw3 And you can rest assured that there will be at least 1 squawker that will hate the pick no matter who it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 18, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: And you can rest assured that there will be at least 1 squawker that will hate the pick no matter who it is. I hate it already. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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