Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 22, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Like I said, he had a really horrible game with all the Zeroes. bust Trae's 1st 13 games 3.8 rpg 8.2 apg .3 bpg .38 spg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted January 22, 2021 Author Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Too early to call any 19 year old average 12 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists per game a bust. All the areas people called out as weaknesses (lack of activity on defense, raw skills, shooting struggles, etc.) have been weaknesses. If he doesn't develop he'll be a huge bust. But Hunter was almost 3 years older as a rookie and after 13 games he was putting up 10 points (on 37% shooting), 4 rebounds, 1.5 assists 0.8 blocks, and 0.2 steals. He got better. Let's not judge too quickly. Lots of young players struggle out of the gate or even for a few years before finding their game in the NBA. In a normal year, Edwards would not have been considered for a #1 pick and wouldn't have the same pressure. (Like if he would have been in Trae's draft class he would likely have gone somewhere in the 6-11 range instead of #1 overall). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 22, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, AHF said: Too early to call any 19 year old average 12 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists per game a bust. All the areas people called out as weaknesses (lack of activity on defense, raw skills, shooting struggles, etc.) have been weaknesses. If he doesn't develop he'll be a huge bust. But Hunter was almost 3 years older as a rookie and after 13 games he was putting up 10 points (on 37% shooting), 4 rebounds, 1.5 assists 0.8 blocks, and 0.2 steals. He got better. Let's not judge too quickly. Lots of young players struggle out of the gate or even for a few years before finding their game in the NBA. In a normal year, Edwards would not have been considered for a #1 pick and wouldn't have the same pressure. (Like if he would have been in Trae's draft class he would likely have gone somewhere in the 6-11 range instead of #1 overall). Yeah but is my specialty. I'm calling it right now...Anthony Edwards will be a bust period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted January 22, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Yeah but is my specialty. I'm calling it right now...Anthony Edwards will be a bust period! Because he doesn't have the talent or won't do the work to develop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 22, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: Because he doesn't have the talent or won't do the work to develop it? He has never demonstrated work ethic or maturity. Guys that don't have that winner mentality don't become stars. This should be pretty obvious by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Peoriabird said: Yeah but is my specialty. I'm calling it right now...Anthony Edwards will be a bust period! What is your definition of bust? Will he be a star player? The odds are against anybody becoming a star really. At the very least he can be an empty calories scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) People call Andrew Wiggins a bust. But actually he got a monster 150 millions dollar deal. So he's not really a bust. There's different levels to "bust". A true bust is Hasheem Thabeet or Anthony Bennet. Edited January 22, 2021 by bleachkit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 22, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, bleachkit said: What is your definition of bust? Will he be a star player? The odds are against anybody becoming a star really. At the very least he can be an empty calories scorer. I'm not sure he can even be a role player. Role players are specialist and are good at something. Edwards isn't good at anything but has the mentality like he is a lead scorer or an alpha. That's a recipe for disaster! Sorta like my assessment of RJ Barrett but Barrett might be better than Edwards in the long run. Neither will be important cogs on contending teams 3 minutes ago, bleachkit said: People call Andrew Wiggins a bust. But actually he got a monster 150 millions dollar deal. So he's not really a bust. There's different levels to "bust". A true bust is Hasheem Thabeet or Anthony Bennet. I would consider Wiggins a bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 22, 2021 Author Moderators Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: People call Andrew Wiggins a bust. But actually he got a monster 150 millions dollar deal. So he's not really a bust. There's different levels to "bust". A true bust is Hasheem Thabeet or Anthony Bennet. Wiggins and Marvin are busts only relative to their draft position. They absolutely are not busts in an absolute or "true" sense of whether they belong in the NBA. Guys like Thabeet and Bennet don't belong in the NBA. A guy like Wiggins belongs in the NBA but got overdrafted and overpaid. Whether you use the term in a relative sense (i.e., that their career was well below the expectations for where they were picked) or an absolute sense (they don't belong in the league) is important to the discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 25, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Okoro -39 +/- in his last game. Wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted January 25, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 12:20 PM, AHF said: Too early to call any 19 year old average 12 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists per game a bust. All the areas people called out as weaknesses (lack of activity on defense, raw skills, shooting struggles, etc.) have been weaknesses. If he doesn't develop he'll be a huge bust. But Hunter was almost 3 years older as a rookie and after 13 games he was putting up 10 points (on 37% shooting), 4 rebounds, 1.5 assists 0.8 blocks, and 0.2 steals. He got better. Let's not judge too quickly. Lots of young players struggle out of the gate or even for a few years before finding their game in the NBA. In a normal year, Edwards would not have been considered for a #1 pick and wouldn't have the same pressure. (Like if he would have been in Trae's draft class he would likely have gone somewhere in the 6-11 range instead of #1 overall). It's silly to call Ant man a bust. We won't know what he is till year 3 or 4. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 With 25% of the season over, how are all the lottery picks around the league doing? Who wants to do a breakdown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: With 25% of the season over, how are all the lottery picks around the league doing? Who wants to do a breakdown? Haliburton was not a lottery pick (but should have been) and he's doing fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: Haliburton was not a lottery pick (but should have been) and he's doing fine. Top 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: Haliburton was not a lottery pick (but should have been) and he's doing fine. His stats are very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 31, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 @NBASupes how's your boy Obi Toppin diing so far. I remember he was out injured awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: @NBASupes how's your boy Obi Toppin diing so far. I remember he was out injured awhile. He's been okay. Not great, but okay. Randle been clearly better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 31, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 31, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Some recent games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted February 1, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 1:07 PM, Peoriabird said: Yeah but is my specialty. I'm calling it right now...Anthony Edwards will be a bust period! He's got tools, but a looooong way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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