The Official NBASupes, Sothron, and theCampster Insider Thread - NBA 2022-23 Season

[JTB]

1 hour ago, GameTime said:

Another Bleacher Report banger. Trae to LA in the offseason?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10062655-2023-nba-trade-watch-best-available-guards-and-their-top-landing-spots

They get on my damn nerves.

[macdaddy]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Smart alec!!! Hey I been thinking about your avatar Falcons loss change. Here is a candidate. Whatcha think?

Oh no. 

[REHawksFan]

On 1/25/2023 at 9:34 PM, JTB said:

They get on my damn nerves.

So Trae doesn't want out and the Hawks don't want to trade him.......BUT keep an eye on the Lakers to over the summer.  Lemme guess.....they'd be willing to trade westbrook straight up for Trae.  Maybe the Hawks through in a 2nd or something?  

So sick of half-assed journalists using the Hawks as feeder program for other franchises. 

[georgia]

Athletic is reporting Houston interest in collins with a 3 way deal with Phoenix.     Hawks get crowder- saric- shamet and picks

[macdaddy]

19 minutes ago, georgia said:

Athletic is reporting Houston interest in collins with a 3 way deal with Phoenix.     Hawks get crowder- saric- shamet and picks

How's Houston involved?   I don't like it.  Crowder and Saric are on the decline.   

[BangHolman]

24 minutes ago, georgia said:

Athletic is reporting Houston interest in collins with a 3 way deal with Phoenix.     Hawks get crowder- saric- shamet and picks

Smells like trash to me

[Spud2nique]

29 minutes ago, georgia said:

Athletic is reporting Houston interest in collins with a 3 way deal with Phoenix.     Hawks get crowder- saric- shamet and picks

Here we go baby! Crowder!

[JayBirdHawk]

Here's the info^

The Atlanta Hawks have been shopping forward John Collins for a while — per our Shams Charania — and have been gauging interest around the league in potential packages for the 25-year-old, conversations that have included the Houston Rockets, league sources told The Athletic, which was later confirmed by team sources. The sources were granted anonymity to speak freely on the matter. There has been nothing concrete from the Rockets — merely ideas floated by the Hawks to Houston among other teams — but the interest isThree years ago prior to Houston trading Clint Capela in what turned out to be a blockbuster deal involving four teams, The Athletic reported of the Rockets’ request for Collins, then 23, in exchange for Capela’s services.

Taking a few things into account — the Suns’ desire to move Jae Crowder, Houston’s with Gordon and the Hawks with Collins, there’s a three-team framework that could work for all parties.

 

• Collins’ desire for a change in environment, his unhappiness with his situation in Atlanta and his want to be somewhere he is respected is understandable. And there’s no denying Collins would make the Rockets a better team, especially on the defensive end. Collins has been a positive defender for the Hawks in every season he’s been with them, with this season’s impact — a plus-5.6 point defensive differential — among the 88th percentile of players, per Cleaning the Glass. Collins would also be a welcome addition to a youthful locker room in need of a veteran voice.

 

• But the issue of a Collins trade, as the Rockets and other teams with interest are currently internally evaluating, is the fit — and all its accompanying factors. For starters, the forward is in the second year of a 5-year, $125 million contract signed in 2021. Bringing Collins on Houston’s books would eat significantly into their future cap space, one of the more positive things the front office is looking forward to this summer. The Rockets would have to juxtapose Collins and his opportunity cost, meaning they would need to determine if they would rather have Collins now or preserve maximum cap space for what figures to be a busy summer in free agency. There ialso the question of positional fit. 

[Spud2nique]

10 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Crowder and Saric are on the decline.   

I don’t know man, Crowder is different. Saric I agree, don’t love him at all.

[macdaddy]

I like Crowder as a short term backup to JC, not a replacement.  

My fear at this point with Crowder is we'll get him and he'll play 10 minutes and go to the bench like this:

[BangHolman]

If we're trading with the Suns, I'd rather go bigger and throw in Cap to bring back Ayton too.

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I like Crowder as a short term backup to JC, not a replacement.  

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I like Crowder as a short term backup to JC, not a replacement.  

My fear at this point with Crowder is we'll get him and he'll play 10 minutes and go to the bench like this:

Nah, my boi bringin Heat if he comes. Him and DM, ain’t enough mustard in Atlanta to cover these kids!

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Nah, my boi bringin Heat if he comes. Him and DM, ain’t enough mustard in Atlanta to cover these kids!

[kg01]

Crowder gonna be out Haslem ... would yall trade Collins for Haslem?

Egggssssacctlyyyyyy ..... 

[REHawksFan]

49 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Here's the info^

The Atlanta Hawks have been shopping forward John Collins for a while — per our Shams Charania — and have been gauging interest around the league in potential packages for the 25-year-old, conversations that have included the Houston Rockets, league sources told The Athletic, which was later confirmed by team sources. The sources were granted anonymity to speak freely on the matter. There has been nothing concrete from the Rockets — merely ideas floated by the Hawks to Houston among other teams — but the interest isThree years ago prior to Houston trading Clint Capela in what turned out to be a blockbuster deal involving four teams, The Athletic reported of the Rockets’ request for Collins, then 23, in exchange for Capela’s services.

Taking a few things into account — the Suns’ desire to move Jae Crowder, Houston’s with Gordon and the Hawks with Collins, there’s a three-team framework that could work for all parties.

 

• Collins’ desire for a change in environment, his unhappiness with his situation in Atlanta and his want to be somewhere he is respected is understandable. And there’s no denying Collins would make the Rockets a better team, especially on the defensive end. Collins has been a positive defender for the Hawks in every season he’s been with them, with this season’s impact — a plus-5.6 point defensive differential — among the 88th percentile of players, per Cleaning the Glass. Collins would also be a welcome addition to a youthful locker room in need of a veteran voice.

 

• But the issue of a Collins trade, as the Rockets and other teams with interest are currently internally evaluating, is the fit — and all its accompanying factors. For starters, the forward is in the second year of a 5-year, $125 million contract signed in 2021. Bringing Collins on Houston’s books would eat significantly into their future cap space, one of the more positive things the front office is looking forward to this summer. The Rockets would have to juxtapose Collins and his opportunity cost, meaning they would need to determine if they would rather have Collins now or preserve maximum cap space for what figures to be a busy summer in free agency. There ialso the question of positional fit. 

It's a little misleading to say the Athletic "is reporting" the 3 team deal with Phx and Houston.  All they are doing is reporting Houston's interest in JC and create a trade "that could work for all 3 teams."   

This ultimately amounts to the Houston beat reporter for the Athletic throwing out a potential trade that he thinks would work which is substantially different than him reporting these 3 teams are talking about this deal. 

[macdaddy]

8 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Crowder gonna be out Haslem ... would yall trade Collins for Haslem?

Egggssssacctlyyyyyy ..... 

No way.  No one in the league has ever pulled off the grift that Haslem has been doing.  Guy's appeared in about 50 games in the last 7 years!?#.  

[NBASupes]

58 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Here's the info^

The Atlanta Hawks have been shopping forward John Collins for a while — per our Shams Charania — and have been gauging interest around the league in potential packages for the 25-year-old, conversations that have included the Houston Rockets, league sources told The Athletic, which was later confirmed by team sources. The sources were granted anonymity to speak freely on the matter. There has been nothing concrete from the Rockets — merely ideas floated by the Hawks to Houston among other teams — but the interest isThree years ago prior to Houston trading Clint Capela in what turned out to be a blockbuster deal involving four teams, The Athletic reported of the Rockets’ request for Collins, then 23, in exchange for Capela’s services.

Taking a few things into account — the Suns’ desire to move Jae Crowder, Houston’s with Gordon and the Hawks with Collins, there’s a three-team framework that could work for all parties.

 

• Collins’ desire for a change in environment, his unhappiness with his situation in Atlanta and his want to be somewhere he is respected is understandable. And there’s no denying Collins would make the Rockets a better team, especially on the defensive end. Collins has been a positive defender for the Hawks in every season he’s been with them, with this season’s impact — a plus-5.6 point defensive differential — among the 88th percentile of players, per Cleaning the Glass. Collins would also be a welcome addition to a youthful locker room in need of a veteran voice.

 

• But the issue of a Collins trade, as the Rockets and other teams with interest are currently internally evaluating, is the fit — and all its accompanying factors. For starters, the forward is in the second year of a 5-year, $125 million contract signed in 2021. Bringing Collins on Houston’s books would eat significantly into their future cap space, one of the more positive things the front office is looking forward to this summer. The Rockets would have to juxtapose Collins and his opportunity cost, meaning they would need to determine if they would rather have Collins now or preserve maximum cap space for what figures to be a busy summer in free agency. There ialso the question of positional fit. 

At the end of the day, James Harden is who they are targeting this summer. Honestly, Atlanta could wait to move JC.

[BangHolman]

It makes more sense to ride the season out with the current roster unless something significant comes a long imo

[kg01]

33 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

It's a little misleading to say the Athletic "is reporting" the 3 team deal with Phx and Houston.  All they are doing is reporting Houston's interest in JC and create a trade "that could work for all 3 teams."   

This ultimately amounts to the Houston beat reporter for the Athletic throwing out a potential trade that he thinks would work which is substantially different than him reporting these 3 teams are talking about this deal. 

Shhhhhhh... speaking of gifts, the whole of nba media is a grift nowadays.  Twist a rumor so many times that, by the time you're done, you got a click-worthy (non)story nba fans eat up.  Smh