Premium Member Peoriabird Posted September 29, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, marco102 said: Welcome back doc. Surprised you don't want Killian Hayes. He's a decent defender, good size and plays a position of need for the Hawks (combob guard) back up point guard. Hayes has become a great defender at such a young age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, marco102 said: Welcome back doc. Surprised you don't want Killian Hayes. He's a decent defender, good size and plays a position of need for the Hawks (combob guard) back up point guard. I don't know a lot about Killian, and I'm not going to comment on players that I haven't seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, KB21 said: I don't know a lot about Killian, and I'm not going to comment on players that I haven't seen. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, KB21 said: Part of me really wants the Hawks to take Okoro. He's the one guy who, if he had a jumper, would definitely not be available for the Hawks to draft. He's got a great body and great playing strength. I love his on the ball defense as well as his team defense. He is also a good shot creator. Above average passer. You take him with the idea that you can get his jump shot to at least average. Okoro is the #3 guy on my Hawks BB. I've been a major proponent of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, marco102 said: Fair enough. Yeah. I've read some good stuff on him, but I just haven't actually watched him. I've seen Okongwu, Okoro, Vassell, and Haliburton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, NBASupes said: Okoro is the #3 guy on my Hawks BB. I've been a major proponent of him. Who's number 2? I know #1Toppin, #3Okoro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, marco102 said: Look, if Killian is there at 6, the Hawks should run to the podium and take him. He has the best mixture of high floor/high ceiling of any player they have the potential to take. Good size, good defender, great passer, gives the Hawks all kinds of versatility, like I just don't see why the Hawks would/should pass him up. Below are his and Melo's interviews. Lamelo Ball: Hayes has a strong French accent for a guy born in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Hayes has a strong French accent for a guy born in the states. He left the US as a one year old and only came back during the summer. It's weird because some of things he says he has a more American accent and others its a strong French accent. Edited September 29, 2020 by marco102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted September 29, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, KB21 said: Yeah. I've read some good stuff on him, but I just haven't actually watched him. I've seen Okongwu, Okoro, Vassell, and Haliburton. My biggest problems with Okoro are his average steal and block rate as well as his below average rebounding and his poor shooting. He isn't really good at anything which makes it hard to take a guy like him in the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, marco102 said: Who's number 2? I know #1Toppin, #3Okoro. Okungwu or Deni I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, marco102 said: He left the US as a one year old and only came back during the summer. It's weird because some of things he says he has a more American accent and others its a strong french accent. If Spurs want him that's a good sign, they scout players about as good as anybody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: My biggest problems with Okoro are his average steal and block rate as well as his below average rebounding and his poor shooting. He isn't really good at anything which makes it hard to take a guy like him in the top 6. I disagree that there really isn't anything he is good at. He's a great on the ball defender even if it doesn't show up in steals and blocks. He is athletic enough and has enough strength that he moves players off their spot with relative ease. Offensively, he can get to his spot with ease, is a high level passer, and is a strong finisher. The biggest issue is his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, KB21 said: I disagree that there really isn't anything he is good at. He's a great on the ball defender even if it doesn't show up in steals and blocks. He is athletic enough and has enough strength that he moves players off their spot with relative ease. Offensively, he can get to his spot with ease, is a high level passer, and is a strong finisher. The biggest issue is his shot. That's my biggest issue with him. If he had a better free throw percentage, I'd feel better about him developing his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted September 29, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, KB21 said: Offensively, he can get to his spot with ease, is a high level passer, and is a strong finisher. The biggest issue is his shot. The guy averaged 13 points per game, 2 assist per game and 4.8 foul shot per game. How are these stats consitent with what you wrote above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, marco102 said: That's my biggest issue with him. If he had a better free throw percentage, I'd feel better about him developing his shot. No matter how athletic and strong he is, you cant draft a wing that cant shoot in today's NBA at #6. How he shoots in workouts will be important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted September 29, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, bleachkit said: No matter how athletic and strong he is, you cant draft a wing that cant shoot in today's NBA at #6. How he shoots in workouts will be important. plus he isn't great at anything else! Lebron couldn't shoot but the guy could get to the rim at will, pass and play defense. Unless Okoro is displaying Lebron like dominance in other areas, he shouldn't be taken in the top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: plus he isn't great at anything else! Lebron couldn't shoot but the guy could get to the rim at will and play defense. Unless Okoro is displaying Lebron like dominance in other areas, he shouldn't be taken in the top 10 I actually like him, he's a local kid and really is a great athlete, very strong, fast. Probably could have played football. Hard worker too. But poor shooting is a big, big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, marco102 said: Who's number 2? I know #1Toppin, #3Okoro. #1 is LaMelo. It was Ant but he dropped after I found out about a couple things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: My biggest problems with Okoro are his average steal and block rate as well as his below average rebounding and his poor shooting. He isn't really good at anything which makes it hard to take a guy like him in the top 6. His defense on tape is the best. We saw this from Dort. Some guys just aren't risk takers like Matisse T. His 3pt and FT percentages are similar to Jaylen Brown out of Cal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, NBASupes said: #1 is LaMelo. It was Ant but he dropped after I found out about a couple things. I'm high on Lamelo, but I don't see him being there when the Hawks pick. That's why I have Killian so high, I believe in his defense, shooting, passing, and ability to play alongside Trae. Not saying you aren't high on Killian, but you don't seem to be a fan. What keeps you from liking him? Just trying to see if you see somethng that I don't that I need to reevaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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