sillent Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 If John Collins gets traded I do still believe he will be an Allstar just of course not for the Hawks. My memory is foggy right now but I believe 2way players can play more than the normal games and I also believe we can guarantee it especially if the roster position is available. Saying that to say if Collins is gone Nathan Knight is going to beast. Okongwu will be ready sooner than later too and they both are natural defenders. https://soaringdownsouth.com/2021/01/14/atlanta-hawks-trade-concept-cleveland-cavaliers/ This was one rumor I read (sorry by the way if I'm on a similar topic it's been a lil minute). I actually would do it in order to keep the rest of our young core at good prices as well as a poor man's John who might be better defensively and is still athletic so Trae could help atleast turn him into a yr 2 John lol... McGee has won multiple championships on a few teams and has just played with Rondo. He's a 7fter too did I mention that and actually surprisingly skilled but at the minimum can rebound and defend the paint. Knowing Schlenk like we know him he will definitely get a 1st rounder out of the deal. John will get his money and a chance to really shine on his own aka Shawn Kemp. Again Nathan Knight and Onyeka are gems and both play better defense as well as do similar things on offense. This way Gallo and Trae can really show out. Win Win for everyone but what do y'all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkzlova123 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 U definitely live in the West coast or out of state 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillent Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Tonight's game looked like a fair well game so my question is... Who knows something we don't? Is Collins getting traded and for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post High5 Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 lol I think you might be the only person who came to that conclusion. I'm curious which part made you think that? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted January 21, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I saw it more as a welcome back game. Both him and Trae had been MIA for weeks. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted January 21, 2021 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm so confused 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted January 21, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I'm so confused You called it last night! I just didn't know it would be @sillent 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 hours ago, sillent said: Tonight's game looked like a fair well game so my question is... Who knows something we don't? Is Collins getting traded and for who? Yes he's gone, for a back up guard and a 2nd round pick. TS dropped the ball big time on this one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 TJ McConnell.... have you been living under a rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 No. Just.....no. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Garbage trade. Deal Collins for an older, worse player and a limited older backup? Nope. We're good thanks. @sillent - Since you have two threads on trading Collins, I'm going to combine the two. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, AHF said: Garbage trade. Deal Collins for an older, worse player and a limited older backup? Nope. We're good thanks. @sillent - Since you have two threads on trading Collins, I'm going to combine the two. Teams rarely trade young stars. I highly doubt we trade JC. If anything we pay him this summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted January 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Teams rarely trade young stars. I highly doubt we trade JC. If anything we pay him this summer. How much more obvious is it that he's the engine of this team. And the predicted lack of fit with CC is looking more wrong every game. The other part is that Trae and Collins need each other. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, macdaddy said: How much more obvious is it that he's the engine of this team. And the predicted lack of fit with CC is looking more wrong every game. The other part is that Trae and Collins need each other. I guess a team could always make a godfather offer to us, highly doubt it though. More likely is we get low balled by everybody, and end up paying him ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 And to the "we could have saved money if we paid him before the season," crowd. No not really. We offered 90+, with a willingness to go a little higher I'm sure. JC was looking for a max or a near max. So if we are giving him that kind of deal may as well get one more year of savings out of his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, warcore said: TJ McConnell.... have you been living under a rock? Indy wants JC, Kevin and three unprotected 1sts for McConnell. TS still negotiating the terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted January 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Indy wants JC, Kevin and three unprotected 1sts for McConnell. TS still negotiating the terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted January 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, bleachkit said: And to the "we could have saved money if we paid him before the season," crowd. No not really. We offered 90+, with a willingness to go a little higher I'm sure. JC was looking for a max or a near max. So if we are giving him that kind of deal may as well get one more year of savings out of his rookie deal. We aren't going to get one more year of savings out of his rookie deal (there are no actual dollars saved but we should have additional cap room until he signs) but I agree there was little downside in letting him "prove it" on this (theoretically) deeper and more balanced roster prior to giving him a max or near max deal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted January 21, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, AHF said: We aren't going to get one more year of savings out of his rookie deal (there are no actual dollars saved but we should have additional cap room until he signs) but I agree there was little downside in letting him "prove it" on this (theoretically) deeper and more balanced roster prior to giving him a max or near max deal. This. Collins' caphold is $12 million. Assuming projected salary cap between $112-$115 million, Hawks won't have any FA capspace, however if for example Gallo and Rondo can't stay healthy they become valuable expiring contracts in a trade, that's $27 million dollars, so having Collins $12 mil cap vs if we signed him to his new deal this offseason helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillent Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 If John really wants to be here I'd definitely keep him. I just hope he's all in and if so we got a big 3 - 5 with Dre and Cam and our bench is no joke either. It was just getting a little questionable and if that was the case better sooner than later. Who is TJ Mc Connell by the way? Y'all silly I hope y'all joking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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