Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted September 22, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 FWIW I tallied the "SUM-MELOS" (explained on page 81 in the back of the below Dynasty Draft thread -- Please excuse Miss Ashley, she's fresh from the shower! Don't be so Juddmental!)... ... for 2016-17 through 2020-21 and will summarize the results either this week or next depending on when I get freed up. Some early items gleaned from the assessment... * SUM-MELO, back in 2016, correctly predicted four of the top five 2020-21 finishers, albeit not in order. * Jokic and Embiid were drafted WHERE??? * Most everyone drafted between two and five players who are long gone from the NBA by 2020-21. @Diesel, @h4wkfan, JayBirdHawk, and @ViewsFromTheSquawk fared the best in drafting players still active. * 12 of 16 teams finished Top-5 in at least one season. * 2 teams finished 2020-21 better than in 2016-17 * 6 teams finished 2020-21 better than in 2019-20 * The top nine 2020-21 finishers all exceeded 2016 predictions of SUM-MELO for that fifth season, by a range of 17 to 37 percent. * "Champs" (Top spots in SUM-MELO) for each season... @Alex (2016-17), @capstone21 (2017-18), @JayBirdHawk (2018-19, best single season over five years), and two-time reigning champ @AHF (2019-20, 2020-21) * 2020-21's top five finishers drafted at the top (1st), early-middle (7th and 8th), and bottom (15th and 16th) of the Dynasty Draft. Top-5 in 2020-21... AHF, @Buzzard, capstone21, JayBirdHawk, and @HopefulHawksFan. ~lw3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said: FWIW I tallied the "SUM-MELOS" (explained on page 81 in the back of the below Dynasty Draft thread -- Please excuse Miss Ashley, she's fresh from the shower! Don't be so Juddmental!)... ... for 2016-17 through 2020-21 and will summarize the results either this week or next depending on when I get freed up. Some early items gleaned from the assessment... * SUM-MELO, back in 2016, correctly predicted four of the top five 2020-21 finishers, albeit not in order. * Jokic and Embiid were drafted WHERE??? * Most everyone drafted between two and five players who are long gone from the NBA by 2020-21. @Diesel, @h4wkfan, JayBirdHawk, and @ViewsFromTheSquawk fared the best in drafting players still active. * 12 of 16 teams finished Top-5 in at least one season. * 2 teams finished 2020-21 better than in 2016-17 * 6 teams finished 2020-21 better than in 2019-20 * The top nine 2020-21 finishers all exceeded 2016 predictions of SUM-MELO for that fifth season, by a range of 17 to 37 percent. * "Champs" (Top spots in SUM-MELO) for each season... @Alex (2016-17), @capstone21 (2017-18), @JayBirdHawk (2018-19, best single season over five years), and two-time reigning champ @AHF (2019-20, 2020-21) * 2020-21's top five finishers drafted at the top (1st), early-middle (7th and 8th), and bottom (15th and 16th) of the Dynasty Draft. Top-5 in 2020-21... AHF, @Buzzard, capstone21, JayBirdHawk, and @HopefulHawksFan. ~lw3 Perfect Just where I like to be, not slippin and not showing off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 I am game and also are we doing another Yahoo Squawk Basketball League? I have bem in one of those as well for several years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buzzard said: I am game and also are we doing another Yahoo Squawk Basketball League? I have bem in one of those as well for several years. I just went into Yahoo and see the live draft is October 11th! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Buzzard said: I just went into Yahoo and see the live draft is October 11th! Ya I was just gonna tell u that. But now I noticed 12 teams we should have kept it at 10, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Ya I was just gonna tell u that. But now I noticed 12 teams we should have kept it at 10, oh well. Why should it be 10? Not enough players or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Buzzard said: Why should it be 10? Not enough players or something? No I think it’s been 10 for the last … since I can remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 * Summations of CARMELO scores (SUM-MELOs) assumed a minus-0.1 score for players who were inactive/retired/had an unavailable CARMELO score in any particular season. TOP-FIVES BY SEASON 2016-17: 1. Whining Spartans Fan (@Alex) – 54.6 2. @AHF U-Niques – 54.1 3. (tie-3rd) H4wkfans (@h4wkfan / @IheartVolt) – 51.1 4. (tie-3rd) New Day Rocks (@LucastheThird) – 51.1 5. Atlanta Ganstaslappas (@Diesel) – 48.5 Dynasty MVP: Kawhi Leonard (Whining Spartans Fan) – 15.2 Scoring Leader: Stephen Curry (H4wkfans) – 17.3 2017-18: 1. Capstone’s Crew (@capstone21) – 58.1 2. AHF U-Niques – 57.7 3. Flocking Buzzards (@Buzzard) – 56.7 4. Birds of a Feather (@PSSSHHHRRR87) – 48.3 5. Lethal Obsession (@lethalweapon3) – 44.7 Dynasty MVP: Victor Oladipo (Capstone’s Crew) – 14.1 Scoring Leader: James Harden (Flocking Buzzards) – 17.4 2018-19: 1. Jaybird Lady Squawkers (@JayBirdHawk) – 60.6 2. AHF U-Niques – 58.9 3. Flocking Buzzards – 53.2 4. New Day Rocks – 46.2 5. Hopeful Hawks Fans (@HopefulHawksFan) – 45.2 Dynasty MVP: Paul George (Jaybird Lady Squawkers) – 18.5 Scoring Leader: James Harden (Flocking Buzzards) – 20.1 2019-20: 1. AHF U-Niques – 53.3 2. Flocking Buzzards – 42.7 3. (tie-3rd) Atlanta Air Force (@pimp) – 37.4 4. (tie-3rd) Birds of a Feather – 37.4 5. (tie-5th) Lethal Obsession – 36.5 6. (tie-5th) New Day Rocks – 36.5 Dynasty MVP: Rudy Gobert (AHF U-Niques) – 11.4 Scoring Leader: James Harden (Flocking Buzzards) – 19.4 2020-21: 1. AHF U-Niques – 46.1 2. Flocking Buzzards – 44.3 3. Capstone’s Crew – 41.8 4. Jaybird Lady Sqauwkers – 37.1 5. Hopeful Hawks Fans – 33.1 Dynasty MVP: Rudy Gobert (AHF U-Niques) – 13.6 Scoring Leader: Nikola Jokic (Hopeful Hawks Fans) – 17.5 Individual team profiles to follow. ~lw3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 AHF U-NIQUES GM/PBO: AHF Head Coach: Quin Snyder First-Round Draft Position: 7th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 35.1 (2nd) 2020-21 Finish: 46.1 (1st, above Projection by 31.3%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Kyle Lowry, Jamal Murray, Jaylen Brown, Kevin Durant, Rudy Gobert; Marcus Smart, Danny Green, Dario Saric Scouting Report: Likely the most successful of teams with a current All-Star-level starting five, especially if Murray could have stayed healthy in time for 2021's postseason. SUM-MELOs by Season: 54.1 (2nd in 2016-17) / 57.7 (2nd in 2017-18) / 58.9 (2nd in 2018-19) / 53.3 (1st in 2019-20) / 46.1 (1st in 2020-21) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 FLOCKING BUZZARDS GM/PBO: Buzzard Head Coach: Dwane Casey First-Round Draft Position: 15th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 36.7 (1st) 2020-21 Finish: 44.3 (2nd, above Projection by 20.7%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: John Wall, Jrue Holiday, James Harden, Kyle Anderson, Joel Embiid; Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jakob Poeltl Scouting Report: Led by a pair of perennial MVP contenders (incl. Embiid at pick #96), the Buzzards would fly higher with a healthy Wall, but at least Holiday has picked up the slack. SUM-MELOs by Season: 42.8 (10th in 2016-17) / 56.7 (3rd in 2017-18) / 53.2 (3rd in 2018-19) / 42.7 (2nd in 2019-20) / 44.3 (2nd in 2020-21) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 CAPSTONE’S CREW GM/PBO: capstone21 Head Coach: Mike Budenholzer First-Round Draft Position: 1st 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 27.8 (5th) 2020-21 Finish: 41.8 (3rd, above Projection by 50.4%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Reggie Jackson, Nicolas Batum, Harrison Barnes, Karl-Anthony Towns, Clint Capela; Victor Oladipo, Rudy Gay, Al Horford Scouting Report: Buoyed by lots of still-active NBA players, Horford's and Oladipo's ebbs have been compensated on the Crew by the rebounding careers of several veterans. SUM-MELOs by Season: 47.1 (6th in 2016-17) / 58.1 (1st in 2017-18) / 43.7 (5th in 2018-19) / 27.0 (11th in 2019-20) / 41.8 (3rd in 2020-21) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 JAYBIRD LADY SQUAWKERS GM/PBO: JayBirdHawk Head Coach: Gregg Popovich First-Round Draft Position: 8th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 26.0 (10th) 2020-21 Finish: 37.1 (4th, above Projection by 42.7%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Mike Conley, Khris Middleton, Paul George, Dwight Powell, Jusuf Nurkic; Justise Winslow, Jabari Parker, Steven Adams Scouting Report: Although guard depth is a challenge, the Lady Squawkers would have a sturdy starting five in 2021, especially if Coach Pop could figure a way to get Adams and Nurkic on the floor together. SUM-MELOs by Season: 33.2 (15th in 2016-17) / 40.1 (8th in 2017-18) / 60.6 (Peak Season by any team, 1st in 2018-19) / 28.6 (10th in 2019-20) / 37.1 (4th in 2020-21) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 HOPEFUL HAWKS FANS GM/PBO: HopefulHawksFan Head Coach: Erik Spoelstra First-Round Draft Position: 16th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 28.0 (3rd) 2020-21 Finish: 33.1 (5th, above Projection by 18.2%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Kyrie Irving, Goran Dragic, Aaron Gordon, Domantas Sabonis, Nikola Jokic; Malik Beasley, Taurean Prince, Hassan Whiteside Scouting Report: A few too many retirees and inactives to contend in 2021, but the Hopefuls hit it out the park with picks like MVP Jokic at #48 and Sabonis to support Kyrie. SUM-MELOs by Season: 35.1 (13th in 2016-17) / 34.8 (10th in 2017-18) / 45.2 (5th in 2018-19) / 33.6 (8th in 2019-20) / 33.1 (5th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 VIEWS’ SQUAD GM/PBO: @ViewsFromTheSquawk Head Coach: Brad Stevens First-Round Draft Position: 3rd 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 22.1 (13th) 2020-21 Finish: 31.2 (6th, above Projection by 41.2%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Russell Westbrook, Buddy Hield, Gordon Hayward, Julius Randle, Nikola Vucevic; D’Angelo Russell, Derrick Rose, Norman Powell Scouting Report: A sturdy crew now led by Randle, the Russells' high-volume but low-MELO scores and Hayward's injuries keep them from climbing higher. SUM-MELOs by Season: 37.8 (12th in 2016-17) / 23.9 (15th in 2017-18) / 37.7 (10th in 2018-19) / 24.4 (14th in 2019-20) / 31.2 (6th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 SPUDSTERS GM/PBO: Spud2Nique Head Coach: Billy Donovan First-Round Draft Position: 13th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 27.3 (tie-7th) 2020-21 Finish: 31.0 (7th, above Projection by 13.6%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Dennis Schröder, Devin Booker, Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, Gorgui Dieng; Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Stanley Johnson, Tristan Thompson Scouting Report: Booker and Jimmy hitting their strides, with Draymond holding steady in 2021, keeps this boat afloat. A few of the overseas selections didn't pan out in the long run. SUM-MELOs by Season: 43.0 (9th in 2016-17) / 31.4 (12th in 2017-18) / 28.1 (13th in 2018-19) / 30.7 (9th in 2019-20) / 31.0 (7th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 ATLANTA GANSTASLAPPAS GM/PBO: Diesel Head Coach: Stan Van Gundy First-Round Draft Position: 14th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 17.0 (15th) 2020-21 Finish: 30.8 (8th, above Projection by League-best 81.2%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Jordan Clarkson, Klay Thompson, Jae Crowder, Tobias Harris, Andre Drummond; Cory Joseph, George Hill, Thaddeus Young Scouting Report: With the sole inactives as BIG3 title contenders, the Slappas still have lots of role-playing bigs and a super sixth-man. Would rank higher with a functional Klay and Kevin Love. SUM-MELOs by Season: 48.5 (5th in 2016-17) / 33.9 (11th in 2017-18) / 42.1 (8th in 2018-19) / 25.3 (13th in 2019-20) / 30.8 (8th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 BIRDS OF A FEATHER GM/PBO: PSSSHHHRRR87 Head Coach: Kenny Atkinson First-Round Draft Position: 2nd 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 19.3 (14th) 2020-21 Finish: 30.1 (9th, above Projection by 56.0%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: LeBron James, Andrew Wiggins, Robert Covington, Kelly Olynyk, Serge Ibaka; Rajon Rondo, Alec Burks, Dwight Howard Scouting Report: LeBron is still going strong, and he's flanked by serviceable forwards and bigs. Sadly, the options at the guard spots has Bron extending arms in frustration. SUM-MELOs by Season: 45.4 (8th in 2016-17) / 48.3 (4th in 2017-18) / 27.1 (tie-14th in 2018-19) / 37.4 (tie-3rdin 2019-20) / 30.1 (9th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 LETHAL OBSESSION GM/PBO: lethalweapon3 Head Coach: Terry Stotts First-Round Draft Position: 11th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 31.3 (3rd) 2020-21 Finish: 27.9 (10th, below Projection by 10.9%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Chris Paul, Brandon Ingram, Kent Bazemore, Bobby Portis, Jonas Valanciunas; Josh Richardson, Robin Lopez, Kristaps Porzingis Scouting Report: A mediocre squad, despite a pair of All-Star-caliber guards and serviceable bigs. Aside from Porzingis, drop-offs from prior-season peaks have been mild. SUM-MELOs by Season: 33.7 (14th in 2016-17) / 44.7 (5th in 2017-18) / 21.8 (16th in 2018-19) / 36.5 (tie-5th in 2019-20) / 27.9 (10th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 NEW DAY ROCKS GM/PBO: LucastheThird Head Coach: Jason Kidd First-Round Draft Position: 10th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 26.5 (9th) 2020-21 Finish: 27.6 (11th, above Projection by 4.2%) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Kemba Walker, Seth Curry, Bradley Beal, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Nerlens Noel; Elfrid Payton, Dion Waiters, LaMarcus Aldridge Scouting Report: Giannis, Brad, and Kemba could only carry this collective but so far. Much of the supporting cast either have moved on, are playing overseas, or soon will be. SUM-MELOs by Season: 51.1 (tie-3rd in 2016-17) / 41.8 (6th in 2017-18) / 46.2 (4th in 2018-19) / 36.5 (tie-5th in 2019-20) / 27.6 (11th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted October 13, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 H4WKFANS GM/PBO: h4wkfan / iheartVolt Head Coach: Rick Carlisle First-Round Draft Position: 5th 2020-21 Projection in 2016: 27.4 (6th) 2020-21 Finish: 26.2 (12th, below Projection by 4.4 percent) Likely 8-Player Rotation: Stephen Curry, Evan Fournier, Will Barton, Derrick Favors, Myles Turner; Patrick Beverley, Patty Mills, Wesley Matthews Scouting Report: Curry and Turner hold up the tentpoles for a squad loaded with active players who peaked at least a couple seasons ago. SUM-MELOs by Season: 51.1 (tie-3rd in 2016-17) / 36.2 (9th in 2017-18) / 43.5 (7th in 2018-19) / 33.7 (7th in 2019-20) / 26.2 (12th in 2020-21) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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