NBA execs diss Trae yet again

[kg01]

22 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

But @kg01 there are only eighty tw….

 

I see what you did there..  

 

STEWARDESSSSSSS.. the coffee ️!!!!

 

"Bro, didju see that DUNK by Jaaah tho?!?!  That's worth a win all by itSELF!  83-OHHHHH, Baybee!" - Eggsperts 

[kg01]

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

But imagine being a Nick fans and seeing your prize free agent barely clockin' in at 21 on lists like these and having the reaction be sorta like, "Meh that's about right."

[bleachkit]

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Damn, Dejonte didn't even crack the list.

[Gray Mule]

26 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Damn, Dejonte didn't even crack the list.

And we here on the Squawk have such high hopes for Murray.  Gee whiz, is he this bad?  We didn't know?  Can't crack the top 20 in the NBA?  Did Atlanta simply blow this trade deal?

I was so excited!  Now?  Bah!  Humbug!  

Edited September 20, 2022 by Gray Mule

[Final_quest]

56 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Damn, Dejonte didn't even crack the list.

He’s probably on the SG list.  

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, bleachkit said:

Damn, Dejonte didn't even crack the list.

Comical really....he's an Allstar

2 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

He’s probably on the SG list.  

Then why are both Kyrie and Ben Simmons on the list??

 

[JayBirdHawk]

Top 100 - 6 Hawks Players make the cut.

14

Trae YoungATLANTA HAWKS PG

After bursting onto the national stage with a brilliant 2021 playoff run, Young carried the momentum into last season, when he joined Tiny Archibald as the only players in NBA history to lead the league in total points and assists in the same season. The playmaking maestro was second only to Chris Paul in points per possession out of the pick-and-roll including assists, according to Synergy, and an underused aspect of his game may be unlocked this season with an All-Star guard next to him in Dejounte Murray. In limited attempts, Young was in the 98th percentile last season in catch-and-shoot situations, per Synergy, and he should get plenty more of those looks with Murray at his side. -- Colin Ward-Henninger 41 Dejounte MurrayATLANTA HAWKS PG The Spurs asked a lot of Murray last season, his first as an All-Star, and he delivered. His counting stats -- 21.1 points, 8.3 rebounds, 9.2 assists -- jump off the page, but it's more significant that his career-high usage rate (26.8 percent) was accompanied by elite defense and career-best efficiency (53.3 percent true shooting). Murray was already a confident midrange shooter, and he's getting more comfortable behind the 3-point line, making 34.5 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s. Not great, but encouraging. Of the many different things that will be asked of him in Atlanta, continued improvement on that front is most important. -- James Herbert 68 John CollinsATLANTA HAWKS PF Neither Collins nor the Hawks seem all that thrilled about him still being in Atlanta; he was frustrated with his role last season and was the subject of near-constant trade rumors this summer. How that situation, and the arrival of Dejounte Murray, which figures to limit his touches even further, affects Collins will be a major storyline for the Hawks this season. He'll never win awards for his defense, but at his best Collins is a high-level offensive threat who can finish lobs in the pick-and-roll and space the floor. Last season he was one of nine players to average at least 15 points and seven rebounds, while shooting 35 percent from 3-point land. -- Jack Maloney 78 De'Andre HunterATLANTA HAWKS SF The Hawks haven't committed to a Hunter extension because he hasn't proven he's a foundational player. He's been good. Year two, albeit in just 29 games, was his most promising as he grew as a self-creator and became a real weapon getting to his spot in the midrange, where he connected at a lights-out 54-percent clip, per Cleaning the Glass. That number fell off dramatically last season, but Hunter's 3-point mark did climb to 38 percent. With Trae Young and Dejounte Murray creating, Hunter's catch-and-shoot numbers this season will be pivotal to Atlanta's fortunes. -- Brad Botkin 91 Clint CapelaATLANTA HAWKS C The consummate shot-blocking, rim-running center, Capela has been vital to the Hawks' success on both ends of the floor. He's averaged a double-double in five straight seasons, and was fifth in the league in offensive rebounding last year to go along with his 1.3 blocks per game. His presence as a lob threat is crucial in pick-and-rolls with Trae Young, evidenced by the team's 117.5 offensive rating last season with both players on the court. -- Colin Ward-Henninger 94 Bogdan BogdanovicATLANTA HAWKS SG When Bogdanovic heats up, he can take over a game for stretches. He's proven to be a bit of overkill on what has been a wing-heavy Atlanta roster, but Kevin Huerter, a better player, had more trade value and thus was shipped out. Atlanta went hard after Bogdanovic and looked like it had a big-time guy, albeit in a small sample, two years ago. Last season Bogdanovic fell off across the board, but you'll certainly take 15 points a night on 37-percent 3-point shooting from a supplemental scorer. -- Brad Botkin

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, kg01 said:

"Bro, didju see that DUNK by Jaaah tho?!?!  That's worth a win all by itSELF!  83-OHHHHH, Baybee!" - Eggsperts 

I have some excellent advise for you. Although you’ve prolly been doing this since 2000 like me but..

BOYCOTT SPORTSCENTER

Ja gon’ be on nair tonit doh .. it’s like that one dude that was talkin at the bar..

How dey gon foget about Tmac like dat afta a decade- Big Stevie (shout out if you ever see this u funny bro) 2012 

I mean, I get it, you have you’re Tmac’s, your Iverson’s and Ja’s..

Then you have your Isiah Thomas’s, Stevie Nash’s and Trae Young’s.

Different strokes for different folks.  
 

 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Top 100 - 6 Hawks Players make the cut.

14

Trae YoungATLANTA HAWKS PG

After bursting onto the national stage with a brilliant 2021 playoff run, Young carried the momentum into last season, when he joined Tiny Archibald as the only players in NBA history to lead the league in total points and assists in the same season. The playmaking maestro was second only to Chris Paul in points per possession out of the pick-and-roll including assists, according to Synergy, and an underused aspect of his game may be unlocked this season with an All-Star guard next to him in Dejounte Murray. In limited attempts, Young was in the 98th percentile last season in catch-and-shoot situations, per Synergy, and he should get plenty more of those looks with Murray at his side. -- Colin Ward-Henninger 41 Dejounte MurrayATLANTA HAWKS PG The Spurs asked a lot of Murray last season, his first as an All-Star, and he delivered. His counting stats -- 21.1 points, 8.3 rebounds, 9.2 assists -- jump off the page, but it's more significant that his career-high usage rate (26.8 percent) was accompanied by elite defense and career-best efficiency (53.3 percent true shooting). Murray was already a confident midrange shooter, and he's getting more comfortable behind the 3-point line, making 34.5 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s. Not great, but encouraging. Of the many different things that will be asked of him in Atlanta, continued improvement on that front is most important. -- James Herbert 68 John CollinsATLANTA HAWKS PF Neither Collins nor the Hawks seem all that thrilled about him still being in Atlanta; he was frustrated with his role last season and was the subject of near-constant trade rumors this summer. How that situation, and the arrival of Dejounte Murray, which figures to limit his touches even further, affects Collins will be a major storyline for the Hawks this season. He'll never win awards for his defense, but at his best Collins is a high-level offensive threat who can finish lobs in the pick-and-roll and space the floor. Last season he was one of nine players to average at least 15 points and seven rebounds, while shooting 35 percent from 3-point land. -- Jack Maloney 78 De'Andre HunterATLANTA HAWKS SF The Hawks haven't committed to a Hunter extension because he hasn't proven he's a foundational player. He's been good. Year two, albeit in just 29 games, was his most promising as he grew as a self-creator and became a real weapon getting to his spot in the midrange, where he connected at a lights-out 54-percent clip, per Cleaning the Glass. That number fell off dramatically last season, but Hunter's 3-point mark did climb to 38 percent. With Trae Young and Dejounte Murray creating, Hunter's catch-and-shoot numbers this season will be pivotal to Atlanta's fortunes. -- Brad Botkin 91 Clint CapelaATLANTA HAWKS C The consummate shot-blocking, rim-running center, Capela has been vital to the Hawks' success on both ends of the floor. He's averaged a double-double in five straight seasons, and was fifth in the league in offensive rebounding last year to go along with his 1.3 blocks per game. His presence as a lob threat is crucial in pick-and-rolls with Trae Young, evidenced by the team's 117.5 offensive rating last season with both players on the court. -- Colin Ward-Henninger 94 Bogdan BogdanovicATLANTA HAWKS SG When Bogdanovic heats up, he can take over a game for stretches. He's proven to be a bit of overkill on what has been a wing-heavy Atlanta roster, but Kevin Huerter, a better player, had more trade value and thus was shipped out. Atlanta went hard after Bogdanovic and looked like it had a big-time guy, albeit in a small sample, two years ago. Last season Bogdanovic fell off across the board, but you'll certainly take 15 points a night on 37-percent 3-point shooting from a supplemental scorer. -- Brad Botkin

Wow. If it was fair it would be 3.3 (average) players to each NBA team and we got 6! Almost doubled the average!

(Apologies to the Magic, Pistons, Blazers I’m guessing) lol.

[Final_quest]

2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Comical really....he's an Allstar

Then why are both Kyrie and Ben Simmons on the list??

 

I've found the list makers to be pretty inconsistent with what position they place certain players.  In fairness to them there are a number of tweeners in the league.  

[Final_quest]

4 hours ago, kg01 said:

"Bro, didju see that DUNK by Jaaah tho?!?!  That's worth a win all by itSELF!  83-OHHHHH, Baybee!" - Eggsperts 

I love seeing a new version of this post every time Ja's name is mentioned.  It reminds me of Woj on 2018 draft night:

[JayBirdHawk]

 

Only 8 outlets reporting (and ESPN is incomplete), but players sorted by the average of preseason player rankings...per @AndrewDBailey

1. Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo

3. Joel Embiid

4. Luka Doncic

5. Stephen Curry

6. Kevin Durant

7. Jayson Tatum

8. Jimmy Butler, LeBron James

10. Trae Young

11. Ja Morant

12. Devin Booker

13. James Harden

14. Rudy Gobert

15. Kawhi Leonard

16. Karl-Anthony Towns

17. Anthony Davis

18. Chris Paul

19. Donovan Mitchell

20. Paul George

21. Bam Adebayo

22. Kyrie Irving

23. Jrue Holiday

24. Jaylen Brown

25. Damain Lillard

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Diesel]

13 hours ago, AUhawksfan said:

Jamal Murray. 

Yeah... It was a joke...

Dude hasn't played since when? 2020?

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

Yeah... It was a joke...

Dude hasn't played since when? 2020?

He was a savant in the bubble 🫧 tho 

FYI I kinda just wanted to say savant 

[Final_quest]

9 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

How is that hard to build around?  He made Alex Len a top lob threat during his rookie year.  Alex Len.  

Didn't the numbers on Capela show him being one of the worst in the league converting bunnies?  If Trae ever plays with a HOF level roll partner...  

[kg01]

1 hour ago, Final_quest said:

How is that hard to build around?  He made Alex Len a top lob threat during his rookie year.  Alex Len.  

Didn't the numbers on Capela show him being one of the worst in the league converting bunnies?  If Trae ever plays with a HOF level roll partner...  

The cutest part of all the anti-Trae stuff is how people talk around the absolutely atrocious defense played by all the guys the eggsperts rate ahead of him.

BuT DUh DeFEncE tHo.....

[Spud2nique]

Huh? Wait last year he was 17 overall? This year 16? You are telling me there are 16 players in the league better than Trae?

No way.

 

[Diesel]

Let me see... 

Giannis, KD, Curry, Lebron, Jokic, Embiid

 

These are the only players that I would say are head and shoulders better than Trae. 

Tatum to me is sometimey.  Switch the positions and Tatum wouldn't be much more than Hunter. 

Butler to me is plays well and is consistent but his mentality tends to turn off his own teammates sometimes.  Plus, he can't hit threes consistently. 

Yall know how I feel about Ja.

Luka is probably on the same level.  He gets a pass because of rebounds. 

 

[shakes]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

Let me see... 

 

Tatum to me is sometimey.  Switch the positions and Tatum wouldn't be much more than Hunter.