Dejay Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: Easily the best GM in Hawks history. Not even close. I said this weeks ago. This shouldn't even be debatable anymore as there is no one comparable to him... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member turnermx Posted July 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Spud2nique said: Nicknames for Sharife? Supercooper? Winnie Cooper! had a crush on her back in the day Trav nailed this draft! oh boy I'm excited to see these guys play in summer league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Look. I'm gonna say it. Its NOT a negative on Trae. Sharife appears to be as good or a better passer than even Trae. WHY? Its because his FIRST instinct is to get others involved. Trae finishes at the rim for his own shot. This guy finishes to get YOU to the rim. If the guy had a DECENT jumper, he is a allstar. Travis keeps finding these players. Again, he is NOT Trae Young. Let me make that clear. He is the playmaker the Hawks need in addition to Trae. The second unit has a legit starting NBA point guard. There is now zero drop off in playmaking ability when Trae is not on the floor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Dejay said: I said this weeks ago. This shouldn't even be debatable anymore as there is no one comparable to him... Ferry was a clear second, but still waay behind Travis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkmoor Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, gurpilo said: First time in many many years we got a steal on 2nd round. I always was looking at other teams getting steals and wondering why we saw no value at 2nd round. There have been several cases on recent years that many people saw It clear and we were passing. Well finnally we were the obra getting the 2nd round steal this year. The only issue is that Cooper is a bad fit next to Trae, we needed a Big defensive PG and Cooper is as small and a bad defender. However his potential is so Big that you cannot pass on a player like that Dunn is that big defender for the second unit. You could play Cooper next to Trae in a small lineup with Hunter and Cam as the wings to provide cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted July 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 This fills a need in the second unit, no more Bogi and Huerter having to play minutes at the 1 where they are defensive liabilities. I know this kid isn't a defnder, but this will be a net positive on both ends for the 2nd unit in my opinion. We'll trot out Sharif/Dunn Huerter Cam/Johnson Gallo/Johnson Okonguw That's fire right there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted July 30, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 I would not have been sad seeing us take Cooper with the #20 overall pick. Could not be more thrilled to get him at #48. This is the most excited I've been about a second round pick in over a decade. Feel like this was a hit it out of the park pick for TS. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Quote Strengths Has a real case as the best ballhandler in this class. He is a ridiculous playmaker with the ball in hand. Has real speed and keeps the ball on a string while changing pace and direction with ease. Very good at shifting gears. Has a good crossover and a nasty inside-out dribble that freezes defenders. Tough combination of herky-jerky handles with a smooth acceleration. Really reacts to how defenders play him, then makes his own move after they make theirs as opposed to pre-ordaining them. Despite lacking size, he plays through contact well. Hard to displace him as he makes his initial move. Has good core strength to where he doesn’t lose his balance. Because of that, he lives at the rim. His 6.1 attempts at the rim in half-court settings was the most of any guard in college basketball this past season. Additionally, an elite live-dribble passer. Can make every pass in the book after drawing defenders toward him. Knows how to patiently bring the help toward him and draw them out to open passing angles. Knows how to manipulate defenders with his eyes before throwing impressive no-look passes. Quote Weaknesses He’s 6-foot-1 or so with an even wingspan. There just aren’t many guys in the NBA who have success at those dimensions, and those dimensions are a particular issue for some of the weaknesses that already bear themselves out in his game, despite his tremendous production. With his scoring efficiency, he can get where he needs to go, but once he gets there, can he do enough to get what he has to? Really struggles to shoot the ball. Made 82.5 percent of free throws but was really rough in the run of play. Hit under 25 percent from 3. Has real natural touch, but it takes him far too long to load into the shot. Not fluid with ball pickup and has a bit of a two-motion jumper that leads to more contested shots. Also has a natural left lean to his shot that seems to slightly throw off his balance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomac Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 If he works on his floater and his J, he's an allstar-level talent. He needs to be attached to Trae at the hip. We will have the best second unit in the NBA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kg01 Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 In fairness, a lot of folks thought Cooper was a worse defensive player than Trae was at OK. Said Trae was indifferent, Cooper was just bad - it's not weird that he fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted July 30, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 It's kind of funny how these are some of the same knocks Trae Young had coming out. Schlenk said he was shooting the ef out of the ball in their workout so hopefully he can become a consistent outside shooter because that's key in the NBA today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted July 30, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Question for the draft experts because i don't watch a ton of college. I'm always pumped with our draft prospects but it seems like everyone thinks Cooper is a lot better than Mays right? Was it just a deeper draft for PGs this year or Cooper fell for some other reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, macdaddy said: Question for the draft experts because i don't watch a ton of college. I'm always pumped with our draft prospects but it seems like everyone thinks Cooper is a lot better than Mays right? Was it just a deeper draft for PGs this year or Cooper fell for some other reasons? Mays is a tad better at Basketball as a prospect than Cooper is right now but Cooper is a lot more gifted and has superior upside. Generally guys with Coop's talent goes in the top 10, not in late 40s, early 50s range. While you can find Mays in this range like every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, NBASupes said: Wtf it’s like the NBA is trying to help Schlenk build Voltron. They ought to be ashamed letting this kid fall into a situation where he can nearly replicate what Trae does while sharpening his skills versus Dunn’s ball pressure and just flat out competing with Mays. When he mentioned Jimmy Butler you know I was done. This kid is a pure hooper. Our depth is gonna be just silly. Schmitz does an excellent job with these by the way. On what planet do you put him on the same draft analysis panel as Kendrick Perkins is beyond me. I’ve never been this remotely intrigued/ ecstatic about a Hawks offseason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, benhillboy said: Wtf it’s like the NBA is trying to help Schlenk build Voltron. They ought to be ashamed letting this kid fall into a situation where he can nearly replicate what Trae does while sharpening his skills versus Dunn’s ball pressure and just flat out competing with Mays. When he mentioned Jimmy Butler you know I was done. This kid is a pure hooper. Our depth is gonna be just silly. Schmitz does an excellent job with these by the way. On what planet do you put him on the same draft analysis panel as Kendrick Perkins is beyond me. I’ve never been this remotely intrigued/ ecstatic about a Hawks offseason. I love Perk for what he is, I didn't enjoy his player analysis but I enjoyed his personality and entertainment, especially in the 2nd round. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 hours ago, NBASupes said: It's been awhile. When the last time we hit on a 2nd rounder? The Ferry era with Mike Scott and Muscala? Devonte Graham was pretty good for a 2nd rdr....Oh wait..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I love Perk for what he is, I didn't enjoy his player analysis but I enjoyed his personality and entertainment, especially in the 2nd round. True he is like your crazy uncle in that respect. I don’t worry about the obvious knocks on his defense. He’ll know out the gate if he doesn’t put forth effort for Nate he ain’t getting no run. With our abundance of screeners, finishers, and shooters I’m confident he’s gonna do what he needs to unlock the loads of fun he can have with this roster. Edited July 30, 2021 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 30, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 ESPN Projections for Cooper: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Cooper is exactly what this team needs from our backup PG. We need another “engine” when Trae hits the bench. I said this a week or so ago and Schlenk pulled it off…with a 2nd round pick. Literally the best facilitator in the draft…in the 2nd round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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