marco102 Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) It's the boring time of the year, so why not do this exercise. I can honestly put him anywhere from 3 - 5 . There is no way Lonzo Ball should be ahead of John Collins. Here are John Collin's rank in his class. I haven't verified these, but he sure looks like the 3rd - 5th best player. Where would you rank him? Edited September 14, 2021 by marco102 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted September 14, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 4th seems fair to me. Fox is no slouch either. He'll look a lot better with a better team around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, hawkman said: 4th seems fair to me. Fox is no slouch either. He'll look a lot better with a better team around him. I can see Fox being ahead of him, but not Lonzo...lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted September 14, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 I'd say 5 is right, but I would swap Fox and Ball. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 #1 over Tatum's overrated, chukkin' arse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, kg01 said: #1 over Tatum's overrated, chukkin' arse. Lol..I'd have Mitchell one and Tatum two. No idea why the media just acts like Tatum is so much better than Mitchell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, marco102 said: Lol..I'd have Mitchell one and Tatum two. No idea why the media just acts like Tatum is so much better than Mitchell. Hey, you have the right to be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Mitch, Bam Fox DA BAP (not necessarily in that order but maybe ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 From 19th to top 10 easy. Then, chop that in half. Top 5! Wonder what they will say about this year's draft? Betcha the Hawks come up there too! Collins - - Top 5 in the draft! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted September 14, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 Ball being that high is ridiculous. I know people are excited about signing him in Chicago but...here is your 2017 draft sorted by win shares: In case you missed Ball, he is down there below Luke Kennard despite having played almost 2000 minutes more than Luke Kennard. I know it is appropriate to put some future projection in here and that Win Shares aren't the be all, end all of stats but give me a break. Ball shouldn't be in the conversation for the top 5. The real debate is between Allen, JC and Fox behind Mitchell, Bam and Tatum, imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 14, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, AHF said: Ball being that high is ridiculous. I know people are excited about signing him in Chicago but...here is your 2017 draft sorted by win shares: In case you missed Ball, he is down there below Luke Kennard despite having played almost 2000 minutes more than Luke Kennard. I know it is appropriate to put some future projection in here and that Win Shares aren't the be all, end all of stats but give me a break. Ball shouldn't be in the conversation for the top 5. The real debate is between Allen, JC and Fox behind Mitchell, Bam and Tatum, imo. Who is OG Anunoby? Is he related to OG Bobby Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted September 14, 2021 Report Share Posted September 14, 2021 I’d probably go Tatum, Mitchell, Fox, Bam, and JC in that order. Guys that can create their own offense are just more valuable. It would be interesting to see what Isaac could do if he ever stayed healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Diesel said: Who is OG Anunoby? Is he related to OG Bobby Johnson? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) I feel like the 2017 redraft was already a heavily debated topic over the last two or three weeks, lol. Edited September 15, 2021 by RandomFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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