De'Andre Hunter: The Steady Eddy

[txsting]

Dre seems to have the upside of a young Kawhi for sure.  I'm very pleased with his development.  I knew if we were going to take another step towards being competitive that we would need to rely on internally developing players rather than solely the free agent market.  Trae/Dre/Collins/Capela is quite a nice start.  I don't consider any other player in the "core" at this point.  Meaning I'd be willing to deal anyone else in order to get better.  At this point, when you've got 4 of a starting 5, it's no longer about amassing talent.  The whole game now is about finding other pieces in terms of their FIT.  We need to find the right fit at SG, and the right fits for the bench (some of which we probably already have).

Now, to take the next step (the last step??) in the starting 5 we just need to go out and get the absolute best defensive SG who can contribute in offensive sets but doesn't require the ball.  Kevin Huerter continues to develop but neither he or Cam is likely going to be the "championship" answer at SG.  I'm not totally ready to give up on Cam because he does have the tools, but he needs to be more complementary and not force his offense.  

[Gray Mule]

17 minutes ago, txsting said:

Dre seems to have the upside of a young Kawhi for sure.  I'm very pleased with his development.  I knew if we were going to take another step towards being competitive that we would need to rely on internally developing players rather than solely the free agent market.  Trae/Dre/Collins/Capela is quite a nice start.  I don't consider any other player in the "core" at this point.  Meaning I'd be willing to deal anyone else in order to get better.  At this point, when you've got 4 of a starting 5, it's no longer about amassing talent.  The whole game now is about finding other pieces in terms of their FIT.  We need to find the right fit at SG, and the right fits for the bench (some of which we probably already have).

Now, to take the next step (the last step??) in the starting 5 we just need to go out and get the absolute best defensive SG who can contribute in offensive sets but doesn't require the ball.  Kevin Huerter continues to develop but neither he or Cam is likely going to be the "championship" answer at SG.  I'm not totally ready to give up on Cam because he does have the tools, but he needs to be more complementary and not force his offense.  

Just wait for the second half of the season arrives and with it a healed up and ready to go Kris Dunn.  That's our defensive guard.  From what we've been told, he fits your description to a tee....

Ain't life great!  Hawks may be kinda good if we ever get everyone 100% healthy..

[AHF]

I liked Hunter's mix of floor and ceiling but I'll raise my hand and say I though the Kawhi comparisons were too aggressive.  The fact that we can have the conversation with a straight face is just fantastic.

[bleachkit]

37 minutes ago, AHF said:

I liked Hunter's mix of floor and ceiling but I'll raise my hand and say I though the Kawhi comparisons were too aggressive.  The fact that we can have the conversation with a straight face is just fantastic.

Squawk is never too bullish on our young prospects. That would never happen.

[EazyRoc]

1 hour ago, txsting said:

Dre seems to have the upside of a young Kawhi for sure.  I'm very pleased with his development.  I knew if we were going to take another step towards being competitive that we would need to rely on internally developing players rather than solely the free agent market.  Trae/Dre/Collins/Capela is quite a nice start.  I don't consider any other player in the "core" at this point.  Meaning I'd be willing to deal anyone else in order to get better.  At this point, when you've got 4 of a starting 5, it's no longer about amassing talent.  The whole game now is about finding other pieces in terms of their FIT.  We need to find the right fit at SG, and the right fits for the bench (some of which we probably already have).

Now, to take the next step (the last step??) in the starting 5 we just need to go out and get the absolute best defensive SG who can contribute in offensive sets but doesn't require the ball.  Kevin Huerter continues to develop but neither he or Cam is likely going to be the "championship" answer at SG.  I'm not totally ready to give up on Cam because he does have the tools, but he needs to be more complementary and not force his offense.  

I truly think Cam can be the answer. He just has to settle into a 3 and D role FIRST. Get comfortable there and expand from that. I feel like there’s a lot of pressure on him to be more to “live up to his potential” so he’s just all over the place. If he can focus on playing the world class D he’s shown and becoming a more reliable spot up shooter, anything he does beyond that is just gravy on the biscuit.

[terrell]

20 hours ago, JTB said:

We put our own against each other too much and too many are looking to be right about their opinion and crucify others for whatever benefit.... with that said I’m glad Hunter is heading into a all star direction. I am one of those who was worried about how Hunter put the ball on the floor last season. That has obviously changed as he’s shown huge improvement with his on ball scoring in a matter of just a year. 
 

while cam also has his dribbling issues last season and this season...it seemed more mental than natural ability. Last season Hunter dribbling felt like a natural ability he just didn’t have similar to Giannis when he first entered the league.

 

hunters dribbling ability takes his ceiling through the roof just like it did for Giannis. Once Giannis got comfortable putting the ball on the floor the mvps came. 
 

im not one to put our players against one another and I still believe Cam has all star potential that just hasn’t been unleashed yet. The great thing is that now atleast for me I feel both Hunter and cam will be long time all stars. We just need cam to get his confidence up like Hunters. 
 

Last quick mention last season cam was the better defender but Hunter is playing lights out on both sides and looks much quicker defensively this season in his lateral movements. His progress in just one off season is truly off the charts! In comparison Leonard wasn’t putting up these numbers Hunter is putting up until year 4!

I like Cam too..I just knew he'd take more time to develop...Im glad they're both Hawks...Its gonna be fun watching them grow..

Edited January 26, 2021 by terrell

[Atlantaholic]

His confidence grows by the game. I think that Bucks game where Trae and Cap sat was a bit of a blessing in desguise because I feel that putting up that crazy efficient 30 points on a premier defensive team as a #1 option really gave Hunter confidence he may not have gotten this fast otherwise. His body language was different tonight, like he was ready to step up and be the man at a moments notice. 

[REHawksFan]

18 hours ago, AHF said:

I liked Hunter's mix of floor and ceiling but I'll raise my hand and say I though the Kawhi comparisons were too aggressive.  The fact that we can have the conversation with a straight face is just fantastic.

I've been asking myself the questions:  "Can Dre really be a 2nd option on a championship caliber team?  Can that be his ceiling??"  I don't proclaim to have the answer, but it intrigued me enough to look up come comparisons of SFs in their 2nd years. These are some of the top SFs in the game today and all of similar size to Dre. 

ALL 2nd Years:

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Ingram	20	33.5	12.9	47.0%	1.8	39.0%	48.3%	49.7%	4.8	68.1%	5.3	3.9	0.8	0.7	16.1	1.248
Tatum	20	31.1	13.1	45.0%	3.9	37.3%	48.3%	50.6%	2.9	85.5%	6.0	2.1	1.1	0.7	15.7	1.198
Middleton	22	30.0	10.4	44.0%	3.5	41.4%	45.4%	51.1%	1.7	86.1%	3.8	2.1	1.0	0.2	12.1	1.163
George	21	29.7	9.7	44.0%	3.5	38.5%	47.2%	51.0%	2.8	80.2%	5.6	2.4	1.6	0.6	12.1	1.247
Leonard	21	31.2	9.1	49.4%	3.0	37.4%	55.4%	55.6%	2.2	82.5%	6.0	1.6	1.7	0.6	11.9	1.308

 

Optimus is leading the way of these players in PPG, FG%, eFG%, and PPS.  That's pretty impressive SO FAR.  Just gotta stay consistent but it's a HUGELY encouraging start to the season. Now, I will grant that some will say, "yeah, but he's so much older than the other players, he has less time to grow."  While I think that's a reasonable argument, I'm not sure how much age impacts this analysis. (Not questioning, I legit don't know).  So I also looked at these same players in their Age 23 year.

ALL 23 YEARS (except Tatum who's only 22 this year):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
George	23	36.2	17.0	42.4%	6.3	36.4%	45.8%	49.0%	5.8	86.4%	6.8	3.5	1.9	0.3	21.7	1.276
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Leonard	23	31.8	12.8	47.9%	3.0	34.9%	51.9%	52.0%	3.9	80.2%	7.2	2.5	2.3	0.8	16.5	1.289
Middleton	23	30.1	11.0	46.7%	3.4	40.7%	49.4%	53.0%	2.0	85.9%	4.4	2.3	1.5	0.1	13.4	1.218

 

So this chart changes things a little in that we see guys like Tatum (4th year), Ingram (5th year), and George (4th year) take steps forward in PPG but that also coincides with larger roles within their team's offense.  Tatum increases by 8.2 FGA, Ingram by 4.8 FGA, and George by 7.3 FGA. Yet none of them are in the same stratosphere with Hunter in terms of Efficiency in their 2nd year or their Age 23 year.  

All of this seems to bode well for the Hawks and Hunter but with one seemingly large caveat.....we are but 17 games into his 2nd season so sample size likely plays a HUGE part of the comparison.  So maybe all we can REALLY say right now is that Hunter is clearly off to a great start this year and - if he keeps it up - will be in keeping with some of the elite players in the NBA at his position in their comparable years.  

FYI, if you are interested in how Hunter compares to his contemporaries THIS YEAR, here's that chart:

2020-21 Season (as of 1.26.21):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Leonard	29	34.5	18.9	50.5%	4.9	41.9%	53.6%	56.0%	5.3	90.0%	5.4	5.7	2.0	0.7	25.9	1.370
George	30	34.3	15.8	50.4%	7.8	48.4%	52.3%	62.3%	4.7	90.7%	6.2	5.4	1.2	0.5	23.9	1.513
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
Middleton	29	32.9	15.7	52.2%	5.9	42.6%	58.0%	60.2%	3.1	92.0%	6.3	5.8	1.0	0.2	21.8	1.389
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487

 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

I've been asking myself the questions:  "Can Dre really be a 2nd option on a championship caliber team?  Can that be his ceiling??"  I don't proclaim to have the answer, but it intrigued me enough to look up come comparisons of SFs in their 2nd years. These are some of the top SFs in the game today and all of similar size to Dre. 

ALL 2nd Years:

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Ingram	20	33.5	12.9	47.0%	1.8	39.0%	48.3%	49.7%	4.8	68.1%	5.3	3.9	0.8	0.7	16.1	1.248
Tatum	20	31.1	13.1	45.0%	3.9	37.3%	48.3%	50.6%	2.9	85.5%	6.0	2.1	1.1	0.7	15.7	1.198
Middleton	22	30.0	10.4	44.0%	3.5	41.4%	45.4%	51.1%	1.7	86.1%	3.8	2.1	1.0	0.2	12.1	1.163
George	21	29.7	9.7	44.0%	3.5	38.5%	47.2%	51.0%	2.8	80.2%	5.6	2.4	1.6	0.6	12.1	1.247
Leonard	21	31.2	9.1	49.4%	3.0	37.4%	55.4%	55.6%	2.2	82.5%	6.0	1.6	1.7	0.6	11.9	1.308

 

Optimus is leading the way of these players in PPG, FG%, eFG%, and PPS.  That's pretty impressive SO FAR.  Just gotta stay consistent but it's a HUGELY encouraging start to the season. Now, I will grant that some will say, "yeah, but he's so much older than the other players, he has less time to grow."  While I think that's a reasonable argument, I'm not sure how much age impacts this analysis. (Not questioning, I legit don't know).  So I also looked at these same players in their Age 23 year.

ALL 23 YEARS (except Tatum who's only 22 this year):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
George	23	36.2	17.0	42.4%	6.3	36.4%	45.8%	49.0%	5.8	86.4%	6.8	3.5	1.9	0.3	21.7	1.276
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Leonard	23	31.8	12.8	47.9%	3.0	34.9%	51.9%	52.0%	3.9	80.2%	7.2	2.5	2.3	0.8	16.5	1.289
Middleton	23	30.1	11.0	46.7%	3.4	40.7%	49.4%	53.0%	2.0	85.9%	4.4	2.3	1.5	0.1	13.4	1.218

 

So this chart changes things a little in that we see guys like Tatum (4th year), Ingram (5th year), and George (4th year) take steps forward in PPG but that also coincides with larger roles within their team's offense.  Tatum increases by 8.2 FGA, Ingram by 4.8 FGA, and George by 7.3 FGA. Yet none of them are in the same stratosphere with Hunter in terms of Efficiency in their 2nd year or their Age 23 year.  

All of this seems to bode well for the Hawks and Hunter but with one seemingly large caveat.....we are but 17 games into his 2nd season so sample size likely plays a HUGE part of the comparison.  So maybe all we can REALLY say right now is that Hunter is clearly off to a great start this year and - if he keeps it up - will be in keeping with some of the elite players in the NBA at his position in their comparable years.  

FYI, if you are interested in how Hunter compares to his contemporaries THIS YEAR, here's that chart:

2020-21 Season (as of 1.26.21):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Leonard	29	34.5	18.9	50.5%	4.9	41.9%	53.6%	56.0%	5.3	90.0%	5.4	5.7	2.0	0.7	25.9	1.370
George	30	34.3	15.8	50.4%	7.8	48.4%	52.3%	62.3%	4.7	90.7%	6.2	5.4	1.2	0.5	23.9	1.513
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
Middleton	29	32.9	15.7	52.2%	5.9	42.6%	58.0%	60.2%	3.1	92.0%	6.3	5.8	1.0	0.2	21.8	1.389
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487

 

Good work!.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[AHF]

2 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

I've been asking myself the questions:  "Can Dre really be a 2nd option on a championship caliber team?  Can that be his ceiling??"  I don't proclaim to have the answer, but it intrigued me enough to look up come comparisons of SFs in their 2nd years. These are some of the top SFs in the game today and all of similar size to Dre. 

ALL 2nd Years:

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Ingram	20	33.5	12.9	47.0%	1.8	39.0%	48.3%	49.7%	4.8	68.1%	5.3	3.9	0.8	0.7	16.1	1.248
Tatum	20	31.1	13.1	45.0%	3.9	37.3%	48.3%	50.6%	2.9	85.5%	6.0	2.1	1.1	0.7	15.7	1.198
Middleton	22	30.0	10.4	44.0%	3.5	41.4%	45.4%	51.1%	1.7	86.1%	3.8	2.1	1.0	0.2	12.1	1.163
George	21	29.7	9.7	44.0%	3.5	38.5%	47.2%	51.0%	2.8	80.2%	5.6	2.4	1.6	0.6	12.1	1.247
Leonard	21	31.2	9.1	49.4%	3.0	37.4%	55.4%	55.6%	2.2	82.5%	6.0	1.6	1.7	0.6	11.9	1.308

 

Optimus is leading the way of these players in PPG, FG%, eFG%, and PPS.  That's pretty impressive SO FAR.  Just gotta stay consistent but it's a HUGELY encouraging start to the season. Now, I will grant that some will say, "yeah, but he's so much older than the other players, he has less time to grow."  While I think that's a reasonable argument, I'm not sure how much age impacts this analysis. (Not questioning, I legit don't know).  So I also looked at these same players in their Age 23 year.

ALL 23 YEARS (except Tatum who's only 22 this year):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
George	23	36.2	17.0	42.4%	6.3	36.4%	45.8%	49.0%	5.8	86.4%	6.8	3.5	1.9	0.3	21.7	1.276
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487
Leonard	23	31.8	12.8	47.9%	3.0	34.9%	51.9%	52.0%	3.9	80.2%	7.2	2.5	2.3	0.8	16.5	1.289
Middleton	23	30.1	11.0	46.7%	3.4	40.7%	49.4%	53.0%	2.0	85.9%	4.4	2.3	1.5	0.1	13.4	1.218

 

So this chart changes things a little in that we see guys like Tatum (4th year), Ingram (5th year), and George (4th year) take steps forward in PPG but that also coincides with larger roles within their team's offense.  Tatum increases by 8.2 FGA, Ingram by 4.8 FGA, and George by 7.3 FGA. Yet none of them are in the same stratosphere with Hunter in terms of Efficiency in their 2nd year or their Age 23 year.  

All of this seems to bode well for the Hawks and Hunter but with one seemingly large caveat.....we are but 17 games into his 2nd season so sample size likely plays a HUGE part of the comparison.  So maybe all we can REALLY say right now is that Hunter is clearly off to a great start this year and - if he keeps it up - will be in keeping with some of the elite players in the NBA at his position in their comparable years.  

FYI, if you are interested in how Hunter compares to his contemporaries THIS YEAR, here's that chart:

2020-21 Season (as of 1.26.21):

	Age	MP	FGA	FG%	3PA	3P%	2P%	eFG%	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	PTS	PPS
Tatum	22	34.4	21.3	47.4%	7.8	44.2%	49.3%	55.6%	3.5	86.8%	6.8	3.9	0.9	0.8	26.6	1.249
Leonard	29	34.5	18.9	50.5%	4.9	41.9%	53.6%	56.0%	5.3	90.0%	5.4	5.7	2.0	0.7	25.9	1.370
George	30	34.3	15.8	50.4%	7.8	48.4%	52.3%	62.3%	4.7	90.7%	6.2	5.4	1.2	0.5	23.9	1.513
Ingram	23	35.0	17.7	46.8%	5.5	37.3%	51.1%	52.6%	5.6	84.5%	5.6	4.6	0.7	0.9	23.3	1.316
Middleton	29	32.9	15.7	52.2%	5.9	42.6%	58.0%	60.2%	3.1	92.0%	6.3	5.8	1.0	0.2	21.8	1.389
Hunter	23	32.6	11.9	51.3%	4.8	38.2%	60.0%	58.9%	4.1	87.9%	5.6	2.2	0.9	0.4	17.7	1.487

 

I'll be honest that this looks like great info but I can't read it on my computer as the numbers squish together.

[REHawksFan]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

I'll be honest that this looks like great info but I can't read it on my computer as the numbers squish together.

Hmmm.....looks fine on mine.  I'll repost as pics.  

[AHF]

3 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Hmmm.....looks fine on mine.  I'll repost as pics.  

I can figure it out with some work but this is what it looks like for me:

[REHawksFan]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

I can figure it out with some work but this is what it looks like for me:

2nd Year:

Age 23:

2020-21:

These are the chart images I created. Not going to retype all the text and I'm not sure how to copy the text from my first post without it being a quote box. LOL.  

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, AHF said:

I can figure it out with some work but this is what it looks like for me:

Glad ya'll didn't compare him to Jaylen Brown since .... ya know, Jaylen >>>>> Jason Tatum per I.S.E..

[terrell]

@DarwinC91656481

 

Griffin passed on a lot of good prospects to draft a rim running center at 8.

 

@NOsei07

 

Replying to

@DarwinC91656481

DeAndre Hunter was right there at 4! Traded back for what...

 

 

Suck it up Pels fans...lol

[kg01]

11 minutes ago, terrell said:

@DarwinC91656481

 

Griffin passed on a lot of good prospects to draft a rim running center at 8.

 

@NOsei07

 

Replying to

@DarwinC91656481

DeAndre Hunter was right there at 4! Traded back for what...

 

Suck it up Pels fans...lol

I won't take credit for seeing Hunter's emergence.  But I told anyone who'd listen that the Hayes guy was a walking bust.  Typical athletic tall guy that gets overdrafted every year because he manages to hit a jumper once in an open gym and people fall in love with his "potential" to be a stretch-5.

Well, the only thing about him that's a stretch is imagining he's a contributing basketball player.

Oh, yeah, I get it.  I get it.  Bigs just take longer to develop.  That's all it is.

 

We'll take our lopsided trade win and ride home with it while the PeliCan't's try to figure how to surround Zion with more non-shooters.  What terrible GM thinks that works?  Oh yeah, one who's apparently shopping the only shooter on their roster.

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I won't take credit for seeing Hunter's emergence.  But I told anyone who'd listen that the Hayes guy was a walking bust.  Typical athletic tall guy that gets overdrafted every year because he manages to hit a jumper once in an open gym and people fall in love with his "potential" to be a stretch-5.

Well, the only thing about him that's a stretch is imagining he's a contributing basketball player.

Oh, yeah, I get it.  I get it.  Bigs just take longer to develop.  That's all it is.

 

We'll take our lopsided trade win and ride home with it while the PeliCan't's try to figure how to surround Zion with more non-shooters.  What terrible GM thinks that works?   Oh yeah, one who's apparently shopping the only shooter on their roster.

 

I would trade Snell and a 2nd for JJ Reddick.

[marco102]

7 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I won't take credit for seeing Hunter's emergence.  But I told anyone who'd listen that the Hayes guy was a walking bust.  Typical athletic tall guy that gets overdrafted every year because he manages to hit a jumper once in an open gym and people fall in love with his "potential" to be a stretch-5.

Well, the only thing about him that's a stretch is imagining he's a contributing basketball player.

Oh, yeah, I get it.  I get it.  Bigs just take longer to develop.  That's all it is.

 

We'll take our lopsided trade win and ride home with it while the PeliCan't's try to figure how to surround Zion with more non-shooters.  What terrible GM thinks that works?  Oh yeah, one who's apparently shopping the only shooter on their roster.

 

I'm not going to let you claim this win.  You normally call about 80% of the prospects busts, so you had an 80% chance of hitting on this one. 

[terrell]

15 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I won't take credit for seeing Hunter's emergence.  But I told anyone who'd listen that the Hayes guy was a walking bust.  Typical athletic tall guy that gets overdrafted every year because he manages to hit a jumper once in an open gym and people fall in love with his "potential" to be a stretch-5.

Well, the only thing about him that's a stretch is imagining he's a contributing basketball player.

Oh, yeah, I get it.  I get it.  Bigs just take longer to develop.  That's all it is.

 

We'll take our lopsided trade win and ride home with it while the PeliCan't's try to figure how to surround Zion with more non-shooters.  What terrible GM thinks that works?  Oh yeah, one who's apparently shopping the only shooter on their roster.

The "experts" were praising Griffen not long ago..lol