2020-2021 Season News and Notes

[bleachkit]

21 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

I'd have to go through the list but I'm not sure that the 2/3 number is correct, unless NFL teams are flouting local laws. 

[NBASupes]

4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Did you ask? 

We barely had much time to talk so no

[marco102]

4 hours ago, bleachkit said:

They have to finish before the Olympics. For international players representing their nation in the Olympics is a very big deal. What if Luka and other internationals had to leave the playoffs to compete in the Olympics? That would be a disaster. League can't risk a fiasco like that.

Yeah, they wouldn't leave the NBA playoffs for the Olympics especially if they are in the finals or something. 

[bleachkit]

1 minute ago, marco102 said:

Yeah, they wouldn't leave the NBA playoffs for the Olympics especially if they are in the finals or something. 

American players wouldn't. But for international players it is a much bigger deal. Those Baltic nations live for basketball. Also those nations would be furious with NBA. 

[marco102]

1 minute ago, bleachkit said:

American players wouldn't. But for international players it is a much bigger deal. Those Baltic nations live for basketball. Also those nations would be furious with NBA. 

I'm well aware, but he sure as hell wouldn't leave his American players in the middle of the finals.  Dallas may have a right to block him. 

It's a moot point though because it won't even come to that.

Edited October 24, 2020 by marco102

[bleachkit]

Just now, marco102 said:

I'm well aware, but he sure as hell wouldn't leave his American players in the middle of the finals.  Dallas has a right to block him to under the contract. 

It's a moot point though because it won't even come to that.

Yea that's what I'm saying. The NBA has to finish it's season before the Olympics in July to avoid a huge scheduling conflict, so they really cant prolong the start of the season too much.

[JayBirdHawk]

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Pending NBAPA Approval - According to Charania’s report, the league could earn about $500 million more in revenue if it starts play just before Christmas — and therefore hogs the TV spotlight on Christmas Day — and completes its playoffs before viewership declines in the summer. That money is likely to rule the conversation and push both sides toward adopting the plan.

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Why this decision now?

The unspoken piece is that having buildings full of fans is likely a pipe dream. The league is adjusting to the reality that the pandemic is nowhere close to under control in the U.S., and it may in fact be worse by the time the league tries to tip off. .........The initial thinking was to push the start of the season back to allow a potential vaccine to permit a 2020-21 season with full arenas. As that hope becomes more distant, the logic has shifted. At this point, 2020-21 is a bit of a sunk cost.................If that’s the case, then, a big part of the league’s logic is to have the 2020-21 season completed in time so it doesn’t mess up the 2021-22 season.

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What about a bubble?

The bubble is fine for fans and TV, but none of the participants are anxious to repeat it anytime soon. Certainly, it is a total non-starter for the regular season...........The NBA could always change course and move to a bubble format to ensure the integrity of the playoffs — and the Finals in particular — but doing so would be a last resort...

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With the draft slated for Nov. 18 and unlikely to move up, it would seem the most likely date for free agency to begin is on or about Nov. 23, the following Monday. If training camps start in early December — which they must if the season is to begin Dec. 22 — that gives us a 10-day blitz for free agency. Fun times!  The speed-dating aspect of the offseason will benefit the prepared, but teams have also had months to do all of their free-agent work. They’re as ready for something like this as they could ever possibly be. The only remaining variable is for them to know the exact cap number.

https://theathletic.com/2158420/2020/10/24/nba-schedule-the-nbas-december-restart-why-do-it-how-it-might-work-who-benefits-and-more/

[bleachkit]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

https://theathletic.com/2158420/2020/10/24/nba-schedule-the-nbas-december-restart-why-do-it-how-it-might-work-who-benefits-and-more/

Free agency is going to fun. Basically 2 weeks or so to get everyone signed. 

[marco102]

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The NBA salary cap is expected to decline "anywhere between $3 million and $12 million" for next season, sources told Connor Letourneau of the San Francisco Chronicle. 

The league reportedly missed its revenue projections by $1.5 billion due to a combination of the shutdown, cancellation of games, and finishing the season without fans. 

It was reported on Friday that the NBA could hold up to 40% of player salaries for the upcoming season in escrow to offset anticipated losses due to having a limited amount of fans or no fans altogether.

The withheld salary would be roughly $1.6 billion based on a $4 billion projected salary for next season.

The league is also targeting a December 22nd start date, which could generate an extra $500 million in revenue. 

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259999/Salary-Cap-Could-Decline-Between-$3-Million-And-$12-Million-Next-Season

That $12 million drop could hurt a ton of teams that are right against the luxury tax.

[JayBirdHawk]

47 minutes ago, marco102 said:

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259999/Salary-Cap-Could-Decline-Between-$3-Million-And-$12-Million-Next-Season

That $12 million drop could hurt a ton of teams that are right against the luxury tax.

I wonder if it's from the projected 2020-21 $115 mil, or this years $109 mil.

[AHF]

The lower, the better for us.  Will make some teams eager to unload rotation players to save $$.

[JayBirdHawk]

12 hours ago, marco102 said:

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259999/Salary-Cap-Could-Decline-Between-$3-Million-And-$12-Million-Next-Season

That $12 million drop could hurt a ton of teams that are right against the luxury tax.

 

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I wonder if it's from the projected 2020-21 $115 mil, or this years $109 mil.

From this article it looks like the Pre-COVID $115 Million.  So the Cap can range anywhere between $103-$112 million.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/report-salary-cap-decline-between-013632594.html

 

 

[lethalweapon3]

(as noted by @marco102)

~lw3

[macdaddy]

7 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

(as noted by @marco102)

~lw3

So they want to increase their payroll and then ask the players for pay cuts?

[AHF]

8 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

(as noted by @marco102)

~lw3

Flat Tax, Flat Tax, Flat Tax, Flat Tax.....

[JayBirdHawk]

Some night time reading from our ole buddy hawkfanatic:

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

Prior to the Board of Governors meeting on Friday, the NBA's finance committee met last Monday and came to a conclusion that the league needed to start the season in December to maximize their revenues for the 20-21 season.

"The owners' finance committee, there's a group of owners who make up the finance committee, had a meeting and in that meeting they looked at everything and decided 'You know what? We need to play sooner rather than later,'" said Brian Windhorst on his podcast. 

"By Friday, by the time the full Board of Governors meeting came together, it was pretty much decided it was going to be Christmas or even sooner.

"They have to work out a deal with the players over the next few days, but it's going to probably be a late December restart for the NBA, which is not something even Adam Silver was believing three weeks ago."

The league projects that starting the season in December will result in an additional $500 million in revenue than they otherwise would lose by starting later. 

BRIAN WINDHORST/ESPN

 

The NBA and NBPA are widely expected to agree to revised collective bargaining agreement this week, which is their deadline to start the season by mid-December.

"I don't really think the players have much of a leveraging point here," said Brian Windhorst on his podcast. "They're probably going to have to agree to this.

"In talking to people on the league side this past week, they didn't act like getting the players to agree was going to be that big of a stumbling block. I'm sure some people are going to be upset, but I'm not sure what they can do about it."

The start of the season will take place 72 days after Game 6 of The Finals featuring the Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat.

BRIAN WINDHORST/ESPN

[JayBirdHawk]

Maybe by Friday we get some movement on the salary cap numbers?

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Oct. 30 is setting up to be a key date. The NBA and NBPA agreed that day would be the deadline to complete ongoing discussions on modifications to the collective bargaining agreement for the 2020-21 season, a date that requires the league or union to provide 45 days' notice if either decides to terminate the CBA -- a scenario that sources continue to believe is a remote possibility.

 

[bleachkit]

4 hours ago, AHF said:

Flat Tax, Flat Tax, Flat Tax, Flat Tax.....

Where's Steve Forbes when you need him?

[macdaddy]

Wow.  Late december and i'll admit i was totally wrong.   I didn't think they would do anything before late january at the best.   It's going to be a wild season.