Free Agency 2020!!

[thecampster]

17 minutes ago, AHF said:

Guys let's end the meta discussion about how people are posting and get back to the subject of free agency.  If you think someone has crossed a line, please PM a mod or report a post.  Otherwise, don't focus on the poster and just address the posts.  Talk to each other like you were talking in person - assuming even if you disagree that you are both talking in good faith and having a degree of comradery among fellow Hawks die-hards.  Do that and you'll be good.

To be clear...is saying Danny Ainge sucks okay?  Asking before I say it again so I know if the warning is coming.

[lethalweapon3]

2 minutes ago, thecampster said:

To be clear...is saying Danny Ainge sucks okay?  Asking before I say it again so I know if the warning is coming.

There's room during the free agency period under the DAE.

(Danny Ainge Exception)

~lw3

[High5]

21 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Please. Continually insinuating someone is lying is the same as attacking the person. We're all adults here with a working brain. It is blatantly obvious you and a couple of other posters go after @NBASupes without actually using his name. We see what you are doing. 

It seems everyone who has questioned Supes' information has done it directly. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just like people are free to ignore his posts, you're free to ignore the people you disagree with. 

[thecampster]

9 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

There's room during the free agency period under the DAE.

(Danny Ainge Exception)

~lw3

If I let someone tell me I suck can I get a Traded Insult Exception to call out Ainge's hygiene as well?

[marco102]

31 minutes ago, RandomFan said:

 

Apparently, there's a media battle going on.  The ESPN (WoJ & Bobby Marks) people want Bogdon to stay in Sacrmento due to their screw up of reporting the trade too early.  

Any and everything posted by Bobby Marks has been pro kings keeping Bogdon or all the reason why they should. 

Mark Stein is not trying to cover up a screw up.

 

Edited November 24, 2020 by marco102

[marco102]

Back on topic. 

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/11/24/21591469/nba-free-agency-deals-trades-teams

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Atlanta Hawks

In two weeks, it’ll have been a year since a high-ranking Hawks official was heard during “an emotional locker room scene involving star point guard Trae Young” saying that “the team would be getting him some help on the roster soon.” You might quibble with the definition of “soon,” but it’s tough to argue that the Hawks haven’t made good on that promise over the past 12 months—and especially over the past week, which saw GM Travis Schlenk trade in a slow-and-steady rookie-scale rebuild for a cash-splashing, vet-chasing attempt to join the Eastern Conference playoff race.

Before last week, the richest free agent contract that Schlenk had handed out since taking over in 2017 was a two-year, $14 million deal for Dewayne Dedmon. He’s surpassed that three times in this free agency period alone: a three-year, $61.5 million eye-opener for Danilo Gallinari, a sharpshooting forward to cash in on Trae’s kickout passes; a two-year, $15 million pact for Rajon Rondo, fresh off his integral role in the playoff rotation of the defending champion Lakers; and a four-year, $72 million offer sheet to restricted free agent shooting guard Bogdan Bogdanovic, one of the most intriguing players in this class, who looked to be on his way to play Pop-a-Shot with Giannis and Jrue before Shit Got Weird. (Sacramento has until 1 p.m. ET on Tuesday to decide whether or not to match the offer sheet; the Hawks did their level best to structure it in such a way that the Kings might not want to, even if it means losing the 28-year-old Serbian playmaker for nothing.)

 

Add in a two-year, $10 million agreement with former no. 5 overall pick Kris Dunn and the three years and $51.3 million left on the contract of Clint Capela, the shot-swatting rim runner for whom the Hawks traded back in February, and Schlenk has spent more than $200 million this year in pursuit of meaningful improvement—and to prove to Young, already an All-Star starter in just his second season, that the Hawks can surround him with enough talent to actually start winning some games. That raises a pretty big question, though: What about the in-house talent that Atlanta spent the last three years acquiring and developing?

Trading for Capela, signing Gallinari, and drafting USC standout Onyeka Okongwu sixth overall in the 2020 draft has led many around the league to wonder how long John Collins—one of the NBA’s most productive young big men, averaging 20.3 points and 9.9 rebounds per game over the last two seasons—will remain in Atlanta’s plans. The 23-year-old reportedly wants a max extension; all the new arrivals in the frontcourt might indicate that Schlenk would prefer not to give him one.

Then again, maybe it doesn’t; maybe the Hawks’ brain trust thinks the 32-year-old Gallinari can still play small forward, and thinks a Capela-Collins-Gallo trio provides enough size and versatility to give opponents problems. What, then, becomes of De’Andre Hunter and Cam Reddish—a pair of rangy second-year swingmen drafted specifically to complement Young who started for much of their rookie seasons? (Veteran 3-and-D man Tony Snell, recently acquired from Detroit in exchange for Dedmon, could also factor into the small-forward discussion.) Ditto for Kevin Huerter, a good high-volume 3-point shooter and complementary facilitator who would not only be bumped to the bench by the arrival of Bogdanovic, but who would also likely see his minutes and playmaking opportunities minimized by Rondo and Dunn. Might the Hawks’ sudden pedal-to-the-metal push impede the development of these players who were expected to be key parts of the future?

Maybe not! Maybe, after a couple of years of letting the kids cook and winning fewer than 30 games, there’s something to be said for bringing in legitimate veterans to raise the level of competition. Maybe all those former first-rounders are still in Atlanta’s plans, and the idea is to give head coach Lloyd Pierce a cupboard overflowing with quality options, allowing him to mix and match his lineups and rotations throughout the season.

It seems more likely, though, that Atlanta’s not going to head into the season intending to go 12 deep and just sort of see what happens. You don’t spend $200-plus million to “just sort of see what happens.” You spend it to make something happen, for your franchise and your franchise star, and I’d bet on Schlenk and Co. looking to make even more happen before the start of the season.

 

The Ringer finally has some positive coverage of the Hawks. I'll never forget the hate though.

[Jody23]

 

[marco102]

3 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

 

They must know Giannis is signing the super max.

[terrell]

6 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

 

32.6 per....Wow..Good for him....

[Diesel]

2 hours ago, bleachkit said:

I never called him any names. But yes I do believe the mega trade to be BS. That's not a personal attack. If details of the mega trade can be be explained, then I will gladly listen. Why a trade can't be revealed after the fact seems highly suspect to me. Carl Sagan once said, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Supes was unusually bullish on the so called mega trade. Everyone gets defensive if it's questioned in the least.

15 minutes ago, terrell said:

32.6 per....Wow..Good for him....

Dayyyyyyuuum!

[Marvin24Williams]

The Queens are goona take this til the last minute then match it aren’t they

[txsting]

That's a nice article by the Ringer.  We have a lot of flexibility in our future plans, and ability to adapt in the face of injuries (or COVID dropouts).  Big trades are possible on the horizon, and we now have great competition at all positions.  JC will be pushed by Gallo.  Cam and Hunter continue to push each other.  Red Velvet and Bogi competing.  Bruno and Gwu making each other better, and maybe pushing Capela in the process.  It feels like we're in a good place, with some capability to improve further with future moves.

[Jody23]

 

[kg01]

Wait, Giannis and Bam have the same agent?

And they met with the Heat today?

And suddenly Bam gets signed, after MIA structuring all activity with eyes on signing Giannis, including the delaying of Bam's extension?

Does this indicate either Giannis is re-signig with MIL or that the Heat aren't on his list?

[marco102]

25 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Wait, Giannis and Bam have the same agent?

And they met with the Heat today?

And suddenly Bam gets signed, after MIA structuring all activity with eyes on signing Giannis, including the delaying of Bam's extension?

Does this indicate either Giannis is re-signig with MIL or that the Heat aren't on his list?

Do it for the "Culture".  lol...pretty much means Giannis is signing with MIL.

[Jody23]

 

[kg01]

8 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

 

Daaang, Ryan just got broke-off.

[bird_dirt]

6 hours ago, thecampster said:

To be clear...is saying Danny Ainge sucks okay?  Asking before I say it again so I know if the warning is coming.

Only if Danny isn't a Squawk member. You are free to talk as much crap as you want about anyone who isn't here. At least, that's how I understand the rules.

[AHF]

14 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Only if Danny isn't a Squawk member. You are free to talk as much crap as you want about anyone who isn't here. At least, that's how I understand the rules.

And if he joins we’ll boot his ass.

[Jody23]