NBASupes Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, kg01 said: Hield is a 6th man who's now been overpaid. Useful? Yes. Worth his contract? Eh. I like Heurter but I wouldn't hesitate to trade him for a true upgrade. What's a true upgrade for Kev that could actually be available in your opinion? I see him as one of those likely here for awhile guys due to his role value as a 6th man but probably not big enough trade value to net us anything that's a true upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: No trade or draft pick is making us a contender for a ring next season. (Unless it's Giannis). We aren't that far right now, we just aren't that close. We really just need to play and build a squad to our strengths and let the dominoes fall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, NBASupes said: We aren't that far right now, we just aren't that close. We really just need to play and build a squad to our strengths and let the dominoes fall yep. we're not going to build a contender for this season. got to build a playoff team first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, NBASupes said: What's a true upgrade for Kev that could actually be available in your opinion? I see him as one of those likely here for awhile guys due to his role value as a 6th man but probably not big enough trade value to net us anything that's a true upgrade. I wasn't really speaking in specifics. Just saying he's not untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, macdaddy said: yep. we're not going to build a contender for this season. got to build a playoff team first. The easiest way to do that is filling the rest of the roster next year with productive pieces who fit what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, NBASupes said: We aren't that far right now, we just aren't that close. We really just need to play and build a squad to our strengths and let the dominoes fall From the playoffs, we are close....from a real championship contender, we aren't close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: From the playoffs, we are close....from a real championship contender, we aren't close. We need real experience to see where we are when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, NBASupes said: The easiest way to do that is filling the rest of the roster next year with productive pieces who fit what we do. We need productive pieces, period.....not the Evans, Parsons, Crabbes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: We need productive pieces, period.....not the Evans, Parsons, Crabbes. Yep. 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 26, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: We need productive pieces, period.....not the Evans, Parsons, Crabbes. Isn't Huerter a productive piece? So why trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Peoriabird said: Isn't Huerter a productive piece? So why trade him? I'm not not an advocate for trading Huerter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 26, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 I think we should just add to the core and not trade them away while on their rookie contracts. That would at least give us a chance to see what direction they appear to be going in. The team didn't tank to then turn around and trade the very pieces the team tanked for in the 1st place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: I think we should just add to the core and not trade them away while on their rookie contracts. That would at least give us a chance to see what direction they appear to be going in. The team didn't tank to then turn around and trade the very pieces the team tanked for in the 1st place. My preference as well. Upgrade the bench...run it back...see where we are at the trade deadline next season...make a move IF needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: I think we should just add to the core and not trade them away while on their rookie contracts. That would at least give us a chance to see what direction they appear to be going in. The team didn't tank to then turn around and trade the very pieces the team tanked for in the 1st place. Depends on the deal for me. Needs to be a clear win or other young piece or I'm firmly in your camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 So if we can add a next-level piece via trading 1sts, but it costs Heurter, yall would say no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 26, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, AHF said: Depends on the deal for me. Needs to be a clear win or other young piece or I'm firmly in your camp. Schlenk specifically coveted all of his draft pick. He was going to trade up to draft Huerter. He was sweating bullets over Reddish. He did trade up for Hunter. So I think Schlenk kinda values these guys more than fans. Plus when you trade players, you lose locker room chemistry. These guys have already established that they like each other and hang out at events. Gotta be careful when you are considering changing the team's personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, kg01 said: So if we can add a next-level piece via trading 1sts, but it costs Heurter, yall would say no? Who do you consider next level piece and how many 1sts??? And to what level are they taking us? Put it this way...not for the 'names' bandied' about in the new country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 26, 2020 Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said: Who do you consider next level piece and how many 1sts??? And to what level are they taking us? Put it this way...not for the 'names' bandied' about in the new country. I dunno, just speaking theoretically. How about Oladipo? Not realistic, just for arguments sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, kg01 said: I dunno, just speaking theoretically. How about Oladipo? Not realistic, just for arguments sake. If he wasn't always injured and he has 1 year left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 26, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted May 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Schlenk specifically coveted all of his draft pick. He was going to trade up to draft Huerter. He was sweating bullets over Reddish. He did trade up for Hunter. So I think Schlenk kinda values these guys more than fans. Plus when you trade players, you lose locker room chemistry. These guys have already established that they like each other and hang out at events. Gotta be careful when you are considering changing the team's personnel. The Bulls traded Charles Oakley, GS traded Monta Ellis, the Cs traded Al Jefferson....all moves of young players drafted by a team and traded to get an important piece to a ring. I'm not eager to trade any of our young guys but if the right deal comes along, it could be a mistake to pass on it. Be careful but don't allow an overabundance of caution to deter you greatness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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