bleachkit Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: NBPA are not big fans of basketball. They seem to try to nix any deal or arrangement that involves the actual playing of basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted August 14, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted August 14, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 The longer we're off the more next season looks like another 'growing' season for our young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, macdaddy said: The longer we're off the more next season looks like another 'growing' season for our young team. Depends on the vets we land. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 4:08 PM, bleachkit said: NBPA are not big fans of basketball. They seem to try to nix any deal or arrangement that involves the actual playing of basketball. On this, it seems we agree. They've been on a 5-6 year campaign to get paid more but not play as much. Sadly the "commissioner" has been complicit the whole way, which is something I cannot understand since he's supposed to be the owners' rep. Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge them the money they make. However, they seem to be of the opinion that the money's owed whether they perform or not. With guaranteed contracts, it basically is. However (again), that completely sharts on the fans. Maybe fans should unionize and stop buying NBA stuff until they re-focus on making sure the product is up to the standards we deserve. I honestly think there should be some kind of ticket insurance that refunds fans if certain players sit for "rest". 17 minutes ago, macdaddy said: The longer we're off the more next season looks like another 'growing' season for our young team. Maybe. As @Spud2nique so astutely pointed out, it depends on how the roster gets constructed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators macdaddy Posted August 14, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 I mean i'm probably at the extreme end of cautious with covid but if they are doing daily testing then why all the limits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 14, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, macdaddy said: I mean i'm probably at the extreme end of cautious with covid but if they are doing daily testing then why all the limits? Has to be something the NBAPA is pushing for. Why this extreme, I can't even guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted August 14, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 I still say let them play locally televised scrimmages with regular clock and game rules. Tons of people will tune in to see that. Well at least more than will watch a 2016 Braves/Marlins game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, AHF said: Has to be something the NBAPA is pushing for. Why this extreme, I can't even guess. An acknowledgement of Covid alarmism from @AHF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: In market bubble? So each team will have their own instra-squad bubble? Just go to Orlando and have scrimmages. Stupid NBAPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 I will say one thing. I mean the chances were most likely that one of the ousted 8 gets the first pick. That better be the case now. I’m sorry but if the Wiz, Pelicans, Spurs, Suns, Kings or Grizz wins it it’s bs. Ill take it one step further, the top 3 in the draft better be from the ousted 8. Rig it like you always do NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 15, 2020 Moderators Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 19 hours ago, bleachkit said: An acknowledgement of Covid alarmism from @AHF? More trying work through the rationale given the public statements we've seen from our players who are publicly begging for more activity and the demonstrated effectiveness of the NBA bubble to date. When a substantial portion of your membership wants to do something and you've shown you know how to do it safely, I don't understand why you don't make that happen (especially if you do it on a voluntary basis where people can opt out to protect what I think is a minority of your membership who wouldn't want to participate). Layer on top of that the fact that the NBAPA already approved a level of activity that greatly exceeds what is being discussed here and I'm just struggling to understand the thought process behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, AHF said: More trying work through the rationale given the public statements we've seen from our players who are publicly begging for more activity and the demonstrated effectiveness of the NBA bubble to date. When a substantial portion of your membership wants to do something and you've shown you know how to do it safely, I don't understand why you don't make that happen (especially if you do it on a voluntary basis where people can opt out to protect what I think is a minority of your membership who wouldn't want to participate). Layer on top of that the fact that the NBAPA already approved a level of activity that greatly exceeds what is being discussed here and I'm just struggling to understand the thought process behind this. Probably has to do with money, leverage, legal one-upmanship, and other things we aren't privy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted August 18, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 From the JC Article: Quote "It's frustrating," Collins says. "We try to set things up. We think we're getting the go-ahead to try them, and then it's canceled. We ask if we can add more people so we can have, say, a 3-on-3 or 4-on-4 game, but just getting an answer takes forever. We get it lined up, but then we hear, 'No, you can't do it.'"It's stressful when everything keeps getting stalled like that. It's always, 'We'll see how things look next week,' or, 'We gotta get on another call with the players' association.'" "COVID has caused no shortage of problems," Collins explains. "One of them is the possibility we could be off for nine months. That's too long. We're not in the playoffs, summer league has been canceled and training camp is pushed back. We need some help, but we aren't really getting it. "We're just innocent bystanders waiting to see what happens." Collins says he'll continue to watch some of the NBA bubble playoffs but that he is done beating himself up and playing the "what if" game. He is looking forward, not back. "This year, we weren't ready," he says. "Next year, we will be." https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29682987/from-afar-watching-basketball-john-collins?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted August 19, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Finally!!! Something..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 13 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: From the JC Article: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29682987/from-afar-watching-basketball-john-collins?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true That was a great article. Im extremely proud of JC and Trae for their commitment to getting better next year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted September 5, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 It's fast approaching! Quote Because they were excluded from the Orlando bubble, the Hawks are one of eight NBA teams that will be allowed to hold one week of voluntary individual workouts in September followed by two weeks of team of team activity. It’s much less than they were hoping for, since their part of the season was cut short by 15 games, but better than nothing.The first week of workouts (Sept. 14-20) will look similar to what the Hawks have been permitted to do in the past, but the second two weeks (Sept. 21-Oct. 6) will be much different and will take place in a “bubble” or campus environment in Atlanta. For the first week of individual workouts, players will be able to show up at the practice facility and head back home afterward. They’ll receive a daily COVID-19 test, as will staff. Regarding location for those next two weeks, players and staff in the bubble must be shut off from the general public, so staying in a hotel with other guests present wasn’t an option. The team found a hotel that is not yet open in the city and is in the process to secure that as its venue is ongoing. In the bubble, food will be provided, and the team expects there will be an open ballroom area for people to use, as well. Schlenk estimated the Hawks will have about 40 people, including players, staff and coaches, in the bubble in an effort to keep things small. During that two-week period of team activity, everyone will receive daily tests and temperature checks. The team expects 10 players off the roster to participate, as well as five Skyhawks players (the list of Skyhawks players who will join the Hawks is still in the works). All three weeks of workouts are optional, and from the beginning, Schlenk has acknowledged that some players have more incentive to participate than others. While younger players might leap at the opportunity to play, older players or those who are set to enter free agency and have the incentive to avoid injury may want to sit out this one. The Hawks are not releasing a list of names detailing which players on the roster will participate. However, it’s not expected that Vince Carter (who has announced his retirement) or Jeff Teague (who will become a free agent) will participate. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 5, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 Quote The team expects 10 players off the roster to participate, as well as five Skyhawks players (the list of Skyhawks players who will join the Hawks is still in the works). My guess at the 10 Hawks players: Trae, Huerter, Reddish, Hunter, Collins, Capela, Bruno, Goodwin, Bembry, Skal. Charlie Brown from the Skyhawks is my lone guess. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted September 5, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: My guess at the 10 Hawks players: Trae, Huerter, Reddish, Hunter, Collins, Capela, Bruno, Goodwin, Bembry, Skal. Charlie Brown from the Skyhawks is my lone guess. Skal clearly needs to be there. He needs to prove we should still resign him 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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