Moderators AHF Posted March 23, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 I’d be excited as a fan if we signed Cousins but I’m not clamoring for it. Feels like he needs to go to a vet team with good infrastructure. Ideally a star to ride heard ala Jordan and Rodman. Just doesn’t seem like we are the right fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hey Sipes, just read an article that said The Kings offered Bagley for Collins, any truth to that? I still want to keep JC, doesn't make sense to mess up the Chemistry with he & Trae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurider05 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Man Bagley for Collins is something I was expecting to be put out there. You have to give that some thought. Some serious thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blunt91 said: Hey Sipes, just read an article that said The Kings offered Bagley for Collins, any truth to that? I still want to keep JC, doesn't make sense to mess up the Chemistry with he & Trae. That's a dramatic downgrade at that position as well. Bagley has athleticism, but that's all he has going for him. It would be a downgrade from a skill level standpoint and a dramatic downgrade defensively. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, KB21 said: That's a dramatic downgrade at that position as well. Bagley has athleticism, but that's all he has going for him. It would be a downgrade from a skill level standpoint and a dramatic downgrade defensively. Yup, Bagley is on shooting 56% from the free throw line this year. They would need to throw a 1st rounder in there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, Wurider05 said: Man Bagley for Collins is something I was expecting to be put out there. You have to give that some thought. Some serious thought. Why? Bagley sucks and can't stay healthy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, kg01 said: Why? Bagley sucks Disagree here. Lotta natural that can’t be taught. 53 minutes ago, kg01 said: can't stay healthy. More of this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Blunt91 said: Hey Sipes, just read an article that said The Kings offered Bagley for Collins, any truth to that? I still want to keep JC, doesn't make sense to mess up the Chemistry with he & Trae. They were shopping him for an all star level big. I hear that much. Nothing about him being shopped for Collins. He wouldn't fit what Atlanta does. This is a PnR based team. That said, with our recent adjustment to more back to the basket play, he might be a much better fit than he would have been under LP. That said, I haven't heard nothing on the Collins front other than it's extremely unlikely he will be moved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted March 23, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Wurider05 said: Man Bagley for Collins is something I was expecting to be put out there. You have to give that some thought. Some serious thought. I hope this is sarcasm? Why in the world we anyone seriously consider Bagley for Collins? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted March 23, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, KB21 said: That's a dramatic downgrade at that position as well. Bagley has athleticism, but that's all he has going for him. It would be a downgrade from a skill level standpoint and a dramatic downgrade defensively. When you factor in health, I agree that it is a dramatic downgrade. If both were healthy, it would be a good conversation but I'd still rather have the guy with the career 37% 3pt% and 77% ft% over the guy with the 31.8% 3pt% and 66% ft%. On a per minute basis, the numbers aren't too far apart but JC has the better points, rebounds, blocks, and assists per minute (and the same steal number). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, KB21 said: That's a dramatic downgrade at that position as well. Bagley has athleticism, but that's all he has going for him. It would be a downgrade from a skill level standpoint and a dramatic downgrade defensively. He simply hasn't developed in three years. We saw this happen to Julius Randle as well but he needed a couple of moves to find a home. That said, Bagley's injuries is his biggest concern. Add to the fact that he's a man without a role offensively and defensively, he remains lost as ever. He just needs to get more playing reps and the right reps. That said, Atlanta wouldn't trade Collins for Bagley to me at least. Not that I know anything about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted March 23, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 I just feel like Bagley is who he is. It's not that he's underperformed as much as he was overrated as a prospect to begin with. But that's just $.02 from the peanut gallery. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, macdaddy said: I just feel like Bagley is who he is. It's not that he's underperformed as much as he was overrated as a prospect to begin with. But that's just $.02 from the peanut gallery. Injuries and his love for making music is a side distraction. He needs more discipline and focus on training to keep his body healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted March 23, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Outside of a potential Tony Snell trade. I haven't really heard Atlanta is closing in on nothing. Atlanta wants a key rotation player in exchange for Snell. New Orleans/Bledsoe has come up. From the sounds of it, Rondo is another player that could be moved. He just has limited interest as well as Bruno. The thing about Rondo, is he has tremendous rep in the locker room. Atlanta likes him and with Dunn's return, it seems like they might just do nothing at all this deadline. I would say, Bruno could still be moved but Atlanta isn't willing to seriously trade a real 2nd rounder. He might end up being released. A lot of teams are calling the Hawks, we got a lot of players teams want but no one really values our players the way we do or at least the offers don't say it. Because we are a buyer, are players are pricey. Teams want discounted players. That's just not where we stand. Prepare to be bored. I will say, the Lonzo Ball market is heating up. We aren't in it of course. The entire Cam Reddish shit is some BS from NO mouth to push what type of offers they want. They want a young player with legit potential or a lottery ranged pick for Ball. The lottery pick range might happen. Chicago is strongly considering offering one. Teams have called Atlanta and been blowing our phones up nonetheless is what he said. We are one of the most called teams with Houston, Toronto, Orlando, and New Orleans. Toronto is seriously going to make some moves. I am hearing FVV and Siakam are also on the market. The Kings is the name that's buying that's crazy. They aren't willing to trade a 1st but they are willing to trade major assets outside of Haliburton and Fox to build a team. Watch for the Kings for Siakam and Powell. It's hard as hell to get a lottery area 1st in this draft. Everyone wants one but no one is trading them. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: it seems like they might just do nothing at all this deadline. That would be great! 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Prepare to be bored. I’m fine with boredom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted March 23, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Can't imagine releasing a big when you have 5 point guards. Just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, NBASupes said: We are one of the most called teams with Houston, I like this kid’s attitude and game a lot. @sturtwanted him and Thingram as FA’s I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Disagree here. Lotta natural that can’t be taught. More of this though. "Sucks" is strong, I'll admit. I think it's better said that he just is what he is. An athletic big, not much more. He'll fall into 20/10 type numbers but have no impact and plays no d. All the criticisms of John Collins aka Con Jollins, actually apply better to Bagley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Outside of a potential Tony Snell trade. I haven't really heard Atlanta is closing in on nothing .... Wait, so you're tellin' me we're not trading Con Jollins to Loston for Teague and a future 3rd rounder? Sully bet his house they were gonna get 'im. Guess he got Con'd instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, kg01 said: he just is what he is That’s a category that belongs to Wiggins and Kanter, we would have to check with them if there’s room for another. I think the team that trades for Bagley though might be getting a low risk high reward depending on the deal. If he gets healthy, look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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