Trae Young appears to have a more mature game now.

[Peoriabird]

I'm not sure whether he is playing better because of Nate McMillan's influence or not but its noticeable.  He is running the offense better and is taking better shots over the past 3 games which are reflected in his numbers.  All of his shooting metrics are up. Assist numbers are up. even his steals are up significantly.

FG%     62%

3FG%   47%

Assist   11.3 (should actually be higher if teammates could hit open shots and layups)

Steals   2pg vs .9pg last month

These are superstar numbers to say the least.  Lets hope this trend continues!

 

[NBASupes]

Hard to say but Nate knows when to call TO. One thing I notice is the entire coaching staff coaches. I don't think LP is as much the blame

[Peoriabird]

10 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Hard to say but Nate knows when to call TO. One thing I notice is the entire coaching staff coaches. I don't think LP is as much the blame

I think he is playing the best basketball of his career

[JayBirdHawk]

Trae's Goat Float is back.

[bleachkit]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

I'm not sure whether he is playing better because of Nate McMillan's influence or not but its noticeable.  He is running the offense better and is taking better shots over the past 3 games which are reflected in his numbers.  All of his shooting metrics are up. Assist numbers are up. even his steals are up significantly.

FG%     62%

3FG%   47%

Assist   11.3 (should actually be higher if teammates could hit open shots and layups)

Steals   2pg vs .9pg last month

These are superstar numbers to say the least.  Lets hope this trend continues!

 

He's been playing well recently, but I think grand pronouncements like he has "matured" are usually contrived and overdone. It's like when an announcer says a player has "confidence." Really the difference is the floater is falling.

Edited February 22, 2021 by bleachkit

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, Peoriabird said:

I'm not sure whether he is playing better because of Nate McMillan's influence or not but its noticeable.  He is running the offense better and is taking better shots over the past 3 games which are reflected in his numbers.  All of his shooting metrics are up. Assist numbers are up. even his steals are up significantly.

FG%     62%

3FG%   47%

Assist   11.3 (should actually be higher if teammates could hit open shots and layups)

Steals   2pg vs .9pg last month

These are superstar numbers to say the least.  Lets hope this trend continues!

 

Glad you finally came around to the reality that Trae plays better when he's taking long 3's and looking to score first and then be a facilitator.  The whole "make the right play" thing doesn't work with Trae.  As @TheNorthCydeRises and I and others have been saying for the last several weeks, he's most effective when he's a scorer first and a facilitator second.  The last 3 have been excellent, but he's also done it more and more even before that, but less consistently so.  

 

P.S. I hope you keep this same mindset when the shots aren't falling.  

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by REHawksFan

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, REHawksFan said:

Glad you finally came around to the reality that Trae plays better when he's taking long 3's and looking to score first and then be a facilitator.  The whole "make the right play" thing doesn't work with Trae.  As @TheNorthCydeRises and I and others have been saying for the last several weeks, he's most effective when he's a scorer first and a facilitator second.  The last 3 have been excellent, but he's also done it more and more even before that, but less consistently so.  

 

That floater and that 30 foot 3 pointer falling helps Trae a ton.

[REHawksFan]

Just now, NBASupes said:

That floater and that 30 foot 3 pointer falling helps Trae a ton.

Agreed.  Trae is playing more assertively / aggressively / in charge of the offense which is a mindset.  That's true.  But the biggest difference in the last 3 games and ones immediately prior to is the make vs miss.  In both Dallas games he played with the same mentality but they lost both because he shot poorly.  What you can't have is Trae taking 4 3's (vs NYK) or 0 3's (vs Pacers) and expect to win.  THAT'S the mentality / style of play thing.  

[Peoriabird]

I only see 1 long 3 from last night's game

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=trae+young+shot+chart+in+last+night's+game

 

[bleachkit]

24 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Glad you finally came around to the reality that Trae plays better when he's taking long 3's and looking to score first and then be a facilitator.  The whole "make the right play" thing doesn't work with Trae.  As @TheNorthCydeRises and I and others have been saying for the last several weeks, he's most effective when he's a scorer first and a facilitator second.  The last 3 have been excellent, but he's also done it more and more even before that, but less consistently so.  

 

P.S. I hope you keep this same mindset when the shots aren't falling.  

 

He's hitting his shots. That's the difference. It has nothing to do with forcing Trae to be something he's not. That's just irrelevant fodder for us to argue about. Bottom line, it's a make or miss league. When he' making them all is well.

[macdaddy]

Boston and Denver aren't physical teams in my opinion.   They are good though.   We have to figure out how to deal with the Knicks, Raps, Heat who are going to try to muscle us.  That's not as much on Trae as the other guys. 

[bleachkit]

27 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

That floater and that 30 foot 3 pointer falling helps Trae a ton.

Helps a ton is an understatement. If Trae is making his 30 footers and floaters he's one of the most devastating offensive players in the league. If he's not making them, well he's a liability quite honestly.

[JayBirdHawk]

It's also a function of how teams defend Trae.  The more aggressive physical teams like the Spurs, Pacers, Knicks made it a priority to double team, trap, ball deny, full court press Trae for 48 minutes - the last 3 games not so much.

[Peoriabird]

12 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

I only see 1 long 3 from last night's game

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=trae+young+shot+chart+in+last+night's+game

 

He had 5 long 3 attempts in Boston in defeat so I'm not sure there is a correlation between long 3 attempts and winning.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/trae-young-shot-chart-vs-the-last-game-in-boston

[bleachkit]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

It's also a function of how teams defend Trae.  The more aggressive physical teams like the Spurs, Pacers, Knicks made it a priority to double team, trap, ball deny, full court press Trae for 48 minutes - the last 3 games not so much.

Why teams dont is beyond me. Even is doubling or trapping Trae costs you some open looks, then so be it. 

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

He's hitting his shots. That's the difference. It has nothing to do with forcing Trae to be something he's not. That's just irrelevant fodder for us to argue about. Bottom line, it's a make or miss league. When he' making them all is well.

Same thing with his assists, if any of those 3 left handed cross court passes from last night had been picked off - it would be 'sloppy TOs' - that's why I say 'live with the TO's' when he has this aggressive mindset scoring and passing.

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

He had 5 long 3 attempts in Boston in defeat so I'm not sure there is a correlation between long 3 attempts and winning.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/trae-young-shot-chart-vs-the-last-game-in-boston

It's not the attempts - it's if he makes or misses them that matter and changes the narrative.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

It's not the attempts - it's if he makes or misses them that matter and changes the narrative.

Someone who shall remain nameless because of his attacking nature was making the correlation between long 3 attempts and winning

[REHawksFan]

9 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

He had 5 long 3 attempts in Boston in defeat so I'm not sure there is a correlation between long 3 attempts and winning.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/trae-young-shot-chart-vs-the-last-game-in-boston

Not sure about that.  Here's the last 4 games from BBRef.  I guess it depends on how you define long attempts.  But my point has never been that he needs to take LONG 3pts.  He needs to attempt 3pts period.  As in, he avg 7.1 attempts in 13 wins and 5.5 attempts in 15 losses.  The last 3 games are highlighted by MAKING a high percentage, but the style of play is what's necessary.  

[REHawksFan]

It's not JUST long 3's, PEO.  It's the whole style he plays with and part of that is taking long 3's.  You argue that he's shouldn't take 3's and that's just factually incorrect.  Also, nice passive aggressive post.  I guess we can't have a normal conversation anymore?