Do you believe in the Trae Young Rule Yet.

[Diesel]

1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:

This is the part I was referencing.  They showed the move Trae does most(?) often and it's still a foul on the defender as long as he doesn't jump abnormally to take the shot (like Curry in the link you posted).

I think they will get Trae with the same call they gave for Curry.  The brake will get called as if he's moving abnormally backwards into the defender. 

 

[kg01]

1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:

hahah sorry I got super busy at work.  Marco posted the video already it looks like...  At 1 minute into the Curry video in that series of ref tweets, you can see Trae brake check and they use it as the example of still being a foul on the defender...

Thanks @marco102 !

"Busy"?  At "work"?

Anyway, ol' jeffy comes through like a champ.  I've officially dropped the turd in the RgM punch bowl.

I'm girded and ready so that can only mean one thing ....

[JeffS17]

@kg01 I need updates.  I don't have a RealGM account and honestly the one time I tried I couldn't navigate my way around that forum.

[marco102]

5 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

@kg01 I need updates.  I don't have a RealGM account and honestly the one time I tried I couldn't navigate my way around that forum.

Consider yourself lucky.  It's the ESPN of message boards.  So many uniformed opinions and group think.

[JayBirdHawk]

16 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

@kg01 I need updates.  I don't have a RealGM account and honestly the one time I tried I couldn't navigate my way around that forum.

Yeah...don't go over there....I usually go over there to just post ....'NO, Hawks pass' on the many horrible trade ideas.

[kg01]

9 hours ago, JeffS17 said:

@kg01 I need updates.  I don't have a RealGM account and honestly the one time I tried I couldn't navigate my way around that forum.

No bites so far.  Perhaps I intimidated them with my Gallo-esque chess' poked out?

[TheNorthCydeRises]

On 10/18/2021 at 10:52 PM, Diesel said:

I think they will get Trae with the same call they gave for Curry.  The brake will get called as if he's moving abnormally backwards into the defender. 

 

But he almost never moves backward into the defender when he's "brake checking".  Trae goes straight up and just takes the contact.

Trae should use these early games to see exactly what he can do ( or get away with ).  He needs a clear understanding on what will be called a foul, and what will not.  After he makes that determination, he'll make the adjustment and be even more lethal.

One thing about Trae, he is NOT afraid to take the hit.  And if he takes the hit and doesn't get the call, Nate and Tony better be ready to speak out against the lack of calls their superstar is getting.  Take that fine, but make sure everyone hears your frustration as to how the game is being called against Trae.

[Gray Mule]

Refs under pressure.  New rule, the Trae rule, to be enforced on Trae.  But, if they only apply the rule to our PG, they will surely be called out right away.  NBA rules must apply to all NBA players.  

What this change means is, all those NBA players who have, for many years, operated this way will now find that it is against the Trae rule.  Refs must enforce the rule across all of the NBA.  As if they didn't already have enough to worry about, now they must force all these players to change or face the consequences.

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

But he almost never moves backward into the defender when he's "brake checking".  Trae goes straight up and just takes the contact.

Trae should use these early games to see exactly what he can do ( or get away with ).  He needs a clear understanding on what will be called a foul, and what will not.  After he makes that determination, he'll make the adjustment and be even more lethal.

One thing about Trae, he is NOT afraid to take the hit.  And if he takes the hit and doesn't get the call, Nate and Tony better be ready to speak out against the lack of calls their superstar is getting.  Take that fine, but make sure everyone hears your frustration as to how the game is being called against Trae.

I agree.. I just know that there's a different mode of action that these refs take in different spots.   They will call things in the playoffs that they didn't call in the regular season.   I see the Trae Rules as being rules for the post season to keep teams like ours in check.  They don't want us in the finals.  Do you know how scared they were when we beat Mil in game 1?  The League had to think about if it could recover from an Atlanta/Phoenix finals. 

 

[hazer]

Guess we can put that nonsense to rest

[hazer]

21 minutes ago, hazer said:

Guess we can put that nonsense to rest

I deliberately didn’t read this thread waiting for that 1st real-life call to post. Aaaaand, we can now close that book and abandon this one

[hazer]

Nails. Coffin.  

[AHF]

This was a pretty incredible low FT game.  Trae got 5 of the Hawks total 9 FTA.  Luka got 4 of the Mavs total 13 FTA.

[hazer]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

This was a pretty incredible low FT game.  Trae got 5 of the Hawks total 9 FTA.  Luka got 4 of the Mavs total 13 FTA.

But Trae still got the “slam-on-the-brakes” call, so it’s not the Trae Young Rule. Curry/Harden rule.

[Atlantaholic]

Not calling the put on the breaks move makes sense to me. If you are directly behind the offensive player it means you were beat, you shouldn't catch a break if you run into the guy.

[hazer]

1 minute ago, Atlantaholic said:

Not calling the put on the breaks move makes sense to me. If you are directly behind the offensive player it means you were beat, you shouldn't catch a break if you run into the guy.

Agreed. Still calling that a foul on the defender is the correct move, which is what the refs did last night

[macdaddy]

4 minutes ago, hazer said:

Agreed. Still calling that a foul on the defender is the correct move, which is what the refs did last night

Yep Hardaway was mad but if you're draped on the guy's back you better watch out.   He's entitled to go up at anytime.  

[kg01]

5 minutes ago, hazer said:

Agreed. Still calling that a foul on the defender is the correct move, which is what the refs did last night

I been bare-knuckles brawling on RgM about this all day.  The hate for Trae is real.

And, in case anyone doesn't know, @Sothron wants all the smoke.  I see you, saphron.

[Sothron]

23 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I been bare-knuckles brawling on RgM about this all day.  The hate for Trae is real.

And, in case anyone doesn't know, @Sothron wants all the smoke.  I see you, saphron.

Those people are either intentionally biased against Trae to not think a defender running into a ball handler is a foul or they literally know nothing of basketball. There's only two options. Running into the guy with the damn ball in his hands has always been a foul and always will be a foul. Trae Young didn't invent the stop and start to get a foul. Tiny Archibald is the first guy I remember doing it. I definitely remember Isiah Thomas doing it and Mark Price would do it as well. 

Guys in today's game with no hand checking have to commit with their body momentum so much more than previous eras though.  When players now do the stop and start (my Dad taught me that trick in sixth grade, it is what he called it so I'm assuming that's the name for it since he coached basketball) it is more effective because defenders can't have their paws all over you already slowing down your momentum and direction.

Since you can't touch a guy now if you stop and start with an aggressive defender you will get that call. And that's legitimate. It is exactly the same thing as a charging foul except it is on offense. It draws a legit foul and it forces the defender to give you a little more space as the ball handler.

There's absolutely nothing wrong it. Trae isn't doing the stop and start every time down the court. He knows exactly when to do it and it gives him a little more breathing room as a result. This is basketball IQ at its finest.

Edit: and yes @kg01 I do let my...I wouldn't call it trollish but my DGAF opinions about the Hawks and the NBA go in the realgm boards. Those ppl have zero respect for our franchise and our players so I give it right back to them. I want all that smoke.

[Spud2nique]

Just like cars if you are the car in front you can break at anytime and if they hit you from behind it’s on them. But you just can’t put it in reverse.

@hazer thank you. The Curry/Harden rule. Trae doesn’t do that.