Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 28, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 (No video, just a listen) Time stamps: Travis Schlenk Trae Young (6:24) Clint Capela (23:24) John Collins (30:02) De’Andre Hunter (40:10) Kevin Huerter (47:51) Onyeka Okongwu (56:47) Delon Wright (1:01:34) Bogdan Bogdanovic (1:09:27) Danilo Gallinari (1:16:58) Jalen Johnson (1:21:09) Skylar Mays (1:27:35) Sharife Cooper (1:33:07) Nate McMillan (1:37:34) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 5 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: (No video, just a listen) Time stamps: Travis Schlenk Trae Young (6:24) Clint Capela (23:24) John Collins (30:02) De’Andre Hunter (40:10) Kevin Huerter (47:51) Onyeka Okongwu (56:47) Delon Wright (1:01:34) Bogdan Bogdanovic (1:09:27) Danilo Gallinari (1:16:58) Jalen Johnson (1:21:09) Skylar Mays (1:27:35) Sharife Cooper (1:33:07) Nate McMillan (1:37:34) That was a long but very interesting listen. You can often tell a lot from their tone and words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted April 28, 2022 Report Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: (No video, just a listen) Time stamps: Travis Schlenk Trae Young (6:24) Clint Capela (23:24) John Collins (30:02) De’Andre Hunter (40:10) Kevin Huerter (47:51) Onyeka Okongwu (56:47) Delon Wright (1:01:34) Bogdan Bogdanovic (1:09:27) Danilo Gallinari (1:16:58) Jalen Johnson (1:21:09) Skylar Mays (1:27:35) Sharife Cooper (1:33:07) Nate McMillan (1:37:34) Interesting Dre comments right out of the gate about not having the ball in his hands much this year which limited his opportunities. You could here the unhappiness in his voice. It's almost like we heard that here from Campster. Edited April 28, 2022 by RandomFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 15, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 That leaves Trae, Hunter, JJ, Bogi and Gallo to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted May 15, 2022 Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 Probably the best pic to use for Coop and his season review. Really captures his time with the first team. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 16, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 Trae mentioned but i had forgotten. From 11/3-11/12 we played 6 games, 5 on the road, all losses. No excuses in the NBA but that was a brutal stretch. After this stretch we won 7 in a row and then struggled through december as injuries and covid started hitting. 6 games in 9 days on the road @ bkn utah @ phx @ gs @ utah @ denver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 16, 2022 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 16, 2022 Quote While he had a largely solid year defensively, after the Cam Reddish trade Hunter was tasked with a lot of difficult assignments, and it became clear that his shift to more minutes at the power forward position changed his defensive role within the team. While some of this can be matchup-dependent to counter teams that go small, there’s a clear split in his defensive responsibilities when playing a more perimeter-oriented 3 versus him at the 4. According to Basketball-Reference, Hunter was estimated to play at small forward 65% of the time and power forward 35% of the time. The coaching staff clearly wanted him to crowd the paint and stay at or below the level of screens and avoid switching as much as if he were playing on the perimeter. In other words, there was a clear pivot in his workload before and after the Reddish deal with the New York Knicks, and the burden of taking on the opposing team’s best player night in and night out took a major toll. This was compounded when either John Collins or Danilo Gallinari weren’t available at forward. But on the balance, Hunter played admiral defense — often against the opponent’s best perimeter player. Maybe a better defensive scheme would help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted May 17, 2022 Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: In other words, there was a clear pivot in his workload before and after the Reddish deal with the New York Knicks, and the burden of taking on the opposing team’s best player night in and night out took a major toll. This was compounded when either John Collins or Danilo Gallinari weren’t available at forward. Gee, it's too bad we didn't have a 1st round rookie power forward on the bench looking for minutes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted May 17, 2022 Author Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 17, 2022 Quote Statistically, the thing that best captures what he accomplished is how good he was while having to work so much more frequently this season in isolation possessions. As opposing defenses increasingly chose to run switch-based schemes against the Hawks, intending to keep him out of the middle of the floor, Young’s workload in isolation increased by a whopping 293%. Hawks head coach Nate McMillan consistently encouraged his team to locate and attack mismatches when they drew switches. Unsurprisingly the bulk of the workload fell to Young, easily Atlanta’s most dynamic offensive player and most reliable scorer. Only four players in the league registered more shot attempts working in isolation than did Young and just one of the four, Jayson Tatum, shot a lower percentage on these possessions. And still Young posted a .460/.382/.904 shooting line on ultra-high usage. He converted 37% on off-the-dribble shots from three-point range on a massive volume (525 attempts). Only Ja Morant generated more shot attempts and makes on drives. And Young did all of this while helping his team generate the lowest offensive turnover mark in the league. Further, all came after he signed a max extension. It was, by any measure, a wildly successful season for Atlanta’s superstar point guard. Quote Despite their elevated offensive success, the Hawks have some things to figure out heading into next season. Their work against defenses that chose to switch or otherwise be aggressive at the level of ball screens took a toll, much of it in the form of wearing down the diminutive Young. Atlanta posted the league’s 24th best offensive rating in the fourth quarter and the league’s 24th best net rating in the clutch. Young’s number in the fourth quarter and in the clutch were not what Atlanta needed. And that’s most likely related to a workload issue that needs to be solved. All of this is covers the part of the season that took place before the Hawks were eliminated by the Miami Heat in five games during the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs while Young often had two, if not three, defensive players allocated to him. His performance in the playoff series versus Miami (15.4 points, 6.0 assists) wasn’t in the same universe as what he showed during the team’s run to the Eastern Conference finals last season. The single clearest takeaway from this season for Atlanta is that Young needs help. It’s clear that he can lead them to consistently performing as a top-five offense in the league while owning a usage that rivals any other player in the league. But, to take the next step, the Hawks need a full-time secondary playmaker who also serves as a primary playmaker when Young is off the court 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Once again illustrating why Young haters/doubters are, at best, ignorant. Also, been saying it for years but get Young some help on offense and we'll see his defensive effort improve; this is just more evidence he's already more than overworked just trying to carry the team on the offensive end. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 18, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 10 hours ago, RandomFan said: Once again illustrating why Young haters/doubters are, at best, ignorant. Also, been saying it for years but get Young some help on offense and we'll see his defensive effort improve; this is just more evidence he's already more than overworked just trying to carry the team on the offensive end. Yeah it's a real shame that Trae gets little recognition for how extremely good he was this season. He'll continue to show them though. He's done nothing but improve and prove people wrong for 5 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JTB Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 On 5/17/2022 at 12:00 PM, JayBirdHawk said: Hopefully @Peoriabird reads this and gains an understanding that there’s not just defensive holes but offensive holes too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 20, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 17 hours ago, JTB said: Hopefully @Peoriabird reads this and gains an understanding that there’s not just defensive holes but offensive holes too . Defense creates offense too! The team can't be bottom 5 in forced turnovers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 58 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Defense creates offense too! The team can't be bottom 5 in forced turnovers Touché! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 20, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Peoriabird said: Defense creates offense too! The team can't be bottom 5 in forced turnovers Very true but the reverse is true as well. Defense is better after a made basket than when you miss and the other team is running their rebound back at you. There is a definite positive feedback cycle for success on both ends. We have work to do on both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 20, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 minute ago, AHF said: Very true but the reverse is true as well. Defense is better after a made basket than when you miss and the other team is running their rebound back at you. There is a definite positive feedback cycle for success on both ends. We have work to do on both of them. I think the immediate fix which can be improve through coaching defense i.e effort and scheme, defensive rebounding i.e. right personnel at all times and emphasizing it, and turnovers. Offense can be improved with ball movement i.e. working with the players this summer to emphasize ball movement over the ball pounding and isolation mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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