parfait Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, REHawksFan said: Zero chance. He's too emotionally involved - which is fine if he wouldn't meddle in the FO decisions. But since he does, there's no chance the Falcons will ever win at the highest level again, imo. Couldn't the same be said for Tony Ressler? I think they are two pretty similar owners: emotionally, and financially, invested, and trying to find the right balance between involvement and meddling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, REHawksFan said: Zero chance. He's too emotionally involved - which is fine if he wouldn't meddle in the FO decisions. But since he does, there's no chance the Falcons will ever win at the highest level again, imo. Too emotionally involved in that he let Quinn and Dimitroff linger too long. But he is capable of hands off ownership. He did that with United, and they were able to bring Atlanta it's first championship since 95. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post lethalweapon3 Posted November 25, 2020 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 ~lw3 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted November 25, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, parfait said: Couldn't the same be said for Tony Ressler? I think they are two pretty similar owners: emotionally, and financially, invested, and trying to find the right balance between involvement and meddling. Falcons problem is #2. He's Joe Johnson. If he was like Trae Young aka Mahomes, he would have rings 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Diesel Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Falcons problem is #2. He's Joe Johnson. If he was like Trae Young aka Mahomes, he would have rings If Dan Quinn wasn't coaching when we went to the superbowl vs. the Pats.. he would have a ring! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 15 hours ago, NBASupes said: As someone who watched a lot of SAC because I have LP and watch a lot of everyone. Expecting Klay from Bogi is like expecting Reggie from Hield. Bogi is more like a rich man's Bazemore without the defensive talent. Both are streaky, inconsistent, and don't always make the best decisions but Bogi is a lot more of a PDS guy compared to Baze. He loves getting screens and playing the PnR. He's an excellent fit for what we do. I do feel we overpaid for him but you almost have to and he's going to a great fit so I am happy. Let's not compare him to a big wing like Hayward. Those are just so hard to find on the market. That's why Cleveland and Chicago reached for them in the draft because finding them is so difficult. Keep hearing that Bogi is selfish? Do we have a blackhole at the 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Diesel said: Keep hearing that Bogi is selfish? Do we have a blackhole at the 2? He's not selfish from what I've watched, he has that Tim Hardaway Jr in him where he misses the extra pass and takes the shot instead. Troublingly for a team like Sacramento with limited rebounding but for us who have some of the best rebounders in the NBA per position, we can be special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Falcons problem is #2. He's Joe Johnson. If he was like Trae Young aka Mahomes, he would have rings He's certainly part of the problem. He's good and will have a HOF career by the time he's done, but he's missing something that the upper echelon quarterbacks have. I also think Julio isn't reaching his full potential with Ryan. He outruns Ryan's arm and always has to "come back" to catch the ball when he already had his man beat. But Ryan's shortcomings aren't the reason he doesn't have a Super Bowl ring. I still blame Shanahan and his willing accomplice Quinn for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, GameTime said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, GameTime said: Does this mean that Giannis would be willing to give up the supermax and Join us next year? Trae, Bogi, and Giannis!!! What would it take to make that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Diesel said: If Dan Quinn wasn't coaching when we went to the superbowl vs. the Pats.. he would have a ring! So the other 18 games that he coached that get them to the Super Bowl dont count for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Diesel said: Does this mean that Giannis would be willing to give up the supermax and Join us next year? Trae, Bogi, and Giannis!!! What would it take to make that happen? Another reason to give Collins a max deal. We can trade him for Giannis if Giannis wants to come here. Collins would easily be the best player the Bucks could hope to get back on a deal for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, Diesel said: Does this mean that Giannis would be willing to give up the supermax and Join us next year? Trae, Bogi, and Giannis!!! What would it take to make that happen? One thing is for sure. Bogie is an asset in more ways than one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, RedDawg#8 said: So the other 18 games that he coached that get them to the Super Bowl dont count for anything? When you up by30... that's not the time to air the ball out. It may just have been we were too talented to lose in those 18. But my favorite football franchise is a laughingstock because we Blew the Biggest SB lead in History. That's coaching. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) @AHF, @mrhonline, @lethalweapon3 will you please move this Falcons discussion to the appropriate thread. If I wanted to think and talk about the Falcons, I'd go to talk about the Falcons. They suck leave it at that. Edited November 25, 2020 by marco102 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neanderballer Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 25, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, neanderballer said: I can see a max signed Collins, Cam, and First for Giannis on a multiyear SNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, neanderballer said: That's what I've been saying. These players are not going to all fit, and they don't need to. You can package a combination of a high salary player, rookie contract players, and draft picks to do a deal like the Lakers did for AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 hours ago, parfait said: Couldn't the same be said for Tony Ressler? I think they are two pretty similar owners: emotionally, and financially, invested, and trying to find the right balance between involvement and meddling. Not at all imo. Ressler is emotionally involved sure but I don't perceive him to be meddling in the front office decision making. He seems to have hired Travis and is letting him do his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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