Premium Member Diesel Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Paul George to Atlanta Reddish, Bogi, Gallo, and 2 1st rounders to LAC. Without Kawhi, Playoff P is being wasted in LAC. He's older next year. George Brings Atlanta that #1 player that Trae can play with. Clipps get youth and potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post sturt Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Pass. As a rule, I would never make a move this early in any given season. Takes about 25 games for a team to get settled. After that, I look at those next 5-10 games to assess SWOT. And. Paul George, even if available, doesn't move the needle for me. And... doesn't this belong in the Trades forum? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cwell Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 You just want to trade just to trade. Gets old. I knew what this was before I even clicked on it smh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Everyone I guess is convinced that the Hawks problems are with other players but not Trae himself. I strongly disagree. As we have seen this year, improving the roster has not changed much yet. Success/failure still depends on main one guy playing well because the game is controlled by that 1 guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 4, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Everyone I guess is convinced that the Hawks problems are with other players but not Trae himself. I strongly disagree. As we have seen this year, improving the roster has not changed much yet. Success/failure still depends on main one guy playing well because the game is controlled by that 1 guy. What team would this not apply to? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 hours ago, macdaddy said: What team would this not apply to? Exactly. Take the best player on every team, let him play like ish and see what happens. The irrational Trae hate/bashing by professing Hawks fans is completely insane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Nah fam. lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Peoriabird said: Success/failure still depends on main one guy playing Should have just stopped there. Trae has his issues and he can have some plays that are just plain head scratching, shooting ill-advised 3s early in the clock, sloppy passes, defense etc........but in that third quarter..... Hawks were down 4 when Trae exiting the game with 1 minute and 50 seconds to go. Hawks scored ZERO points and gave up 12 ballooning the lead to 16 points. That is where the game got out of control. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Diesel said: Paul George to Atlanta Reddish, Bogi, Gallo, and 2 1st rounders to LAC. Without Kawhi, Playoff P is being wasted in LAC. He's older next year. George Brings Atlanta that #1 player that Trae can play with. Clipps get youth and potential. Clippers would never...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Should have just stopped there. Trae has his issues and he can have some plays that are just plain head scratching, shooting ill-advised 3s early in the clock, sloppy passes, defense etc........but in that third quarter..... Hawks were down 4 when Trae exiting the game with 1 minute and 50 seconds to go. Hawks scored ZERO points and gave up 12 ballooning the lead to 16 points. That is where the game got out of control. That was because of Reddish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 4, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: That was because of Reddish The team losing ground big time when Trae has been out of the game has been a consistent theme going into its 4th year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, AHF said: The team losing ground big time when Trae has been out of the game has been a consistent theme going into its 4th year. I will stop trying to have an academic discussion about Trae here because it is fruitless. Just like it was impossible to talk ill of Lloyd Pierce at one point. Its almost like talking about Trump's problem to a trump supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: That was because of Reddish Lots of blame to go around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 4, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: I will stop trying to have an academic discussion about Trae here because it is fruitless. Just like it was impossible to talk ill of Lloyd Pierce at one point. Its almost like talking about Trump's problem to a trump supporter. Have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike your example, I am basing my statement on empirical data. When Trae goes out the game the team nose dives. True or false? 2020-21: Team net 7.5 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (4.6 worse without JC for context) 2019-20: Team net 7.9 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (3.7 worse without JC for context) Take the emotion out and let the data speak if you think there is bias here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, AHF said: Have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike your example, I am basing my statement on empirical data. When Trae goes out the game the team nose dives. True or false? 2020-21: Team net 7.5 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (4.6 worse without JC for context) 2019-20: Team net 7.9 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (3.7 worse without JC for context) Take the emotion out and let the data speak if you think there is bias here. Plus, why won’t Peo change his avatar? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, AHF said: Have no idea what you are talking about. Unlike your example, I am basing my statement on empirical data. When Trae goes out the game the team nose dives. True or false? 2020-21: Team net 7.5 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (4.6 worse without JC for context) 2019-20: Team net 7.9 points worse per 100 possessions without Trae (3.7 worse without JC for context) Take the emotion out and let the data speak if you think there is bias here. OK lets talk about who why this has been the case in the past. The biggest reason is the Hawks have never had an NBA quality back up point guard. But I digress, I rather talk about what Trae needs to improve upon rather than the 20 win teams of the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 4, 2021 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 21 hours ago, Spud2nique said: Plus, why won’t Peo change his avatar? Why won't you change your personality? It would be so much better around here it that happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Peoriabird said: The biggest reason is the Hawks have never had an NBA quality back up point guard. How rude! My namesake was pretty lethal on those oops to Nique and setting folks up. Just now, Peoriabird said: Why won't you change your personality? I would be so much better around here it that happened. I’ll try and work on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 4, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Peoriabird said: OK lets talk about who why this has been the case in the past. The biggest reason is the Hawks have never had an NBA quality back up point guard. But I digress, I rather talk about what Trae needs to improve upon rather than the 20 win teams of the past I’m telling you I expect the numbers will tell the same story this season similar to the numbers from last game when Trae was off the floor even though we have our best backup PGs in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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